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Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :

Heat does potentiate meds…in Germany they are...

http://www.hindawi.com/journals/cpis/2013/275013/

Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :

I am so confused...is oncothermia hot or cold?

It talked about RF and that's when I got balled up...

Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :

That's not new news to me. I got my life back but doing the controversial ICHT in Italy. Heat killed my spirochetes.

Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :

Fascinating Marnie! It would be nice if we had it here. Just another example of how the US is so behind in medicine. Fifteen other countries have it.

Greta, it's heat. [Smile]

http://www.integratedhealthclinic.com/_cancercare/cancerOncothermia.htm

Posted by lax mom (Member # 38743) on :

My body does that for me on a daily basis with my daily low grade fevers [Wink]

Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :

Thanks Catgirl [Smile]

Posted by sk8ter (Member # 8671) on :

ABX you went to Italy to do this?

Posted by Abxnomore (Member # 18936) on :

Yes, many years ago.

Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :

http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/02656739809018233?journalCode=hth

read the second sentence…last word in it (inhibits)

Then go here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18673219

I’ve been telling you…getting inflammation down (body response) is a very very important co-factor.

I'd like to see a very TARGETED approach....hit Bb in the INFECTED cells only...and avoid...limit/slow down...the inflammatory response. I am concerned about "collateral damage".

Berberine AND Minocycline/other?

Like this:

http://aac.asm.org/content/50/3/1096.full

Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :

The articles I have been reading (only in cancer treatment) say that cells need to reach 111-113 degrees F to be effective and safe.

Even at my worst fever, I never went higher than 104 degrees F.

And from what I've read, the heat proteins of Bb can handle 104 easy.

Which is a crying shame.

Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :

Summary from the above article (for folks with bad eyes):

"These findings suggest that there was reduced oxygen delivery to the tips of the small intestinal villi during regional ischemia following WBH [Whole Body Heating].

In conclusion, insufficient tissue oxygen delivery as detected by a reduction in inramucosal pH is an important index in whole body heating. "

From Wiki:
"In medicine, ischemia, is a restriction in blood supply to tissues, causing a shortage of oxygen and glucose needed for cellular metabolism (to keep tissue alive)."