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Posted by Shay (Member # 32941) on :
 
My 21 year old son has been sick with Lyme for almost 2 years now. My 23 year old son came home from hiking in northern Michigan and had taken a picture of a round rash on his foot. He was hiking on Manitou Island where 200 ticks were collected and 100 of them tested positive for Lyme.

I am now trying to get a Dr. to prescribe him 6 weeks of Doxy but his dr. would only run the blood test and I'm not even sure he uses IgenX. Any suggestions on how I can get him on Doxy just to be on the safe side.

Thanks.
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
He can go to walk-in clinics and tell them about the rash and show them the picture. Each of them will likely give him 2 weeks of doxy.

My husband's dermatologist gives 2 weeks of doxy if he goes there with a tick rash.

If he goes to enough walk-in clinics (like 3 of them) he can get 6 weeks. He has to not mention that he already got doxy from previous clinics. I would go to all 3 within the next few days. He can fill the first prescription and hold the rest until needed.

However, if he has lyme, the 6 weeks of doxy will generally not be enough to cure him.

Just know that a number of strains of lyme disease make a rash only and never go on to produce disseminated disease. That is from the book "Cure Unknown." Find it on page 344. (Book is available at the library.)

So, just because he got a rash doesn't mean that he needs any treatment. The problem is, if you just wait around and he gets lyme symptoms, you have lost the opportunity to get a jump on the disease.

So, if he happens to develop any symptoms, then start calling for a lyme doctor appointment.

Generally, a non-lyme doctor is not going to send blood to Igenex. It is going to be Quest or LabCorp.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Diagnosing Lyme Disease (&/or whatever else is going on)

Other tick-borne infections and other chronic stealth infections - as well as certain conditions - that can hold us back are discussed here.

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(What ILADS is) . . . WHY you need an ILADS-educated, Lyme Literate Doctor - starting with assessment / evaluation.

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Doxycyline (or many other antibiotics) can cause lyme to go into the "cyst" form within 20 minutes of taking the first dose.

Antibiotics are not effective against this form of lyme and it can go into "hiding" and come back later as chronic lyme, harder to treat.

For that reason, many LLMDs also use what is called a "cyst-buster" Rx such as Flagyl:

Re: Flagyl / Tinidazole

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753890

Infect Drug Resist. 2011;4:97-113. Epub 2011 May 3.

Evaluation of in-vitro antibiotic susceptibility of different morphological forms of Borrelia burgdorferi.

Excerpt:

. . . Conclusion

Antibiotics have varying effects on the different morphological forms of B. burgdorferi.

Persistence of viable organisms in round body forms and biofilm-like colonies may explain treatment failure and persistent symptoms following antibiotic therapy of Lyme disease.

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Liver support & Adrenal support is also very important before and all during treatment. Most LLMDs are well aware of those methods.
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Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
 
What's the daily dosage for 6 weeks of doxycycline?
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Judie:

First, extreme avoidance of the sun is required when taking doxycline. Just be aware of that.

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Table of Contents: Page 3

Treatment guidelines start at Page 12.

Be sure to see top of Page 13: Cystic Form.

Doxy detailed on Page 14, Paragraph 1:


http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

�� Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease ��

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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http://www.ilads.org/files/burrascano_0905.pdf

Go to page 13, the last paragraph.

Bacteriostatic vs. Bacteriocidal consideration

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Judie: I see from a previous post of yours that you are treating with a ID doctor. So, you may not be able to get combinations until you find a LLMD.

In the meantime, you might add Allicin, Olive Leaf Extract, Berberine or certain other specific supplements. More detail here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor)
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