My LLMD just put me on mino, two 100 mg tablets per day. The instructions on the bottle say to take on an empty stomach yet I thought he told me at my appointment to take with food (can't call today as the office is closed). I've been on doxy before and was always told to take with food. Does it matter and does this have to taken at evenly spaced intervals (every 12 hours)? Do I have to take this away from my magnesium supplements like doxy as well? Thanks!
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
WITH .. if you value your stomach.
Yes, I would say away from mag.
I took my meds at breakfast and supper.
PS .. expect it to cause dizziness.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- To help reduce the likelihood of dizziness / vertigo & nausea from an irritated inner ear system,
LIVER SUPPORT & B-6 are vital.
It's explained here as to why that happens but basically, many medicines are toxic to the ears. Still, the infection is so toxic and damaging that - if the treatment is balanced with good support measures - some of the ototoxic effects can be minimized.
See the specific articles here about minocycline so that you might be prepared: ---------------------------------
LIVER SUPPORT LINKS & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too. -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Do not take liver support - or Ginger Capsules - at the same time as Rx.
Generally, keep separate by a couple hours both directions of the clock:
Rx
Nutritional Supplements (whether vitamins & minerals, or herbal)
Probiotics -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Stomach help:
Chewable DGL (Fructose Free), Slippery Elm bark, Marshmallow Root. Often there are supplements that contain all but the DGL has to be chewed to work in the stomach.
Just Google for that term, is a form of licorice.
A gluten-free diet and one that is diary-free is also very helpful for many, to at least try for month. -
Posted by sleeping dog (Member # 27267) on :
call your pharmacist
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- GINGER ----------
From: The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tillotson, et.al.)
WHAT IT DOES: Ginger root is pungent in taste, and warming, and mildly tonic in action. It improves digestion, reduces nausea and mucus, settles the stomach, and reduces inflammation.
SAFETY ISSUES: Ginger may increase absorption of pharmceuticals, and may irritate the stomach in sensitive individuals or those with severe acid reflux problems.
STARTING DOSAGE:
� Dried powder: 500-1500 mg one to three times per day
� Tea: drink freely . . .
� Because of its digestive and anti-nausea actions, ginger can be used to treat dyspepsia, nausea and vomiting associated with pregnancy, vertigo, dizziness and motion sickness (Schmid et al., 1994; Visalyaputra et al., 1998).
. . . .
Ginger acts as a digestive aid as well as a peripheral blood circulation stimulant, so it is useful for increasing poor circulation. Its pungent essential oils aid digestion by stimulating the activity of digestive enzymes (Platel K et al., 1998).
However, despite its hot spicy taste, ginger inhibits the synthesis of the �bad-guy� inflammatory chemicals, prostaglandin and thromboxane (Kiuchi et al., 1992).
TCM doctors tell us that fresh ginger is better than dry ginger for easing nausea, mucus, indigestion and stomach pain, and for stopping diarrhea caused by poor digestion. Conversely, they tell us dry ginger is better for warming the body.
The anti-inflammatory actions of ginger, noted centuries ago by TAM doctors, are strong enough to reduce muscular discomfort and pain in osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis (Srivastava et al., 1992). . . .
HOMEOPATHIC remedies (pellets under the tongue) are also helpful. Nux-vomica never worked so well for me, but others say it helps them. Tabucum and Cocculus, together, have kept my stomach contents from showering air travelers - and it can have an immediate effect. Boiron is the brand I used but there are a couple other good brands.
Nux-vomica
Tabacum 30 c
Cocculus Indicus 30 c
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Acupuncture can help - but also having an acupuncturist teach you how to do it yourself as needed - and also teaching you acupressure on the wrist points. It was never enough for me, though - not by a long shot.
When I fly, I take both Ginger Capsules for prevention and then, if there is a disturbance of my inner universe, the homeopathics as needed.
As for taking Ginger bedides to help when flying, it also helps reduce nausea and also is wonderful for a pain reducer and anti-inflammatory agent for all times. It may also help lessen herx effects. -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- I just went through that Tinnitus thread and can't find the posts I thought I put there about
B-6 & Milk Thistle to help with Mino.
You can go ahead and look at PubMed - but I'll try to check back later and post that.
When my Mac failed last year, a lot of my post files got stuck over in that machine.
I know that information is in some past threads regarding Minocycline. You can search for those here:
LymeNet Archives -
Posted by Polkahero (Member # 37841) on :
Thanks for the tips, I guess I'll plan on taking the mino at breakfast and dinner then. However, I take supplements with all meals, should I concentrate these all during lunch then? I take so many supplements, can't see taking all of these at one time! Is it that important to avoid taking supplements away from abx?
I already have tinnitus from Lyme. . .
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- You can take supplements with your snacks mid-morning and mid-afternoon - and perhaps a light snack late evening.
Snacks should include at least one veggie, maybe a few nuts to get protein and fat . . . Avocados make good snacks.
B-vitamins should be with a good bit of food to prevent nausea (as the B-3/niacin can do). -
Posted by tory2457 (Member # 10384) on :
Hi Polkahero:
When I was on Mino my LLMD always told me to take Vitamin C due to a possibility of tooth discoloration.
He also said if possible and can tolerate it take it on an empty stomach..he would always follow up asking if I had any dizziness or nausea as well.
Hold the dairy for about an hour too.
Here's a link that talks about Mino.http://notes.healthmonthly.co.uk/health/safety-checker/minocycline.html
Vitamin C
Tooth discoloration is a side effect of minocycline observed primarily in young children, but it may occur in adults as well. Vitamin C supplementation may prevent staining in adults taking minocycline.
Interactions with Foods and Other Compounds/Food
Food slightly reduces blood levels of minocycline, but the effect is not significant. Unlike other tetracyclines, minocycline may be taken with or without food and is only slightly affected by meals containing dairy.
Good luck with this, tory
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- If you take powdered Vitamin C - always -
- always rinse mouth very well with water immediately after drinking it - and do not brush teeth for 30 minutes.
This helps to protect tooth enamel. Actually, after everything we eat or drink, lots of swishing with water is important - and also wait 30 minutes before brushing so the tooth enamel can get strong again after exposure to the food / acid.
Avoid all chemical tooth whiteners. They are very toxic and can damage the mouth tissue. -