[ 05-16-2013, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: fourwinds ]
Posted by koo (Member # 30462) on :
Are you treating right now for Lyme? It is possible you are detoxing through your skin....I do something similar although yours looks a little "angrier". I recently started getting it on my back as well.
This only happens with azithromycin for whatever reason. I started applying tea tree oil with a cotton ball which has helped.
Posted by fourwinds (Member # 14114) on :
Yes, I am treating. I am on Mepron, Azith, Bactrim, and Tindamax as well as some herbals.
Do you see the little white "things", they look like tails....
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
Ummm shingles maybe??
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
If they have a "tail" they are most likely parasites. Morgellons is just a name someone made up. Most people with this pseudonyme have been dx with Lyme disease.
It can be the co-infection of Filarial Worms which have been found in many ticks. Your LLMD should consider treating you with antiparasitics.
Gael
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I agree with Gael.
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
Maybe try a salt bath. Buy the fish salt by the 5gal bucket and soak for a while.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
I would not do a salt bath right now, although down the road it could be a good idea. Just concerned that if you attack the parasites with salt in a bath, it could cause a big herx. Good suggestion though Lymedin.
Gael
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
I would try an anti-parasite protocol. It can take time but it may help. Hope it works!
Posted by lymeboy (Member # 24769) on :
this could very well be Morgellons. if you have fibrous discharge, you could have that/ Look into it. It is very overlooked.
Posted by payne (Member # 26248) on :
so, antibiotics don't do anything to parasites ? Bicillin + Amoxicillin..
Posted by fourwinds (Member # 14114) on :
thank you everyone... I've been hesitant to try most of the anti-parasitic herb combinations as
many have black walnut hull in them (and I am allergic to black walnuts Perhaps garlic, Olive leaf, GSE.... pumpkin seeds???
I haven't had any fiberous discharges from these just burning pain and itching... they felt like blisters.
Definitely will bring up to my LLMD again...
The big welts are where the "tails" could be seen clearly, I guess they were trying to get out? Creeps me out... Posted by baileypup (Member # 22824) on :
It also could be an allergic reaction or hives, especially with the burning and itching.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by payne: so, antibiotics don't do anything to parasites ? Bicillin + Amoxicillin.. [/QB]
Nope.. sad to say!
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by baileypup: [QB] It also could be an allergic reaction or hives, especially with the burning and itching.
- look again at the picture.. see the white tails??
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
What does your doc say??
Posted by sammy (Member # 13952) on :
Fungal infections can cause a similar looking rash.
Your picture is fuzzy/blurred on my screen because it is so big so I may not see some of the distinctive details. I can't really see the "tail" things.
If the rash itches and burns you could try cleaning it with hydrogen peroxide. This seems to calm and help dry out itchy fungal rashes. Then apply some OTC clotrimazole cream. Try this twice a day and you should start to see some improvements in a couple days.
If the infection is bad it can take a couple weeks to clear the fungal infection even with twice daily treatments. If it gets better but doesn't go away after 2 wks your doctor may need to give you a different RX treatment.
I know you don't know what is causing the rash. That's why I thought it might be worth a try to go ahead and treat it as if it were a fungal rash. It may help.
I'm sorry that you have been suffering and your doctor doesn't know what is causing your symptoms. Hang in there. Know that we are here for you.
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
how about calamine lotion??
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
"so, antibiotics don't do anything to parasites ? Bicillin + Amoxicillin.."
So I've asked this question before and have not quite gotten an answer. Most of us are familiar with Wild Condor's story. She was bitten multiple times and hundreds of times as she described it.
If there is anyone who should have had parasites, then I think it should have been her? Her chances were many fold.
I don't think she ever treated for parasites and only followed Dr B protocols along with Hyperbaric Chamber dives.
Maybe ABX in higher doses does kill parasites? She had been given higher doses than most of us.
How else can you explain her success?
Posted by Caren NV (Member # 37791) on :
I used to get a rash that looked just like that - minus the white tails, when my chest was overexposed to the sun. Itchy and burning- horrific! Started on Cape Cod in the early 70's. Makes me wonder...
Sorry for your distress Gael.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Doxy is reported to kill baby Filarial worms. The combo of Ivermectin and doxy has been successful for some people in treating parasites.
Wild Condor may have taken some ateminisin wormwood, or perhaps other antiparasitics such as Flagyl. Perhaps the higher doses of abx kill the parasites, in combo with the hyperbaric chamber dives.
OR, maybe they were just sent into a hibernation of sorts. I walked around with parasites for years as do many people without being sick.
We can speculate till the cows come home, but from personal experience, I would be dead if I didn't go after parasites. So my vote goes to antiparasitics. BTW, some parasites carry a bacteria called Wolbachia.
I think the combo of antiparasitics, antifungals and antibiotics for Lyme could be very effective.
Gael
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
That picture resembles some I saw of Eosinophilic folliculitis.
Scroll down to "Rosacea and Seabuckthorn." One eyedoctor who treated patients for Blepheritis caused by Demodex applied Seabuckthorn oil (thinned with a carrier oil) to the base of the eyelashes, with good results.
The "tail" that you see might be a cylindrical cuff of dandruff, common in pores that have Demodex. The Demodex live head down in the pores, sometimes with the tail sticking out, but they are so tiny that I don't think you'd be able to actually see the tails unless you used a strong magnifier.
I hesitate to post pics of the Demodex mites in hair follicles, because of the ick factor. But here are some links:
If you have Lyme, you could very likely also have autoimmune problems, which can cause folliculitis. It would be easy enough to try treating the area with Seabuckthorn oil, which is supposed to kill the mites in the follicles.
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
I've wondered about the mites possibly transmitting Lyme and Coes.
I saw pictures of hair mites years ago and had contemplated the possibility of family transmissions by them, other than contact, fluid, and mosquito transmissions.
I can see them easily being passed on combs and brushes, as well as when pillows and blankets are shared.
Now I have a name, Demodex Mires, thank you.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Mites, are pictured on www.lymephotos.com I have also seen them when I had a mass exodus of parasites and also coming from my scalp.
Ticks are probably carrying them along with the rest of the sewer they spit into us. Can also be transmitted by combs and brushes as lymedin suggested.
Be careful trying on hats in department stores. So disgusting!
Gael
Posted by n.northernlights (Member # 17934) on :
the tail things are artefacts caused by movement of the camera. (all of them look the same, because the camera has been moved because of slow shutter speed)
Posted by MichaelTampa (Member # 24868) on :
They don't look all the same to me. I first thought they were specs on the camera. But sounds like fourwinds is saying she can literally see these without help of the camera, and the camera happened to capture some for us to see.
When I've done parasite treatments, I've frequently had sores/holes/bumps where I am convinced the parasites exited the body. Many others have reported this as well. I have to believe this is parasites you are seeing.
Posted by fourwinds (Member # 14114) on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MichaelTampa: [QB]. But sounds like fourwinds is saying she can literally see these without help of the camera, and the camera happened to capture some for us to see.
I didn't visually notice these on my skin... just the red eruptions. I actually didn't notice the
"tails" on the photo right away... until I got to looking at it closer.
"I personally do not believe they are artefacts left by the movement of the camera", because if
you hit the "Control" and "+" key on your
computer and continue to enlarge the photo you can see many of these same white tails UNDER my
skin (right side of pic). It seems somehow the flash on the camera made these show..
At first I thought perhaps it was yeast... I have had all sorts of weird skin "things", like my
thumb tip and knuckles splitting open. Spots on my temple that look like I've burned myself with a curling iron...
Most of the time I've just written these off as part of the process... but I AM concerned about
parasites. I have no experience treating or knowing what to expect re parasites other than reading here and researching and I do appreciate everyone's thoughts and input! Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
fourwinds,
The weird skin things like your thumb tips and knuckles splitting open is a sure sign of parasites.
BTW, Humaworm will custom make your herbs and leave out the black walnut hull if your concerned. PLEASE really INSIST to your doctor to treat you for parasites.
Gael
Posted by fourwinds (Member # 14114) on :
thank you gael.... any other input ; (i.e. what's it like to treat parasites while on ABX? ) would be greatly appreciated!
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
I just answered your pm. I didn't treat parasites while on abx, but others here have with no problem. I really hope your doctor addresses this, because I think you need a professional to help you.
Gael
Posted by Maryinvt2 (Member # 37822) on :
I can see the squiggles and it does look like parasites on my screen. I believe there are creams to kill parasites but it takes a few weeks for them to be gone. Good luck.
Posted by cozynana (Member # 34270) on :
Gael, I am going on Allinia next week. Do you have any experience with this, if so, did it help get rid of parasites. Does a person herx with anti-parasite meds?
Posted by IckyTicky (Member # 21466) on :
I do think the white squiggles are caused by the camera. First, because they are all curved the same way..but if you look at the bottom left of the picture, you will see a VERY long one that can not possibly be parasite related. If you can't see this with the naked eye, I think it's the camera.
Posted by IckyTicky (Member # 21466) on :
That said..I get those same bumps on my chest :/
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
I do not have any experience with alinia, but from what I have read about others doing antiparasitic pharma drugs, they do an extended regime of alinia plus other antiparasitics that Dr. K. suggests.
I do know that whether pharma or herbs, it takes more that one mos of treatment and it has to be ongoing until symptoms free, and then maintenance.
Suggest you read all you can about parasites. Curezone has a good parasite forum. Some people here go on antiparasitic herbs and salt/c after pharma drugs.
Gael
Posted by fourwinds (Member # 14114) on :
I have had these "things" go up and down throughout the past year since posting this..
This past week they were at it again, but not this severe.
In contacting my LLNP in D.C. she is now telling me (after consulting with her colleagues) they believe this is Morgellon's.
I don't have fibers... and believe they are parasites...or as glm111 mentioned filarial worms...
I finally got her to notice. I showed her these in my 1st appt. with her a year ago!! I also had mentioned anti-parasitic drugs after posting this here a year ago.... but I felt it was somewhat dismissed.
I have an in-person appt. in a month... at which time she said we will discuss adding an antihelminthic
Can I take something like Humaworm or Parastroy while on ABX?
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
Is it me, or do I see little white & curled strings on that picture?
Reminds me of the worms coming out of this guys face.
I too don't think they are due to the camera, since you can see the squiggly bumps right under your skin, in a similar but different "s" shape.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Morgellons is just a name that has been given by a lay person describing the so called fibers. The pictures of the fibers I have seen posted on the "Morgellons" boards look just like what's in www.lymephotos.com Clearly they are parasites.
It is beyond me why these practioners just don't "get" that Lyme disease has a VERY heavy parasitic componenet to it and needs to be treated aggressively.
If you are near Philly, there is a Dr. K. practioner who does ART and has treated TammyN here for parasites. You might want to pm her to get a name.
I think there are folks here that have used parastroy or Humaworm while on abx. Maybe put that out as a new post.
Gael
Posted by aiden424 (Member # 7633) on :
It looks like in grown hair. If you google it some of the pictures look like yours.
Kathy
Posted by fourwinds (Member # 14114) on :
Thanks, Kathy.. but these are not ingrown hairs, LOL..
if you hold down the Control key and then press the "+" key it will enlarge this photo each time you hit the key and you can see these in my skin throughout the whole chest area, not just the most obvious ones, but "whippets" all over the place...
To get your screen back you then hit Control and the "-" key.... Posted by Pocono Lyme (Member # 5939) on :
I've had a rash like that on my chest and a little on my back.
I had no idea what caused it. I thought maybe I was allergic to something that touched those areas but ruled that out when it just didn't go away through process of elimination.
Surprisingly, it went away after going on Armour Thyroid and Hydrocortisone.
It stayed gone for a couple of months and then I got a mild case again. My thyroid med was increased and it hasn't been back since.
I then looked up thyroid/adrenal connection to chest rash and did find it somewhere. Sounds like a strange connection but it looked just like yours and is now gone.
Posted by gigimac (Member # 33353) on :
Have you tried pulling one out with tweezers? They look like little worms to me.
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Perhaps garlic, Olive leaf, GSE.... pumpkin seeds???![[Smile]](smile.gif)