Then I noticed that it is primarily a yeast product. Does that exclude it from use by Lyme sufferers?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
prescription?
Posted by chaps (Member # 25286) on :
No, OTC. Available at Vitacost, Swanson, and lots of other places.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I don't know. I looked it up. I guess it is good yeast????
I wouldn't be able to take it because I'm sensitive to Vit C.
Posted by Kudzuslipper (Member # 31915) on :
I am taking this now. I was unable to take transfer factors lymeplus. My llmd and the manufacturer says that the fermente yeast is not a problem. It's been about a month. I am feeling good. But hard to say if that is due to Epicor or whatever?
I was impressed enough by what I read that I am trying it on my allergic dog. The company was nice enough to correspond right away with dosing info.
Check out this site, it is full of info. It also gives you a list of the brands that use the real source. I am using the one I got from my llmd, it has no fillers, but I am using a different jr.for my dog.
To be specific, I was concerned with it contributing to a candida problem.
Posted by Kudzuslipper (Member # 31915) on :
Yes. My llmd said not to worry about that. But everyone is different. But this is what they say about it. So if you stay away from bread...I may try something else.
Can EpiCor cause or worsen a yeast infection?
There is no similarity between Saccharomyces cerevisiae, found abundantly in the food supply and Candida albicans, which is an opportunistic yeast that proliferates in individuals with compromised immune systems. If you can consume bread, beer, or wine you should not have any issue with taking EpiCor.
Posted by CherylSue (Member # 13077) on :
I took it for over a year. It didn't do a thing for me, but that was my experience.
My current LLMD told me to take Transfer Factor PlasMyc. That seemed to boost my immunity, although it is expensive. I haven't been sick for 1 1/2 years which is pretty good for me since I worked in a school.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Kudzuslipper:
If you can consume bread, beer, or wine you should not have any issue with taking EpiCor.
- I guess that leaves me out!
Posted by chaps (Member # 25286) on :
I'm not seeking a product that "boosts" immunity. There are plenty of products that do that. When you boost immunity, you're also boosting autoimmunity. Inflammation is a problem for me right now. I don't want to inhibit the immune system in order to combat the inflammation.
I'm looking for something to MODULATE the immune system and Epicor is touted as being able to do that.
Bread, beer or wine? Beer or wine??? Anyone who can consume beer or wine wouldn't be on Lymnet because they don't have Lyme!
Posted by Rockette1 (Member # 38039) on :
chaps I'm in the same boat. Bad news to boost immunity for me too.
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
I think that Epicor is a good product. I've taken it off and on for a while. I didn't notice that I felt any differently, but I never get "sick."
You can find reviews of Epicor at iHerb.com.
Chaps, if inflammation is the problem, look into systemic enzymes. I've had BIG BIG improvements with Wobenzym.
Posted by chaps (Member # 25286) on :
I've been on Wobenzyme for over a year. Frankly, it hasn't done a whole lot for my inflammation lately.
One of the things that really ticks me off about Wobenzym is that it has to be taken at least 2 hours after eating anything or taking any other supplements and then 45 minutes before eating anything or taking any other supplements. And you've got to take 4 doses of 3 pills a day.
When so many of the other chronic illness supplements ALL want to be taken on an empty stomach and a half-hour before meals, then when are you supposed to get the freakin' time to freakin' eat/take anything else?????
And if you're at work, what are you supposed to do? Wear one of those hideous chronograph watches and set alarms to go off to remind you to take this freakin' crap?
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
I couldn't manage to take three doses daily, so I take it all in one dose.
I know my stomach is empty when I wake up, so that's when I take Wobenzym. Then I wait half an hour before I eat.
However, I do drink a glass of iced tea while I'm waiting, and that does not seem to affect it.
The systemic enzymes must be taken on an empty stomach, so that they do not dissolve until they pass into the small intestine. From what I read, about 25% of the enzymes are absorbed into your system.
I took twelve tablets daily for several years, with good results....less pain and fewer headaches. I tried experimenting and went up to 20 tablets with great results...my pain level went down further.
I'm presently taking 14 tablets daily. Whenever I stopped, the body and joint pain increased dramatically, and headaches got worse. I don't want to go back to the pain levels I had before.
Posted by chaps (Member # 25286) on :
I didn't think that taking them all in one dose would be effective, but I'll give it a try.
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
I'm doing fine with taking it all in one dose, and it certainly is simpler.
Some of the articles I read about Wobenzym said that physicians in Europe would prescribe 30 tablets per dose, to "force the therapeutic response."
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
This article has alot of info -
NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS TO IMPROVE AUTOIMMUNE HEALTH
I'm not sure that is exactly what you are looking for but it may help.
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
Chaps, try twelve tablets daily, in one dose.
How much Serrapeptase are you taking.
Posted by chaps (Member # 25286) on :
I've been taking 4 capsules of 40,000 serratio units per day. Brand: Doctor's best.
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
I don't think four tablets of Serrapeptase would be a problem.
Some people do take twenty tablets of enzymes daily.
Posted by chaps (Member # 25286) on :
Wow, I guess I'm a lightweight!
Posted by MichaelTampa (Member # 24868) on :
I've been taking 8 capsules a day (split in two doses) of serrapeptase, Enzymedica brand, along with about 6 tsp of Rechts Regulat and along with 1.5 cups cistus tea, all similar biofilm type treatments.