I was thinking about pulsing in Art to the malarone-zith I have been taking for the last month, but just read today that Buhner no longer recommends it!
Totally bummed!
Is it because of increased tinnitus or something else???
The herbs he recommends in place of the Art are sida acuta and cryptolepis.
Does anyone have success stories with these?
Posted by mlg (Member # 35383) on :
Hi,
I saw some improvement with cryptolepis.
I also do a different pulse following a book. I don't know if I can list the book here. It is a combination of (plain art with grapefruit seed extract) and you have to follow a diet. I don't have the whole diet down but it is no sugar or carbs or antioxidents while doing a 3 day pulse. I am only able to do a 3 day pulse about every 7 days. Side effects are extreme exhaustion and air hunger while on it but then you see substational maintained improvement.
I haven't tried sida acuta.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Just because one person may not be recommending it as much as other things does not mean it may not have an excellent place in your treatment.
Of course, it's good to find out why he suggests what he does. His website links are in the Crypto link, next post.
Still, ask YOUR LL doctor about whether it would be right for you at this point in time. Especially since your are taking Rx, a LL doctor should guide you with the supplements, too.
You might take a look at past threads for the other herbs in question as there has been much posted for each of them. And read from other professionals sources, too.
Cryptolepis has helped some tremendously. But it's in short supply. I really appreciate Buhner's continual search for what else, how else. The other herb is similar in nature.
Antibacterial activity of alkaloids from Sida acuta
6-page pdf. - 22 September 2005
[Numerous authors, at link. From Rome, Italy & Burkina Faso � in western Africa]
Details: � . . . Cryptolepine (first isolated from Cryptolepis species . . . .� and now found in other plants as well. -
Posted by SickofLyme2 (Member # 16544) on :
Thank you Keebler and mlg for your quick responses.
I will call my doc today with my list of questions and study those links you gave me.
I was really banking on the Art to help me get rid of the babs once and for all.
How do you know when you are done with treatment?
I've read anywhere from 6-24 months, but how do you know?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I had great results with ART and zith. Finished off my babs in 2-3 months. I had previously done NUMEROUS rotations of clindamycin/quinine.
Posted by HaplyCarlessdave (Member # 413) on :
I think Artemia anua/ artimisinin was essential in my beating the babs (2003-4). It's probably not related but I have recently been dxd with lymphoma. So now I'm struggling with that. I'm beating it, though. DaveS
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Hi Dave!! Sorry to hear that! Do you happen to have Sjogren's too?? SJS patients are at a higher risk of getting lymphoma.
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
I was once on artemisinin with zyth and mepron. It seemed like the art eventually stopped working (resistance).
Posted by bcb1200 (Member # 25745) on :
My LLMD says Artemisinin isn't effective anymore except in very high doses which are dangerous to most patients.
It just doesn't work.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
FYI -
Artemisinin contains two oxygen atoms hooked together that break down in the presence of iron, by creating very reactive free radicals that kill malaria parasites and cancer cells.
Both cancer cells and malaria parasites sequester iron, accumulating as much as 1000 times what normal cells store.
Giving artemisinin to people with malaria or cancer results in destruction of these abnormal cells and leaves normal cells unaffected. Artemisinin is a cancer bomb!
It probably depends on the type of cancer. I believe it works better for some specific cancers than others.
Posted by SickofLyme2 (Member # 16544) on :
Thanks everyone! You guys are great. I could spend my whole life on here - learning so much.
Dave, I am so sorry to hear you have Lymphoma, but glad you are beating it!!!!
I recently had a Lymphoma scare as well - saw clover shaped cells in a blood smear I did on my own.
I subsequently had a CBC with a manual diff and it came back OK, they just saw occasional large platelets. My doctor is not concerned about that, though.
I can remember several years ago - maybe on this forum - reading that many people with TBD's get misdiagnosed with Lymphoma. I wonder why?
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Sorry to hear that! Do you happen to have Sjogren's too?? SJS patients are at a higher risk of getting lymphoma.