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Posted by Spindleshanks (Member # 32556) on :
 
Hello

Just wondering if anyone is in contact with Buhner.

The healing lyme site is no longer taking questions from my understanding.

I am reading his new co infections book and have a question about the fermented wheat germ extract.

I am drinking rejuvelac. A fermented wheat berry probiotic drink.

The wheat is sprouted then fermented into the drink. Since it's the germ that sprouts it seems like it could be used in place of the FWGE.

The FWGE is very exspensive but from what he states is very effective against mycoplasma.

It would really help us broke lyme sufferers out to know what he thinks of the great drink. It was invented be Ann Wigmore.

Interesting women and her book how to be your own doctor is very different.

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Posted by rowingmom (Member # 41213) on :
 
Buhner answered questions for so long on his site, I miss going there and seeing his information.

Perhaps you could schedule an appointment to talk with his associate. It's $150/hr now though.

http://www.gaianstudies.org/herbal_consult.html
 
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
Pretty sure he is retired and just writing books now.

Bea Seibert
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Buhner is brilliant and an excellent researcher. In general, wheat germ has some wonderful properties. However, IMO, no one with lyme should take wheat germ in any form (including wheat berries) due to the gluten content.

As you say the product you drink has SPROUTED wheat . . . well, that may not contain gluten but it can be tricky and should be officially CERTIFIED to be gluten-free or I'd not trust it.

It would have to be produced in a certified gluten-free facility, on certified gluten-free equipment. Even then, it can be extremely hard to sift out the berry from the sprout so the supplier would have to be exceptionally trustworthy for the drink you consume.

Back to your question, though, I don't see how FWGE can be gluten-free, though as the name implies it's the germ, itself, that is fermented.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Wheat germ does contain gluten, and wheat berries (nuts), too - according to celiac.com:

http://www.celiac.com/articles/182/1/Unsafe-Gluten-Free-Food-List-Unsafe-Ingredients/Page1.html

Excerpt:

Wheat, Abyssinian Hard triticum durum
Wheat amino acids

Wheat Bran Extract
Wheat, Bulgur

Wheat Durum Triticum

Wheat Germ Extract
Wheat Germ Glycerides

Wheat Germ Oil

Wheat Germamidopropyldimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein

Wheat Grass (can contain seeds)
Wheat Nuts

Wheat Protein

Wheat Triticum aestivum
Wheat Triticum Monococcum
Wheat (Triticum Vulgare) Bran Extract
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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There is always another way. FWGE simply can't be the only thing to achieve the intended goal.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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I woke up this morning wondering about HEMP OIL. My copy of his book is due in a few days. I will read what it says about FWGE and see if some searching for something equal might be in my energy "allowance"

Personally, I would love it if someone could say, for certain that the germ of the wheat would not contain gluten. With it being on the celiac site, I would think they would know. Still, it's not a closed search yet. Looking forward to seeing Buhner's new book.

Some questions might be answered by looking through old posts of his. You can often just Google his last name and then the name of whatever you wonder about and it should take you to discussion posts of the past, even if there are no new ones.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:

if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )

Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.

When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.

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How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

D.O. (Doctor of Osteopathy);

D.C. (Doctor of Chiropractic);

Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc.

Be aware that integrative doctors can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first. Some have learned on their own from experts in the field. There are many ways to acquire knowledge and most are eager to share basic details about their training. You want someone with a deep knowledge.

Some of the specialities above may not actually treat lyme yet, for things such as physical adjustments, it is just good that they are also LL, at least to some degree (to know never to suddenly twist the neck or spine).

Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:

Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;

knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.

You can compare and contrast many approaches.

BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,

BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,

LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail,

BIOPHOTON - BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and

RIFE links.
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