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Posted by bcerq (Member # 24043) on :
 
I have chronic lyme disease and was just

diagnosed with serum sickness caused by IV

Clarforan.

(Was taking Claforan along

plaquenil and zithromax for 5 weeks.)

My LLMD has taken me off of all my meds due to

the severe symptoms I have had for the past 8

days. I am nervous about taking steroids but

my doc says I cannot fight this off on my own

and I need to start taking Solumedrol ASAP.

Has anyone else been able to fight off a severe

case of serum sickness without taking steroids?
 
Posted by poppy (Member # 5355) on :
 
I had a reaction to the same drug and never figured out if it was an allergy, serum sickness, or herx. Non-itching hives upper half of body, extreme weakness.

Stopped the drug and after a week or two the rash went away. Did not take steroids. Not doctor supervised as doctor was too far away, so I went it alone. Not sure I would recommend this course of action to anyone else but it was what I had to do at the time.

Have heard of a number of people who have a bad reaction of some kind to claforan.
 
Posted by kgg (Member # 5867) on :
 
If your LLMD is saying you need the solumedrol, then you probably do. They are aware of the risks, know you as a patient and the severity of your reaction.

Everything I read said it was self limiting usually in 5 days. So if you are still reacting 8 days later, it sounds like you are having a good reaction.

Hope you feel better soon,
Karen
 
Posted by Tammy N. (Member # 26835) on :
 
bcerg - I don't know anything about Serum Sickness so I don't want to speak out of turn, but from all I know I would avoid heavy duty steroids, unless it was a life or death situation.

Maybe google some natural alternatives, then run these by your doctor as alternatives.

Sorry for this setback you are having. Wishing you well.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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You do not say WHO is prescribing this.

IF your LLMD, are you absolutely, positivetly 100% certain they are, in fact, ILADS educated with years of experience?

Even "regular" doses of steroids for those without lyme can kill those with lyme. Really. It has happened. They have also caused lyme to become nearly impossible to treat.

Still, if your LLMD is one of the best in the U.S. and is clearly very active and continually learning with ILADS, then they should have more detail about the specifics in your case.

One thing I've learned is that anytime someone says steroids are required, there may be another way that is much safer. Or, a different dose with other kinds of support around that.

Hopefully, your LLMD is tops in the field and is the one guiding this approach.

I don't know about serum sickness but do know that sometimes, extreme meausures must be taken to prevent all out adrenal failure that can be fatal, itself.

If you are not near adrenal failure, though, it seems there may be other options. If you are near adrenal failure, then it's really important to do what you need to do to address that - with LLMD guidance.

Still, be sure to consider the links in the next post.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=119975;p=0

Cortef ? Physiological replacement dose steroid range is discussed here.

Adrenal links & sleep support, too.


If a higher than physiological dose is involved, this really matters:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/100984?#000000

Topic: Damage & Serious Risks of STEROIDS for those with lyme


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For others' experiences, search in the subject line for either

Cortef - or - Hydrocortisone

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/search/search_forum/1

LymeNet Archives
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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I wonder if you were taking adequate LIVER SUPPORT with the IV?

Was this an allergic reaction or a herxheimer reaction?

Why wouldn't they do IVIG instead of steroids since steroids are such a risk with lyme, especially since you'll be off of any Rx to address lyme?

Just learning about "Serum Sickness" so my questions are rather basic.

Others may find this link from Wikepedia a decent start to learning more:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serum_sickness

SERUM SICKNESS

Excerpts:

Serum sickness in humans is a reaction to proteins in antiserum derived from a non-human animal source, occuring 4-10 days after exposure.

It is a type of hypersensitivity, specifically immune complex hypersensitivity (type III).

The term serum sickness�like reaction (SSLR) is occasionally used to refer to similar illnesses that arise from the introduction of certain non-protein substances.[1] . . .

. . . Causes

When an antiserum is given, the human immune system can mistake the proteins present for harmful antigens.

The body produces antibodies, which combine with these proteins to form immune complexes. These complexes enter walls of blood vessels and initiate an inflammatory response.

They can also cause more reactions resulting in typical symptoms of serum sickness. This results in hypocomplementemia, a low C3 level in serum.

Antitoxins and Antisera

Serum sickness can be developed as a result of exposure to antibodies derived from animals.

These sera or antitoxins are generally administered to prevent or treat an infection or envenomation.

Drugs

Some of the drugs associated with serum sickness are:

allopurinol
barbiturates
captopril

cephalosporins
griseofulvin
penicillins

phenytoin
procainamide
quinidine

streptokinase
sulfonamides

Others

Allergenic extracts, hormones and vaccines can also cause serum sickness. . . .

. . . Treatment

With discontinuation of offending agent, symptoms usually disappear within 4�5 days.

Corticosteroids, Antihistamines, and analgesics are main line of treatment. The choice depends of severity of reaction.

Use of plasmapheresis has also been described.[3] . . . .
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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I'm sure you've already read from several medical sources the patient and doctor informtion on this drug.

A basic start to research with Wiki excerpts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylprednisolone

Methylprednisolone is a synthetic glucocorticoid or corticosteroid drug. It is marketed in the USA and Canada under the brand names Medrol and Solu-Medrol.[1] It is also available as a generic drug.

It is a variant of prednisolone, methylated at carbon 6 of the B ring. . . .

. . . Uses

Like most adrenocortical steroids, methylprednisolone is typically used for its anti-inflammatory effects. However, glucocorticoids have a wide range of effects, including changes to metabolism and immune responses.

The list of medical conditions for which methylprednisolone is prescribed is rather long, and is similar to other corticosteroids such as prednisolone.

. . . [see cautions and how to never stop cold turkey] . . .

. . . Individuals on methylprednisolone therapy should assiduously avoid exposure to measles and chicken pox as contracting these viral infections while on high dose corticosteroids can result in a potentially fatal viral course.

Any accidental exposure to these viral infections by individuals uncertain of their immunity to chicken pox or measles should be reported immediately as prophylactic immunoglobulin therapy may be administered. . . .
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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I took this drug twice within a few months. Before I knew I was dealing with lyme. I had disasterous results.

Now, since you know the cautions in advance, just be sure that your LLMD is on top of the support needed around this.

If the prescribing doctor is not your LLMD, still, be sure your LLMD is on board with all the particulars.

If just to help reduce inflammation (which can create serious situations), there are many other ways to address that.

IV Magnesium might be one to ask your LLMD about. Others here:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.
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Posted by bcerq (Member # 24043) on :
 
Thank you for your help and insight. This was a

bad time of year to have this happen and my LLMD

is on vacation. I was not taking anything for

liver support with my IV. My liver enzymes are

elevated. The steroid was prescribed by

another infectious disease doctor in the same

group but she is not a lyme literate physician.

I have an appointment with my LLMD next

Thursday to discuss this. I am going to try and

hold off on taking the steriods until I see him.

The covering ID doctor was not 100% sure that I

had serum sickness and we are waiting for the

results of a blood test to confirm.
 


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