I took two before bed because I need a full stomach of food in order to take naproxyn and I didn't want to eat.
It had absolutely no effect. Took two more in morning and nothing.
This is an occipital headache sometimes with stiff neck.
I just finished first month of Buhner's new bart protocol and headache was getting less and less intense and I was feeling normal again.
Then, wham it's back with a vengeantce. So discouraged!
I know acetaminophin just masks pain where naproxyn takes down inflammation. But why is it not masking pain AT ALL for me?
Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
I wonder if it is because acetominiphen blocks glutathione.
Maybe it is because it stressed your liver and also blocked the glutathione-kept you toxic.
Posted by Marz (Member # 3446) on :
I did some googling for acetaminaphin and glutathione and your theory makes sense to me.
I have been taking huge amounts of milk thistle on Buhner and it seems that should counteract this though (?)
I'll check further tomorrow.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- From a recent post. Sorry, I don't have time to edit specifically to this thread.
- In an interview, this author said that, based on her research, at the very most, no more than ONE dose per week of acetaminophen and it would be best to avoid it altogether. She said it's just such a risk to hearing damage.
. . . The First Large Study of Analgesic Use and Hearing Loss in Women
We studied over 60,000 women who are participants in the Nurses’ Health Study II and followed them for 14 years in order to prospectively examine whether analgesic use is a risk factor for hearing loss in women.
During follow-up, over 10,000 women developed hearing loss.
The participants in the Nurses’ Health Studies are a remarkable group of dedicated and reliable women who have been followed for decades and have provided our group of researchers with a wealth of detailed information on their diet, lifestyle factors, medication use, medical conditions, and more. We used this information to evaluate how their use of analgesic medications may be related to hearing.
The Major Findings
We found that women who regularly took the analgesics ibuprofen or acetaminophen two or more days per week had an increased risk of hearing loss and the more often a woman took either of these medications, the higher her risk tended to be. . . .
. . . For acetaminophen, we found that compared with women who used acetaminophen less than one day per week, the increased risk for women who used acetaminophen 2 or more days per week ranged from 11 to 21% and the risk tended to be higher with increasing use. . . .
. . . Acetaminophen may deplete important factors, such as the powerful antioxidant glutathione, that protect the cochlea from damage. . . .
. . . Our findings for ibuprofen and acetaminophen are consistent with what we previously reported in MEN. In men, we also found that regular use of aspirin was associated with an increased risk of hearing loss. . . .
. . . What Does This All Mean?
There are a number of factors that contribute to the development of hearing loss. Advancing age is a strong risk factor, along with some medical conditions, certain medications, exposure to excessive noise and genetics. Our findings suggest that frequent analgesic use may also be an important but preventable contributor to hearing loss. . . .
NEW STUDY FINDS FREQUENT IBUPROFEN AND ACETAMINOPHEN USE MAY INCREASE RISK OF HEARING LOSS
References:
Curhan, S.G., Shargorodsky, J., Eavey, R., & Curhan, G.C. (2012). Analgesic use and the risk of hearing loss in women. American Journal of Epidemiology. Advance online publication. doi: 10.1093/aje/kws146
Curhan, S.G., Shargorodsky, J., Eavey, R., & Curhan, G.C. (2010). Analgesic use and the risk of hearing loss in men. American Journal of Medicine, 123(3), 231-237.
Tiny overdoses of Tylenol can add up to deadly damage
11-22-11 By Rachel Rettner (My Health News Daily)
Taking even slightly too much Tylenol over a period of several days can lead to an overdose with deadly consequences, a new study says.
The study looked at what are called "staggered overdoses," in which a person repeatedly exceeds the daily recommendation through small overdoses. This is in contrast to the more familiar single overdose, when a person takes too many pills at once. . . .
. . . Even a single dose of acetaminophen can reduce the body’s levels of glutathione, a peptide that helps repair oxidative damage that can drive inflammation in the airways, researchers have found. . . . -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
[this gentle type is excellent for those with lyme as there is no sudden twisting of the spine or neck - which should never be done with some who deals with lyme] -
Posted by Marz (Member # 3446) on :
I do avoid all OTC pain relievers for the reason that I know that acetaminapin is hard on the liver and naproxen and ibuprofen and aspirin very hard on my stomach.
I have a rx for codeine but I ration that out so much of the time I'm just in pain. curcumin helps a little.
It's probably the first time in a couple of months that I tried tylenol. I was so desperate.
What I don't understand is why it didn't take the intensity of the headache down even a tad.
At 3:00 in the am I resorted to half of a codeine because after 7 hours the extra strength tylennol hadn't worked at all.
I routinely take natural calm magnesium every night before bed.
I'm better today. Pressure is still there, but headache is not as bad.
Posted by YinYang (Member # 36358) on :
What did you eat in the 24-48 hours prior to getting the headache?
Posted by Marz (Member # 3446) on :
Can't remember that far back what I ate, but nothing unusual. I'm gluten free and diet is pretty simple.
This headache is pretty much 24/7, but had improved amazingly on Buhner after 1 month.
I'm still despondent that it didn't last. Was better yesterday, but today, fatigue and pain is worse.
I have a phone consult coming up tomorrow with LLMD.