According to the Austrian clinic, that has been using it for 75 years... The text seems to be written by MDs, who founded the clinic, I can't understand all specific terms, but I hope I can translate it a bit....
Don't laugh at my English, as I am doing my best... If anyone has better suggestions, please correct me!
The effects of our high frequency therapy have in the physical world is:
- mechanical (skin stimuli, muscle contraction),
- thermal (low heat)
- optical (ultraviolet light - barely has any therapeutic role in such low intensities),
- in the chemical field: it provokes formation of ozone and nitrogen oxide
- and the formation of ions (both positive and negative), and this results in a change in the ion concentration or on the ratio of positive and negative ions, causing then a biological effect.
Single pole irradiation (like the Tesla wand does, just ONE electrode, not two) can charge the body.
By distant irradiation (effluvia) the patient is negatively charged (alkaline reaction),
.... wherein close irradiation (fulguration, contact), the patient is positively charged (acidic reaction).
(Brussels: if you touch the electrode on your skin, you will charge positive ions and you get an acidic reaction. If you do not touch, but let a distance from electrode to your skin, you will be negativeley charged, and then get an alkalinization).
The body is acidified by positive irradiation and alkalinized by the negative exposure.
Acidification implies a strengthening of the sympathetic nervous system.
Alkalization implies toning of the pararasympathetic nervous system. -------------------------------
The effects affect the skin, muscles, blood pressure (weaker currents lower blood pressure, stronger currents increase it), ...
... diuresis (increased discharge of nitrogen, urea, uric acid, phosphates, water - reducing the acidity of the urine)
... and also the blood vessels (dilation of cerebral vessels, increase on the speed of blood circulation, facilitating the whole blood circulation by reducing the innervations due to peripheral resistance).
On the other side, high-frequency therapy affects the heart directly (strengthen the systole, bradycardia, initial increase in blood pressure...)
... it has effect on microorganisms (bactericidal) ,
... on metabolism (excitation by inhalation of ozone and nitrogen oxide, increase the basal metabolic rate),
.. and on the lungs (increase in lung volume, respiratory depression)
... and the central nervous system (CNS).
---------- If I get more patience and time, I'll translate the rest. But only this is enough to show the power of such therapy.
I now understand why I keep breathing so deep since start from therapy: it does affect my lungs!!!
and the way high frequencies travel through the body is mainly by innervations (by nerves!!!). I told you guys before, that was my feeling since start! This will come in the next part of the translation (someone wants to help me??)
These frequencies travel all over the body through the nerves, and that is how I had such a strong reaction on nerves, and why treating your spine brings so much!!
These MDs have 75 years of experience (it's a family business...), and some devices to measure results, so I guess, that is how they can write it so precisely, what is the way such frequencies may help your body.
I hope you enjoy reading!
[ 05-24-2015, 06:26 PM: Message edited by: Brussels ]
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Suggestion for those who would like the effluvia method, meaning, to let a distance from the electrode to your body, to help alkalinize it, then strengthening your parasympathic:
Get a cotton sock, or a small piece of white cotton tissue. Attach it with a rubber band on your electrode.
Too thin tissue: will work less well. It's got to have some thickness (not too much though).
Test it on your face, or near your ears. You will FEEL the frequencies entering your body easier. You might need more power than usually. So increase power as you feel...
It feels MUCH MILDER than the DIRECT CONTACT application (fulguration), meaning, directly touching your skin.
It feels very relaxing, less intense in feeling. I even used it on my eyes. Still very mild sensations...
The biological effect though, according to what I read, can be STRONGER than with direct contact!!! So please, start slow.
The electrode will glide much smoother on your body (with cotton, I mean), it is very relaxing really.
Posted by jlcd1 (Member # 18138) on :
ok thanks
Posted by jlcd1 (Member # 18138) on :
ok so i just ordered the one from the ebay link. From China I think. I hope it ship's sooner than it says.
Thanks for the info!
Posted by gz (Member # 43818) on :
Huge thanks to you Brussels for taking the time to translate and post this info!
When you place cotton or similar between the electrode and the skin, do you not feel a slight stinging from the arc put out, as opposed to direct contact which does not allow the arc to happen?
This supports the literature I had read, which stated treating the spine was preferable and therapeutic, and that putting a layer between electrode and skin could add to effect. I also read that effect could be much more stimulating than direct contact.
I think you can get a more direct arc with the more narrow pieces. I will try them with a sock next time. They were difficult for me to maneuver by myself using direct skin contact, I also got a lot more arc than with the mushroom electrode.
jlcd1 I hope your wand comes soon! If something happens with shipping or otherwise there are usually Amazon vendors selling it with Prime shipping.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Brussels,
It's nice to see so many good threads from you on this topic lately. Wonder if you might want to put some of the links into a set and add to the "How to Find a LL ND" thread where there is a collection of adjunct approaches?
If so, whenever you like, here's where you will find that:
Or maybe just put one link and explain that if the reader clicks onto your name they can see other TESLA threads in your posting history around the same date.
It's very handy that you include TESLA in all your thread "headlines" - another way for a full search. -
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
JLC, I hope it won't take too long to come! And that it comes without defects...
You're welcome guys. If someone knows German, please help me translate the rest. It's pretty full of medical terms, and I do not understand them all... ---------------- GZ,
If I increase the potency, I can feel even PAIN with the cotton method. I do not like pain (chicken...), so I do not do that.
but I guess you are right, it must be even stronger.
I am chicken, usually, and I do not like strong treatments, in general, because I hate to collapse.
So I use my gentle, painless, chicken method: just two layers of a thin cotton (sock or bed sheets), and enjoy the time with my wand.
It feels SOFTER, MILDER than through direct contact. But this is an ILLUSION, as I am herxing again, after doing the wand for only 5 minutes!!!
I needed chlorella twice today, and I was taking chlorella just about once a week, before changing the method of application.
I do guess the MDs must have some reason, and now I am getting different reactions with it.
Only time will tell, if this was a coincidence (that I needed chlorella to function well), or if it does act differently, recharging my body with negative ions, instead of positive.
I am having some high blood pressure in the last week or so, so I am willing to change the method of use, just to see if I can support my parasympathic nerves...
so the lesson of today is: doing the electrodes far from your body MAY feel milder (if current is low), may feel stronger (if you increase the current, it will sting your skin), but I suspect that both have a stronger effect in the end (at least for detoxing). -----------
Keebler, yes, maybe I'll keep the name Tesla all over, it's a good suggestion for the search engines. I do think this man was overseen by history, good to keep his name alive.
Posted by gz (Member # 43818) on :
I believe I've been using this method for a while without realizing there was so much difference. When I get down to my hips and tailbone I've been using the wand over my clothing. I usually turn it down a little, the arc sometimes stings.
I have been needing a lot of chlorella daily, much more than before. I'm also not feeling like I need very much my liver support herbs. I've been thinking it all very strange, not connecting it to the wand. But perhaps that could be the cause of these changes.
Brussels, I wish I could help with the translation, but German is completely unfamiliar to me.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
TRANSLATION, PART 2:
For our therapy, the use of reflexive relations between the skin and the body's external parts and internal organs is very important.
From the periphery of the skin, we can treat the functioning of internal organs, muscles, vessels, nerves and bone - through the neural pathway (via nerve pathway) and /or humoral pathway (via bloodstream, lymph, ...).
The achievement of such effects is done through appropriate stimuli to appropriate skin areas by the high frequency discharges.
----------------- EFFECT OF SKIN STIMULATION ON NEURAL PATHWAYS (in other words, changes caused by stimulation of the nervous system):
This leads to a vasodilation in the skin that is caused by the currents on the local reflex of pain pathways .
The so-called "Axon reflex" lets no synapses - the afferent impulse comes from the skin, still in the periphery - to the efferent vascular nerves.
( Note from Brussels: what the heck is kutiviszeraler Reflex, according to an academic dictionary in German:
Any kind of reflex influencing the movement, secretion and circulation of viscera organs by mechanical, thermal and chemical stimuli that are applied to the skin (especially in the evolutionarily associated spinal cord segments).
The stimuli can be set through massage, hot or cold pads (cataplasms) and through, inter alia, ointments, liniments (camphor, menthol, cantharidin, etc.). ) end of Note from Br.
An increased sensitivity to touch or excessive pains in certain areas of the skin may indicate a disease of internal organs.
Internal organs are connected through nerves (innervation) to the same spinal segment with a specific skin area.
(Brussels: I guess he means, that each organ is connected to the skin through nerves that themselves connect to specific areas of the spine. That is how these reflexes can be found on skin.)
Viscero-cutaneous reflexes cause skin reactions, if internal organs are ill, at specific areas of the skin innervations. That is called Headsche Reflex-zones.
(Br: I guess it means, a sick organ will show its illness through the skin, through pain, red spots, for example; that is what I understood, because the skin is linked to the organs through nerves.)
Kutiviszerale reflex realm: here, skin stimuli influence the autonomic innervation of internal organs.
--------------- I'll continue this translation after.
Whatever this all means, it does look that the stimulus of high frequencies travel through the body from skin THROUGH nerves, till they reach inner organs.
That was EXACTLY one of the first things I noted with this Tesla wand!! My nerves got in fire!! My spine got sooo painful as it never been (not the spine exactly, but around it, my WHOLE BACK NERVES).
Then later I realized I got pain in my abdomen, but NOT inside organs, OUTSIDE THEM.
It was the weirdest pain I ever felt. And I wrote here in the first thread about feeling NERVE PAIN in my ORGANS. What the heck is that, well, I guess you all have to try and see for yourselves.
Not liver pain, but pain around the liver. Not gut pain, but pain in the nerves, around the abdomen. I can't describe that precisely, unless you feel this pain. I know what is stomach pain, intestine pain, liver pain, gall bladder pain, kidney pain, as I have /had these pains.
Nerve pain in the organs, is different!
You can check my first thread to confirm: that was exactly what I thought the wand was doing: acting on my nerves, detoxing them, all over my body.
Now I know that this is one way the treatment is sent to internal organs! It has to be sent inside, otherwise, how can my candida get dormant so fast?
Another thing I'm sure the wand does, is to open my cells, and allow nutrition in, and put off trash. He says something about that in the end of the text. I hope I'll be able to translate it until the end.
Volunteers to help??
[ 05-24-2015, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: Brussels ]
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
GZ, both daughter and I stopped liver supplements for already 3 months.
Liver was my main problem, and gall bladder my daughter's main organ in trouble. for ages!
Somehow, I start to feel my body is learning how to detox by itself. I do need chlorella on and off, but I feel my body is doing a lot (just when I see the color of urine, it is really amazing, almost like a light coke).
No problem, I hope someone more knowledgeable on German can help...
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Forgot to thank you for the translation work . . . and the very nice layout. Easy reading and the spacing for some breathing time for the eyes, that's also spaced just right for some breathing room for the brain to allow a thought to land.
Your narrative is appreciated, too, and you make it clear where it is you who is talking. Thanks for all that effort. -
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
Very good info, thanks Brussels!
Posted by Lymieloo (Member # 45753) on :
That was great, Brussels! I wish I knew German, I would help you! Silly American schools, not letting kids learn a foreign language until 11th grade, grrrr. At least not around here, although they've gotten better since I went, back in the dark ages. My daughter took German in 8th grade.
I'm not sure I understand all that, but don't worry, it's not your translation! You translation was excellent -- I think it's just my lymebrain. It's all confusing to me, but another reason may be because I'm so unfamiliar with the whole wand thing.
So, do these wands shock you if you touch them to your skin? I remember one of the videos I watched, the lady said you might get a tiny shock, but no big deal. But I HATE getting shocked, even a very tiny static shock drives me nuts! If it shocks me I'm afraid I'll freak out and drop it and break it. Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
No shocks. I also hate shocks with rife (I have the one with electrodes...).
You feel something different. You may feel pain, if you increase potency. But if you keep low, take electrolytes (salt rock diluted in water), you may feel nothing. Just relaxing (my daughter can barely sit up when she's having her Tesla session)... -------- You're all welcome.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
TRANSLATION PART 3:
EFFECT OF SKIN STIMULATION ON THE HUMORAL WAY (usually linked to nerves):
(Br NOTE: HUMORAL definition = pertaining or derived from a body fluid. The humoral part of the immune system includes antibodies and immunoglobulins in blood serum)
Through the action of high frequency discharges, there are:
... changes and degradation of skin cells,...
... the formation of metabolites,
... a finely dosed parenteral protein intake (protein therapy (?)),
... release of vasodilatory substances (eg histamine).
... and stimulation of endocrine glands (self-hormone - eg increased increase of release of corticoids).
Also all breakdown products (Brussels: garbage, detox, die off ) pass through the bloodstream (humoral way).
(Br. what is hyperemia: an increase in the quantity of blood flow to a body part.)
The hyperemia described above is caused by the expansion of the skin vessels after temporary contraction.
The skin redness is initially made up of individual points, later they may consist of larger spots, which eventually coalesce (flow together) with each other.
By the end of the treatment, the highest point (Br: of skin redness, I suppose) is usually achieved. Exceptionally, they can still grow after treatment.
The time is different: sometimes 24, rarely 48 hours (possibly edema and hives). ----------------
Wow, this is very interesting.... I have been having red spots here and there. They itch, but do not open (like some bad eczema).
I get them on lymph nodes (under the jaw, under the ears, on my neck), and my scalp must have something as it itches sometimes badly.
It's been like that for many weeks, I think about the last 2 months since I started the treatment.
Someone else using the wand also got that red spots, I can't remember who...
So that happens because of enlargement of blood vessels and some cleaning (detox), if I understood it well? Or probably some histamin reaction?
I start to feel the author does have some years of experience with high frequencies. It's the first time, things start to make some sense in my mind...
-------- The effect on the skin is well known by these TEsla-Darsonval wands.
It is very true that moles disappear! The clear ones are really gone.
And the skin gets so much brighter, elastic, less dry. When I massage my face, it is SO soft, like a baby skin.
And smaller scars do disappear too. Quite fast. I had and still have many, due to chicken pox and bad acne. Smaller scars, really, they are invisible now!!! Bigger ones not.
My feet had very bad candida infection for decades. It PEELED for 3 months, only now it stopped peeling off. Not totally, but it looks like almost normal skin (No more candida now, for the last 3 months).
What I didn't heal yet, is my Raynaulds. Let's see till next winter, if it will get better. If this does increase blood circulation as it says, it should help me there too. Let's see.
And the increase in certain hormones, it may be true, as how does this technique stop eczema so fast?
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lymieloo:
So, do these wands shock you if you touch them to your skin? I remember one of the videos I watched, the lady said you might get a tiny shock, but no big deal. But I HATE getting shocked, even a very tiny static shock drives me nuts! If it shocks me I'm afraid I'll freak out and drop it and break it.
No, they don't shock. They certainly sound like they will! But they don't. You feel it, but it's not a shock. It's nothing at all like getting a static shock in the wintertime. I haven't tried it on the higher setting though ....
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
That was me that had all kind of rashes on my lymph nodes and all over the body too after the wand. The rashes mostly appeared on most problematic spots.
For me it is the toxins coming out.
I've added kidneys and liver to my treatments areas with the wand. Even though I use the wand more time ( about 2,5-3 min) it makes me feel better and not worse, since detox is intensified.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Anuta, how much time do you use the wand? I'm not sure what you mean in your post.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Sometimes when I first touch the glass with my fingers I do get a shock.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Six, I do 2,5- 3 min every other day on min potency. When I started I did more, I think the first time I did 10 min on max, as I thought I was familiar with the device and used it before Lyme for cosmetic purposes. Gosh I was wrong !!!! The herx was huge and lasted for 3 days. So I've learned my lesson the hard way.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Thanks, Anuta. I'm doing 2 min and I definitely feel it, I can't imagine what you felt with 10 min!!!
Posted by gigimac (Member # 33353) on :
I don't want to go off topic but I didn't know you could get shocked using rife. i have planned to get a rife machine when i get the money.
is it an unpleasant or shocking sensation to use a rife machine?
Posted by Lymieloo (Member # 45753) on :
So my wand arrived a couple of days ago from China, according to the mailing label, even though on eBay it said it comes from Hong Kong. Oh well, doesn't matter to me, as long as it works!
But that's the thing...now I'm scared to use it! I forgot to start taking chlorella, and I should have started as soon as I ordered this, because it always takes me a couple of weeks to get the point where I can take more than 6-8 a day, and it sounds like I might need a lot.
I bought some bentonite clay in bulk, but like a dork I didn't research it until AFTER I bought it (had no clue how to use it, how much, etc.), and found I didn't buy nearly enough.
Then I heard about diametaceous (sp?) earth from Brussels, and after looking into that it seems that it might be better, only because it's rich in silica, which my sparse hair and peeling/ridged fingernails really need. Other than that, from what I've read, it seems that the two do exactly the same thing.
Has anyone here used both DE and bentonite, and if so, do you think one is better than the other? My other question is, for someone who has never used the Tesla wand before, where should I start?
Should I start on a problem place, like my lungs, heart, spine, or abdomen (gut issues), or should I start somewhere I don't have a problem (hmm....where would that be?)? Like, I don't know -- my face? This is starting to freak me out.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by gigimac:
I don't want to go off topic but I didn't know you could get shocked using rife. i have planned to get a rife machine when i get the money.
is it an unpleasant or shocking sensation to use a rife machine?
- It's not a rife machine.
I've never felt ANY shock with Rife.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lymieloo:
Has anyone here used both DE and bentonite, and if so, do you think one is better than the other? My other question is, for someone who has never used the Tesla wand before, where should I start?
I've used both. The DE made me break out in a horrible painful rash all over my face.
Living Clay just HELPS me with no noticeable side effects. I use only 1/4 tsp per day .. if that .. and still have benefits.
Posted by Lymieloo (Member # 45753) on :
Thanks, Lymetoo, that helps a lot. About the only thing I found on the clay said to mix 1/2 cup of clay w/4 cups of water, in a plastic or glass container, no metal. It said don't even use a metal spoon.
Then it said to drink 1 oz. of the clay water every day for the first week, then 2 oz. daily after that. And in the case of specific health concerns (wello that's us), drink more. It didn't say how much more.
But even the low dosage seemed like a lot...my brain refuses to do the math but it seems like a lot more than 1/4 tsp. a day! lol I think I'll start with that, especially since I have less than the 1/4 cup called for.
Do you just mix it in a glass of water? I read that it had to be hydrated in order to work, but who knows.
Posted by Lymieloo (Member # 45753) on :
One more question -- if I use the wand on my bladder, do you think it'll make me have to pee less often? lol
Yes I said lol because I'm laughing, it just struck me as funny, but really, I'm serious. I really wonder if it will help!
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
That would be nice if the wand would work on the bladder!
Yes, I just mix it in water with a plastic spoon. It's easy to mix it in a water bottle too if you have one. (You can shake it)
Some days I take 1/2 tsp .. I don't quite understand why they say to do it the way they do. I did have the owner's email at one time, but I never contacted them.
I just do what works for me.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
I've taken bentonite clay, but the kind I had came already mixed with directions, sorry I'm no help there.
Maybe pick ONE place to use the wand. Like maybe use it on your back over your liver or kidneys for 20 seconds or so. Wait and see how you feel the next day. Then work up from there.
I'm using mine every other day now up from twice a week. I use it probably 3 min though I'm not timing. I use it on my liver, kidney, abdomen, and neck. I also use it on my face ... it's supposed to be anti-aging, so why not!!?
Posted by gigimac (Member # 33353) on :
thanks for answering my question lymetoo!
Posted by Pebbles (Member # 43614) on :
Lymieloo, just wondering if you started using the wand yet? You sound like me, I ordered one and now I am afraid to us it. I definitely need to increase the binders for a bit first so it might be awhile for me.
Sixgoofykids, What are you feeling so far? Any difference, good or bad?
Posted by Lymieloo (Member # 45753) on :
Hi Pebbles, yes, I finally worked up the nerve to try it yesterday! I couldn't remember much of anything Brussels or anyone else said, so I ended up using it on 3 different parts. Now I see that a few posts ago, Brussels said it might be good to start with one area. Oops.
I used the comb on my head for maybe 10-15 seconds, since my once-plentiful hair is sadly depleted, and falling out each day.
Then I put the mushroom in and started using it at the base of my neck, since I have many old whiplash injuries and at one time a herniated disc there. I accidentally touched the side of the mushroom wand against the side of my neck and got a small zap. Not like a shock, but a sting.
Scared the c*** out of me! I turned it off and noticed that I didn't have the piece shoved down into the handle all the way. I was trying so hard to be careful not to break the glass, I ended up being too careful.
So then I spent about 20 seconds on my belly, like from gall bladder area to abdomen. All together I think I used it less than a minute. Several hours later, before bed, I took a bit less than 1 tsp. bentonite clay in about 6 oz. of water.
Early this a.m. I woke up enough to realize I was starting to get a headache, which is how my herxes always start. Then the headache grows to gargantuan proportions -- weeks ago it even became a full-blown migraine. It only lasted a day though; the others always lasted several.
But this a.m. I went back to sleep and when I got up, the beginning headache was gone. I thought it might return later, but it's after 6 p.m. and it hasn't. However I do generally feel crummy and have more joint pain than usual.
Don't know if it's from the light or not, since it's been 2 weeks since my last herx and I found after reviewing my sx's log, I herx about every 2 weeks. Except the migraine, that took 3.
Posted by Lymieloo (Member # 45753) on :
Oh Brussels, I meant to ask you about the dial on your wand. Is it marked in any way? Mine isn't -- it's just a round switch you turn on and turn it up and down, like a volume control.
I do think I remember you saying once to start at the lowest setting; but when I did that I saw no light at all, and heard no noise. So I turned it up maybe 1/4 of the way. Hard to tell when there's no markings though.
Posted by NJFitnessGuy (Member # 30886) on :
I bought one off Amazon that was advertised as a Violet Argon unit and received the orange neon one instead. Trying to either exchange it or get my money back and order elsewhere.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
quote:Originally posted by Pebbles: Sixgoofykids, What are you feeling so far? Any difference, good or bad?
Yes, it's helping.
I'm on herbs and probiotics for dysbiosis and had trouble with them because they made me too toxic and had to stop them. I used the light and now am handling both the herbs and probiotics. I honestly didn't know how I was going to heal my gut since I wasn't tolerating the herbs/probiotics at all.
I caught a very bad head cold from my granddaughter (hubby and SIL also got it). I've been using it on my sinuses and it's helped tons. I woke up one morning and my right sinus was visibly swollen. I used the light and it felt much better. I normally end up with secondary infections from a cold this bad (either sinus or bronchitis) and so far so good. Day 5.
I felt horrible from the cold when I got up this morning and thought I might spend a day on the couch, but after using the light, I have energy and can go through a normal day aside from the fact that I'm blowing my nose constantly.
So far, I like it. I've already gotten my $30 worth. Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Lymieloo, that's how mine is, no markings.
I use it on a lower setting, but have been increasing. I think I'm using it about halfway up now. If I feel a shock at all, I turn it down a little.
I'm using mine directly on my skin.
Posted by Pebbles (Member # 43614) on :
Thanks for the info Lymieloo!! Hope it works for you. Have you looked into any medications you may be using that may cause hair loss.
Thanks sixgoofykids for the feedback, that is very encouraging and makes me not as nervous to try it out. Although it will be awhile for me. I ordered it from Amazon, but I didn't pay attention to where it was coming from. It is coming from China and won't be here until July!
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Six .. give us the link to the one you bought, please!
I want to make sure I get the right one.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
This is what I bought. I ordered one three days later than someone else who ordered from the same link. Mine came from the US and got it in a week or two. His still hasn't come in because it's shipping from China. Just pay attention when you order where it's coming from. I think different vendors pop up with the same link.
Posted by Lymieloo (Member # 45753) on :
Pebbles -- I have sub-clinical hpothyroidism, which is what started the hair loss. "Sub-clinical" (I think that's what they call it) meaning, in the 23 years I've had it, it's only shown up 2 or 3 times on a blood test; however when I do the Barnes basal test, my temp. is always much lower than it should be. My dr. says this is a typical Lyme thing, as does Dr. K.
Although....I'm relatively sure that the hair loss increased when my reg. dr. changed my meds from Levothyroxin and Liothyronine (Cytomel) to Naturethroid, because I wanted to try a natural one. It said in side effects that it may cause temp. hair loss, so I was hoping this would stop. Something I should chat with Lyme dr. about.
NJ -- Someone here has said that the orange and violet lights do the same thing. I also watched a video where they were saying that as well, so it might be something to check into. But I can understand your annoyance at not getting the item described, too.
Six -- I ordered mine off eBay, and it said it was coming from Hong Kong. It got here fast though, like maybe a week and a half. When it arrived, the return address was China! Before that, I'd ordered 2 cookbooks from Amazon, and they took almost a month to arrive.
Posted by NJFitnessGuy (Member # 30886) on :
This is what I bought. I ordered one three days later than someone else who ordered from the same link. Mine came from the US and got it in a week or two. His still hasn't come in because it's shipping from China. Just pay attention when you order where it's coming from. I think different vendors pop up with the same link.
This is exactly who I ordered from and it came from china. False advertising though, since they sent me the Neon Orange instead of the Argon Violet. I`m told the Orange Neon are slightly cheaper to manufacture, so they are distributing these to customers. Let me know which one your friend ends up getting. They told me it is not a problem to return it.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Mine was violet and I pulled that link off my order on Amazon, but each time it shows a different supplier. Mine came from Simple Health.
I hope my friend gets the violet because it's actually a gift for my husband. I've been hiding mine from him so it's a surprise. My husband travels a lot so I knew we'd both want our own. I ordered mine later yet I've had mine 2 weeks already and his isn't supposed to come in between June 16-29 when originally told it would be two weeks.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
In another place it says mine is from EHorizon ... Amazon order history says EHorizon, but the email says Simple Health.
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
Is anyone using the wand while on meds or herbs?
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
I take MMS while doing the wand. The herxes are MUCH stronger.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
OOPS... I've been 2 weeks out on vacations and missed this thread. Wonderful that so many people are trying it with me!
I hope you won't blame me for your 25 dollars! It's truly an amazing device, for its price, and for BOOSTING other treatments.
I still have to go back to translating the website, even though it was getting too technical ...
------------ Some answers: 1- shock or not shock, that is the question.
If you feel something like a shock while touching the skin with the wand for a while (not at first contact), I do think you lack electrolytes.
The feeling for me is different than a shock. While rife with electrodes feel exactly like an electrical shock for me (maybe I also lacked electrolytes). Even microcurrent (tens machine) feels like electric shock (but tiny) for me, so I added loads of electrolytes to stand treatment.
My wand, I feel now next to nothing, but maybe I got too used to it.
If you are FAR from your skin, you see SPARKLES even coming out, and it does STING YOUR SKIN. That is the alkalinization method described above.
I use it on lower setting, just because it feels good. If you use the pen-like electrode, you will feel the current more than if you use the mushroom electrode.
SUGGESTION: IF you hate the stinging feeling, turn the wand on when it's ALREADY touching your skin.
2- clay, just take as much as you feel. I would start with a teaspoon a day, then increase as wished. ONe table spoon is still nothing, I suppose, as it is just mud!!
3- BLADDER : lymieloo, have you got bladder infection?
I never had problems there that were solved by the wand, so if you get any results with your bladder, can you tell us? later ?
4- Pick ONE PLACE , as said Sixgkids, to start.
Many places = you lose control on how much you herx.
Remember, you can herx slowly, and only realize 4 days later (I often get these 4 day DELAYED HERX LIKE reaction with the wand, like needing suddenly chlorella for no reason, after using the wand 4 days before). So does my daughter, so really, beware of DELAYED HERXES.
Start slow, one organ in a week, then increase to 2 organs or so next week and so on.
REMEMBER: first treat all your DETOX ORGANs like liver, kidneys, lymph, GI tract, only THEN start treating problem spots.
The LOGIC BEHIND: clean your organs so that they can clean the mess that will come later, when you start treating infections.
If you start too fast, your organs still not clean, you may collapse and go backwards.
5- no dial on mine either. I just do by feeling, I think I'm using the middle potency now. At start, I tried to stick to lowest potency, but the electrode has to LIGHT UP and BUZZ, or there is no treatment I think!!
6- ARgon (violet) or Neon (orange): I started with the neon, but end up buying the argon.
No one knows what you will get before you OPEN the box and try.
I suppose both are nearly the same; my feeling is that the orange is stronger than violet!
7- Sixgkids: so glad you can take /ingest your herbs now!!
Same here, with minerals and supplements. I mean, we don't even NEED them, mostly, as our bodies started ABSORBING them from food. We do eat well though, but even though, before the wand, we needed supplementation.
The most crazy supplement that we had to stop was Vit D3. For ages, we kept needing it. Suddenly, no more, and it has been almost 4 months now!
Even in winter days. And our skin has never been so brownish like this, so fast, with so little sunlight....
Even hubby, total white skin guy, is now brown!!! I don't get it. I even do not do on his face, but his face got tan, not red pepper like usually.
The hormone story above, I do think the wand helps us with hormones, all liquids we excrete (digestion, liver etc)... Vit D is a hormone...
Only time will tell, if other people start using it (as for hypo or hyper thyroidism).
It is not a single therapy, but I do feel confident to say that these high frequencies do BOOST other therapies, supplements.
Exactly like Anuta says: beware taking supplements, killers, as you will feel the boosting effect, meaning, the same supplement feels like got some cryptonite inside... Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
He mentions the difference from an electrical shock and the Violet Ray using Tesla coils.
Interesting info from him: do not take alcohol while using the violet ray.
He said something interesting about opening the cells, making them work better like putting toxins out, and functioning better.
My feeling is that it boosts whatever you take: take nourishment, you will get them in your cells.
Take drugs, they will also get there, probably, or you will feel the damage stronger. In the begining, I felt that eating non-organic made me feel worse.
Now that my detox organs are working better, I do not feel that anymore, but at start, every time I ate out in a restaurant, I didn't feel great.
Some advices by the cayce foundation, on how to use the device according to the visionary cayce.
My attention goes to the comment of one user, that is EXACTLY like I feel it. Here it goes:
'One woman, who was to use the appliance alongside her spine, was told: “This should be applied until there is the feeling of the whole internal forces being electrified.” (264-11)
THIS IS EXACTLY like I feel now. You got to get fully used to the high frequencies to understand this, but that is how I used it for 40 minutes at once couple of days ago.
Now I'm resting from it, as I used till my WHOLE BODY got the feeling of being totally CHARGED from its frequencies, that I was starving for at least 7 days (as hubby took my violet ray home while I stayed on vacations).
Cayce site continues:
'Another woman, after her second series of adjustments, was to use the violet ray “any time after that when there is the feeling of tiredness or languidness.” (1584-1)'
Well, now even my daughter is getting what this means. This is connected to the point above, you feel like CHARGING your batteries, like plugging yourself to an energy source.
I have no doubt about that either. I feel this function very clearly now, after about 4 months playing with the wand.
Enjoy!!!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
A last advice: Tesla wand goes wonderful together with grounding yourself (ex, just keep bare foot on grass for 20-30 minutes).
The two types of energy are like a perfect couple together, I have the strong feeling. I've been doing that more often, after using the Tesla, I go out and work in the garden or just sit and read with barefoot.
Grounding is such a peaceful, recharging, balancing effect to the Tesla coil energy. Like calming the beast of energy inside me, that might have got overcharged with the Tesla coil...
before my Violet Ray, I liked grounding, but not to this extent. It can be almost blissful. Of course, if you are still plagued by disease and infections, you may take some time to feel the full effect of this combined treatment.
Posted by Pebbles (Member # 43614) on :
Well I give up. I ordered two now and they are both wrong. First one I ordered was from Ebay and it was some facial device instead.
The second one I ordered was from the exact link six posted and it was the orange one.
Apparently it just wasn't meant to be for me!!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Hey Pebbles, I started using the orange one, and it is almost the same as the violet one. Just that the orange feels stronger.
Posted by Pebbles (Member # 43614) on :
Oh OK....that's good to know. Thanks Brussels.
I also emailed them. We'll see what happens.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
The link I posted seems to come up with a different vendor every time .... and they say they're violet, so I don't know why they shipped an orange. Weird.
I ordered from the link and got it quickly ... a friend ordered and his hasn't come in yet. I've had mine 3 weeks. :/
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Go figure... I guess the vendor just re-sells devices from other vendors.
The orange is good, I wouldn't give it away. It seems even that it can hold the gas (neon) inside the electrode BETTER than the argon (so I read once).
I can't say, nor compare, as I am only using it for about 4 months... Only time will tell.
Good luck you all!
Posted by Pebbles (Member # 43614) on :
I read on one site.....I can't remember where. That the Violet Ray was for killing viruses and oxygenation and the Orange was for anti-aging. So I'm not sure what that would mean for this and what we need it for.
What would be the benefit for us?
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I read in another place that both act very similarly.
I guess, they are just vectors to transmit high frequency voltage of the Tesla coil, inside the violet ray.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Can people with METAL IMPLATNTS use electrotherapy?
For us, physicians (medical doctors), not all electrical currents are the same. We distinguish between low, middle and high frequencies, consisting of more than 50 types of currents.
Metal implants examples: artificial hip and knee joints, screws, nails, plates used after accidents, wire cables (on the sternum due to a bypass operation), metal clips (eg, gallbladder surgery), etc.
Even older men still have splits of grenades from the Second World War in their bodies!
We chose an electrotherapy that avoids electrolytic effects, vibrations, or concentrated thermal effects on the metallic implants (not in the implant, nor around it). Implants doe not compromise the healing effect of this therapy.
The Zeileis radiofrequency therapy can be done one all metal implants. Except PACE MAKERS.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
The PHYSICS behind the Tesla coil:
How is a frequency generated?
The author describes a Violet Ray mechanism (Brussels: I won't translate it). Very simple.
Electrical impulses are not human invetion: nature offers many examples. Egyptians knew the Malapterurus electricus (an electric catfish). Romans knew another type of electric fish (stingray?).
The electrical organ of an electric eel consists 58% of the body weight of the animal! It produces 2-3ms, 600V, 1A pulses, which are important for attack and defense. ...
The discharge of the device is important: on the top of the glass electrode is the voltage set and slowly increased.
Above a certain starting-voltage, the electrode starts to shine/ glitter, the so-called corona (intensive blue shining aura, around the electrode).
(Brussels: then comes the interesting part!)
With further increase of potency, we can see light-threads formed by UV light. We only see 10 % of it (the rest, 90%, is invisible to our eyes).
Such UV light 'showers' off from the tip of the electrode and make the characteristic hissing sound, a 'brush'-like discharge: numerous light threads restless flicker and ramify from the tip of the glass electrodes.
In the end, the author speaks about a light arc that is created between the electrode and the body, that is hardly seen in day-light.
He says that the therapy is best done in a dark room so that there can be visual control of the amount of 'violet light' passing from the electrode to the body. The intensity of the light-arc is important for the therapy.
At the tip of the electrode, the discharge starts by ionization: the strong field at the tip of the electrode causes air molecules to speed up (in high speed), and then that causes further ionization due to further collisions.
When the air loses its possibility to ionize further, it then shines violet.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
So, there is a lot of UV light coming from it!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
1. Effluvia method: try avoiding radio transmission through direct skin contact (or as closest to skin as possible).
The discharge is concentrated, you can feel the electrical wind or the ionization wind, or some skin pricking, some muscle contraction.
2. Fulguration method: keep the electrode 5 to 10 cm FAR from the body, to get stronger stimulation from the skin and to provoke muscle contraction.
3. if I understood it well, this is done by another type of electrode (possible the metal electrode we see from old devices): the patient keeps that electrode on the body, and the therapist massages the body (the therapist becomes the other electrode).
This 3rd therapy is used to stimulate acupuncture points, trigger points, for treating nerves (I think he meant like something bigger nerve).
They use something they call a Geissler-Rohr. I googled it, and it looks pretty the same as the glass electrodes we are using. The Austrian clinic uses Helium and Neon inside. The patients call it the magic wand.
(Now the MOST important part of this text):
Certain skin areas have different electric behavior. Depending on their behaviour, we can draw conclusions about diseases of internal organs.
By applying the treatment electrode, the patient's body is electrically charged.
Approaching now a Geissler tube to the body, it will give-off more or less intensive (violet) light, according to the electric field resistance of the skin.
The experienced clinician has then a rough overview of skin resistance and conductivity of certain points of the body surface.
He can draw conclusions concerning the state of health of the patient. It should be noted, however, that this method can never replace modern diagnostic measures.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Cool, thanks, Brussels.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
You're welcome, Six.
I tried to use the wand in a new way then. Not very easy to do, though.
I used it about 3cm away from the body (about an inch or so)?
I see no arc forming, but I see the light inside the glass electrode reacts to my body: when I approach the electrode, you see that the violet light goes intenser at the tip of the electrode, meaning, it is transporting the current to my body.
I had to use it in maximum power. The problem is to treat my back, as I can't see the distance between electrode an body.
But it does cause something. Today, particularly, I overslept 3 hours, felt like crap in the morning, very tired, my kidneys were in pain, and I had muscle pains on the neck etc.
I don't know if this was caused by the wand or not, as you BARELY feel anything when you treat this way (from an inch away).
I know it is doing something because of my body's reactions, like gut moving, and I feel relaxed after using it.
The device got very hot though, so I couldn't do very long (longer than 10 minutes).
In the morning, I had to use the wand the normal way (touching the body) to get energy, stop the muscle pains... Then I felt good again.
I 'll keep trying and see what I get as result. I think the way that dr. K's is using this, is by fulguration (far from the body), but I'm not sure this wand can do that or not....
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
I had the first negative reaction after using the wand yesterday. I used it just like I normally do. I think it's also kidney-related like you are saying.
I got really low in electrolytes. I was dizzy and weak. I am in Florida, but I am down here about 30% of the time and haven't had the heat bother me this way previously, so it's not just the heat.
Before I used the light yesterday, I was thiking, "Wow, I feel GREAT!" This kind of retracing/detoxing seems to always happen after that thought, like the body is finally strong enough to do some serious work.
Even with this setback, I still feel better than I had been before using it. My gut was in bad shape causing low ferritin and thyroid, which caused fatigue. I'm getting my energy back.
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Six--When I first started using the wand I had to up my potassium. Haven't had to do that recently.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Hiker, thanks, good to know. As much as I hate how artificial Gatorade is, I resort to it when I'm in a crisis like that (the kind without bromine). It pulled me right out of it. I'll have to up potassium.
I eat a lot of bananas and avocados, but my absorption is not good right now.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Six, sorry to see you are in trouble, and not at home.
I use Himalayan salt as electrolyte solution (I salt water till I feel it is salty) then drink it during the day.
Kidneys: the wand DOES affect my kidneys because of toxins. This is for sure! I take bear garlic plus chlorella when this happens. Symptoms lift very fast if I take the right amount, which somehow prove to me that symptoms were 'just' toxins.
I am much less afraid of my wand now, and I RE APPLY it on my kidneys and liver to help me detox. I swear it helped me many times already.
The more I use the wand, the more I learn new ways of using it, and the less I get afraid of it.
It's been more than 4 months... I hope you feel better soon!
Posted by Pebbles (Member # 43614) on :
Okay...so I finally got the correct Violet Ray wand and thought I would start very slowly. I am super sensitive to most things.
I did it for about 20 seconds on just my palm. I got like this jolt of energy but not really in a good way. I didn't really like the feeling. It was more of a jittery nervous feeling.
I am not really sure if or how to proceed. I am wondering if it would be milder to just do a few seconds on my liver or less time on my palm???
Any thoughts??
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Brussels, thanks for your suggestions. I live part-time in FL so I'm at my home here. Chlorella is no good for me, ART testing showed an allergy to it.
I'm feeling pretty good now. I've been using more salt and eating more starchy carbs, which seem to help me at times like these.
I do use the light over my kidneys. I'm going to take a couple days off from it ... especially since I promised my daughter a trip to Disney on Mon.
Pebbles, I'm not sure. Maybe do the same little bit of time on your liver. Go with your intuition.
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
Scalar "therapy" (rebalancing) exists. I've done it (Sarasota).
Rife is a form of EM therapy.
Scalar is not in the same ball park.
In reality, it is likely the 5th force...
Six...try Swanson's combo of curcumin + berberine.
I promise...! "Refractory" = post abx. syndrome.
BTW...be SURE to take your daughter to "Soarin" in Epcot - get "in line" ASAP!!! If possible, see the singers in the Am. pavilion and Turtle talk with Crush is really funny and you will leave with a smile.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Thank you Marnie, for the super interesting article that talks about Tesla and Tesla coils too.
'At the heart of Cyberscan lies proprietary technology based upon a modified Tesla flat coil, which has the capacity to produce "longitudinal" or ...
...."scalar" impulses that can receive and transmit information through solid metal containers (Faraday Cages), travel long distances without any loss of power, as well as produce "over-unity" gains of energy.
Tesla Coils are not myth, but established facts that have been replicated countless times by researchers, engineers, and scientists around the world.
One such scientist is Prof. Konstantin Meyl from the University of Applied Sciences in Furtwangen, Germany.
He has experimentally confirmed the above mentioned properties of Tesla Coils, and has demonstrated his setups many times.
Additionally, he has published a number of books and papers detailing how they work. Another researcher in the field of Tesla Coils is Eric Dollard, an absolute expert in the fields of electronics, antenna design, and radio.
He built many systems utilizing Tesla's technology, and has verified Tesla's claims.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I'm not sure what that all means, but a Tesla coil can produce a funny type of impulses that vary in cycles...
And that these impulses can continue operating when the coil is OFF, because it IMPRINTS salty water...
And then, how such impulses cross solid metal barriers as though they did not exist (like going directly inside your brain, as though you had no skull), or cleaning harder metal parts of an airplane....
Or in the example above, crossing a Faraday cage (solid metal containers) without any loss of power...
Whatever this type of energy brings, it is a very strange phenomena. Scalar impulse, whatever the name... It does seem that physics still didn't understand exactly what happens in a Tesla coil...
As I said, Tesla was a visionary, and followed his visions (and his knowledge) to make his inventions.
Either a Tesla coil kills you or heals you!!! Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Pebbles: first time, it DOESN'T FEEL GOOD.
I swear, it doesn't. You feel bad. The thing looks like harming you.
I would just do it slow. Then GROUND YOURSELF for 30 minutes a day, if you can. Then take electrolytes, daily, until you get used to it.
Some people react too strong to it. You could try the method 3cm away from your body (about an inch) and see if it feels better? I'm new on that, but I think it does make some effect too.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Six, glad you are feeling already better. It looks innocent, but my daughter now says that that wand has a nail from God inside. That's her own words, whatever she means with that.
Just go slow!! And I hope you have a good day with your daughter!
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Pebbles--I echo Brussels, go slow.
I used the wand once a week from March to May on lymph nodes, kidney and liver.
I used it twice last week but just for 30 seconds on the abdomen as well as the organs listed above.
Still feel the effects of the detox a week later and it is not pleasant.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Marnie, thanks for the advice. I know she wants to go to the Hollywood Studios, but she hasn't decided whether for the second day she wants to go to Magic Kingdom or Epcot. We're only staying 2 days. We can always go back another time, we're down here a lot.
I'm still drinking lots of coconut water and being very careful in the heat. I still feel my electrolytes are off a bit. I get a lot of grounding here, we go to the beach every day.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Guys I'm on another trip with the wand now.
I think it's like having two devices in one. My new experiment is on letting the wand away from the body (about 2 inches, or 5cm or more).
When you are in total dark, and you approach the electrode, you can SEE the light INSIDE the electrode moving to the tip. I do that with the mushroom electrode.
So the impulses do change and charge my body from far away, really, at least about 2 inches far.
The impression, at first, is as if nothing is happening. Let the wand there, and move it slowly in front of your abdomen, and you will FEEL what it is doing.
It is still charging the body, and it feels MUCH better than if you touch with the electrode.
My abdomen did the same strange noises it does, very strong, and I was not even touching my body. If I run the electrode AROUND my head, not touching it, but from a distance, i do feel the treatment going on.
It feels very good on the neck (I disliked touching with the electrode on my thyroide gland), but from far, it feels very good. Besides, I feel I can do the treatment even faster.
I do think it goes deep inside, but only time will tell. My arthritic thumb reacts BETTER to the electrode being FAR than touching the skin. It got now almost 100%, I feel. Let's see if it will stay.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Institut Zeileis (Austria): some cool photos of devices they use in that clinic, all inspired by Tesla.
"An Italian experiment has unveiled evidence that fundamental particles known as neutrinos can travel faster than light." 2011.
Some scientists call them "ghost" particles.
"We’re awash in neutrinos. They’re among the lightest of the two dozen or so known subatomic particles and they come from all directions: from the Big Bang that began the universe, from exploding stars and,
most of all, from the sun.
They come straight ***through the earth*** at nearly the speed of light, all the time, day and night, in enormous numbers.
About 100 trillion neutrinos pass through our bodies every second."
Neutrinos travelling -> speed of light = scalar wave
Neutrinos slowing down to exactly the speed of light = photons
Neutrinos slowing down to below the speed of light = electrons.
"We know that the clocks in rocket ships run at a different rate than those on planet earth because the
speed changes time.
Einstein said that if we travelled *at the speed of light* for 30 years, when we returned we would be
the same age as when we left.
This has been proven mathematically,
although we still have no technology that can actually stop time and space."
At the speed of light - time stops?
Scalar waves/neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light = time reverses?
At the speed of light (neutrino -> photon therapy?) = time stands still?
Slower than the speed of light (neutrino -> electrons) = time goes forward (aging)?
Could scalar therapy actually do this:
Time-reverse diseased, damaged or aged cells back to an earlier healthy condition, including all the cellular genetics. Normal cells are just reversed to a slightly younger condition.
I think I need to make some more appointments! ;-)
Braking the speed of light barrier = "warp 1" for sci-fi lovers.
God just did it on a much bigger scale!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Hiker, it may be even stronger this way. Just ask your healer and try for yourself.
The Austrian clinic articles I'm trying to translate here in this thread say they use a 'magic wand', talk about Tesla coils, high frequencies. I don't know exactly which device they use, but they also use glass electrodes.
They suggest to keep it far (I initially thought, just a few milimeters, so a cotton tissue would do it), but after reading another part of their internet site, I realized they were talking about 10 cm! It means, about 3 inches, if my counting is good...
But they see changes in the light that comes from the wand.
10cm is quite a lot for my little Tesla wand! Well, my wand at 10cm does not show any change in the light. But when I get to about 5 cm (1.5 inches), I see the light INSIDE the electrode changing, reacting to my body.
That is what I did. 5cm away. Initially, you think you feel nothing. Well, let it sit there for a while, and you may feel. I know it is doing something because when I use it over my abdomen, I get the same unbelievable noises, liquids moving, my intestine moves and anyone in the same room can SEE and LISTEN to it.
So it does act inside my body at that distance.
If you keep doing it this way, you will get to feel it better, and feel how deep it goes. Doing on the face or on top of the head may be easier to feel.
The Austrian clinic say that this type of treatment (from far) alkalinize the body. The close contact, acidify the body.
dr. K. says that the body needs to be ACID to be able to detox. Being alkaline the whole time is not a good idea, because of that.
But there are many benefits of getting alkaline too. So I think it would be a good idea to treat the body in both ways. One day from far, another day on skin, or something like that.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Marnie many thanks again.
I'm reading your sites, slowly, as it takes me time to digest the new information.
Then in the 1889 Nikola Tesla (a prolific experimental physicist and inventor of AC) threw a proverbial wrench in the works when he discovered experimental proof for the elusive electric scalar wave.
This seemed to suggest that SW/LW (scalar wave, or longitudinal wave), opposed to TW (transversal wave), could propagate as pure electric waves or as pure magnetic waves.
Tesla also believed these waves carried a hitherto-unknown form of excess energy he referred to as “radiant”.
This intriguing and unexpected result was said to have been verified by Lord Kelvin and others soon after.
------------------------------- Brussels: maybe that type of radiant energy that we feel with Tesla coils / Tesla wand ?? -------------------------------
SW/LW (Scalar waves) in free space however are quite real.
Beside Tesla, empirical work carried out by Electrical Engineers such as Eric Dollard, Konstantin Meyl, Thomas Imlauer, and Jean-Louis Naudin (to name only some) have clearly demonstrated their existence experimentally.
These waves seem able to exceed the speed of light, pass through EM shielding (aka Faraday Cages), ....
....and produce over-unity (more energy out than in) effects.
They seem to propagate in a yet unacknowledged counter-spatial dimension (aka hyper-space, pre-space, false-vacuum, Aether, implicit order, etc.).
----------------------------------- Brussels: wow, this is so interesting. They produce MORE energy OUT that what went IN!!!
Remember my post in the first thread: I had that clear feeling that, while everyone else around me has to take their energy from breathing and eating, I felt I HAD ANOTHER SOURCE OF EXTRA ENERGY: my TESLA WAND!
To me, this is so clear today. And just read other posts, from other people outside lymenet.
Some people just use the wand when they feel tired and need an energy boost!
I also said somewhere else that I felt like LOADING my BATTERIES, the same way I load my MP3 player. I load myself with my Tesla coil!!!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Continuing, same website above:
Because the concept of an all pervasive, material Ether was discarded by most scientists,...
.... the thought of vortex-like electric and/or magnetic waves existing in free space, without the support of a viscous medium, was thought to be impossible.
However later experiments carried out by Dayton Miller, Paul Sagnac, E.W. Silvertooth, ...
and others have contradicted the findings of Michelson & Morley.
More recently Italian Mathematician-Physicist Daniele Funaro, American Physicist-Systems Theorist Paul LaViolette, and British Physicist Harold Aspden ...
....have all conceived of (and mathematically formulated) models for a free space Ether that is dynamic, fluctuating, self-organizing, and allows for the formation & propagation of SW/LW.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Brussels: This fact that such waves travel without a physical support is possibly the reason why such waves cannot be shielded. (?)
Not by Faraday cages, not by thick materials... The waves simply cross everything.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
All our technical achievements and knowledge are not enough to explain how the human body and biology in general manage their energetic and informational tasks.
Obviously they (the body) handle this more efficiently than our technology is able to.
When biological systems violate the law of energy conservation, as can be observed at migratory birds which travel enormous distances ...
... without losing weight corresponding to the energy they spend,
... or the fish that continuously swim against the current or
... even in the process of photosynthesis that can’t be reproduced by technical means,
... everything indicates that energy is ABSORBED FROM THE ENVIRONMENT, for example from the pervasive neutrino radiation.
Neither have we understood the biological information technology.
It simply works in a different way than what physics and communications engineering teach us.
Without doubt the action potential of a NERVE CONDUCTOR consists of electric signals which can be measured at the NERVE ENDINGS.
An ELECTRIC current flow does not occur because there is no return conductor.
And it CAN NOT be an electromagnetic wave due to the lack of antennae structures.
(Brussels: he means, I think, that what flows in our NERVES is NOT ELECTRIC, nor ELECTROMAGNETIC!!).
Furthermore it is well-known to vibrate transversally, while the nodes of Ranvier indicate that a longitudinal wave is transmitted here.
(Brussels: his English is a bit bad, but I think he means that what runs INSIDE our nerves is a longitudinal wave, meaning SCALAR wave).
In acoustics the corresponding standing waves are depicted as Kundt’s dust figures.
As the distance between the nodes of a musical instrument generates a certain tone, it can only be an electrical longitudinal wave with the corresponding wave length that is passed through the nerves.
--------------------------------- Brussels: if I understood well, he says that what we carry in our nerves that conduct impulses is not electromagnetic waves (which are transversal waves) but SCALAR WAVES, of the same type present in Tesla coils!!
If it is so, the Austrian clinic is probably very right: they say that these electrodes we are using are transmitting the impulses (in this case, scalar waves) to the organs!
And they speak the same language: I mean, we are giving to the nerves impulses (waves) that are of their same kind: scalar waves!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
NEUTRINO POWER AND THE EXISTENCE OF SCALAR WAVES, by Prof. Meyl.
Prof. Meyl talked about Tesla`s scalar wave transmitter in Colorado Springs, Colorado in 1899.
Tesla transmitted energy 26 miles at velocities greater than light.
Tesla measured the resonance of the Earth at 12 Hz.
The Schumann resonance of the Earth is 7.8 Hz.
Meyl shows how one can calculate the scalar wave of the Earth to be 1.54 times the speed of light.
Meyl presented a model that ties the expansion of the earth to be the result of the earth`s absorption of neutrino energy.
The ramifications of this model are that NEUTRINO ENERGY CAN BE TAPPED.
He took this the next step and postulated that Zero Point Energy is neutrino power - ENERGY FROM THE FIELD; available at ANYTIME, and EVERYWHERE present.
To show the place of neutrinos in conventional science, Meyl noted that the 2002 Nobel Physics prize was in regards to work on neutrinos. (it was won by M. Koshiba and Raymond Davis).
Meyl quoted a 1898 New York Times statement by Tesla that establishes Tesla, the "father of free energy" as also the discoverer of the neutrino.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Thought I'd post to let you know I'm reading along. Brussels, thank you for posting all this, very interesting.
Marnie, the line for Soarin' was 2 1/2 - 3 hours long the entire day we were there. We couldn't get a fast pass. Next time we go, I'll get the fast pass in advance.
I've been using the wand for about a month now and my gut seems to be doing well (I'll be retested next week) and I have normal energy again. I spent 2 days at Disney World with a 17 year old and got no more tired than she did.
Also, I've been in Florida all month. I have blonde hair, blueish eyes ... I'm careful with the sun, but usually make a mistake and get at least a slight burn at some point. I never use sunscreen, I just time myself and avoid mid-day. Two days at Disney, no sunscreen, no avoidance, and not even my nose or my shoulders got burned. Also, it's 95 degrees here, feels like 109, and didn't have any trouble with that either.
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
IceCube is a gigantic ultra-high energy cosmic neutrino detector in Antarctica. These neutrinos have energies between 10-100 times higher than the protons (+) colliding at the Large Hadron Collider, and their origin and nature are largely a mystery. One thing that IceCube can tell us about these neutrinos is their flavor composition.
The 3 types of neutrinos apparently can switch from one form to the other.
12/2014:
In a new paper accepted by the journal Astroparticle Physics, Robert Ehrlich, a recently retired physicist from George Mason University, claims that the neutrino
If neutrinos have mass (albeit a very small mass) and if they are tachyons...
it makes sense. Slower than light speed, at light speed, faster than light speed. Another way of looking at this is future, present, past.
Is the speed of light the "stop" time point, before time reverses at higher speeds?
If you look at the sign/symbol for infinity (the #8 sideways) is the middle - the speed of light/the change direction point?
If you map this out on a "clock" drawing...on the right, east = counter-clockwise = 432 (frequency of light)and on the direct opposite = 8,9,10 - clockwise. From light to darkness to light to...
When talking about light, I always think about this statement:
"There are but multiples of three in all My universe." (Quote from a book titled: The Secret of Light.)
If the Tesla wave is a longitudinal stationary bidirectional wave...2102 PubMed titled abstract =
DNA and cell resonance: magnetic waves enable cell communication.
"DNA generates a longitudinal wave that propagates in the direction of the magnetic field vector....
With this first introduction of the
magnetic scalar wave,
it becomes clear that such a wave is suitable to use genetic code chemically stored in the base pairs of the genes and electrically modulate them, so as to "piggyback" information from the cell nucleus to another cell.
At the receiving end, the reverse process takes place and the transported information is converted back
into a chemical structure.
The necessary energy required to power the chemical process is provided by the magnetic scalar wave itself.
Tesla cars run on direct current batteries. There are FREE (always) charging stations now around the country. (We are fortunate to have a Tesla store in Sarasota. They are amazing cars.)
It wasn't until late in his career that he discovered neutrinos.
Sunlight is the ultimate free power source. We've just made a far greater collector "cloth". It is graphene = a one atom sheet of carbons all linked together.
That should come as no surprise. Think about how a black asphalt driveway "captures" the energy of the sunlight on a hot summer day.
Those of you on a ketogenic diet...heads up...read the above link.
BTW...sitting in the room exposed to (supposedly) Tesla waves, was very relaxing and rejuvenating and not painful at all.
Fascinating stuff!!!
Posted by gz (Member # 43818) on :
Wow, what fantastic info being posted here, I'm still reading along as well!
Thank you Brussels and Marnie for the work and research you are putting into this!
Thank you for the heads up on keto and delta waves Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
OK, Marnie, let me some time to breathe!
I'm a bit busy these days, and also finally sunny here in Switzerland, so enjoying the weather out.
Salty water burning like fuel??
Do you think our DNAs, that produce scalar waves, are reacting to Tesla coils scalar waves?
I wonder if I am not going to wake up tomorrow a cockroach....
------------------------------------------- SIXGK: I know what you mean by the sunlight and tan. For some reason, my daughter got the same effect.
I think it has to do with absorption of zinc, but it could be other things. One of the KPU symptoms is white skin, China doll kids.
Before summer came, before even sun came, my daughter's skin turned to tan color, her cheek rosy. It was mysterious to me.
But when I saw she was finally ABSORBING zinc, and VIT D3 started testing negative, somehow, I know that the wand was doing something to her.
It changes the way cells work. It either improves nutrition absorption, or gives energy to the cell so it can do whatever it couldn't before (detox, and absorption of nutrients).
How can she finally get D3 from food or from whatever thin sunrays so suddenly, when it was still cold?
How can the color of the skin change so much, so fast?
We take Vit D3 for about 8 years or so. In the last 5 years, it was a religious ritual to us: we took it almost every single day. It always tested good, and we felt better with it.
But her skin was not tan, was still white.
And hubby is white skinned, green eyes. His skin is also pretty tan too!!! No sunscreen either. And he rarely uses the wand on his face. He uses basically only on his legs (due to eczema).
I guess, no matter where you use the wand, it will cross anything anyway...
It is an amazing thing, to see both skin colors change so much.
As for the extra energy, enjoy it!! I know exactly what you mean!!
One thing I found out: it brings nothing to overdo. It seems, like a battery, we have a point that we get full of the Tesla wand (probably of scalar waves or neutrino radiation?).
Once you reach the point you get full, you do not get anything if you overload. Nothing positive comes out from overloading. It even feels bad.
At the same time, if you are down with that 'neutrino' energy, you can tap into the wand much longer than 10 minutes. Really like charging a battery!! That is just my experience, not based on what other people recommend (they recommend maximum 10 min a day).
I did up to 30 min, but then avoided it the next day(s). When I craved my wand, I did that!!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Nikola Tesla is the father of the modern age. His inventions of radio, remote controlled devices, alternating current, and induction motors (among many others), paved the way for modern civilization.
Yet other of his inventions barely saw the light of day, despite their tremendous potential.
Such a severely under utilized technology is his wireless energy transmission techniques.
By producing scalar (longitudinal) waves, he could achieve superluminal (faster than light) communication, send signals through any material including Faraday cages, ...
... and wirelessly beam power to receivers. Researchers like Steve Jackson provide hope that by open sourcing Tesla's work, scalar wave transmission can proliferate and positively benefit the world.
-------- SCALAR WAVE PROPERTIES
You might be wondering what in the world is a scalar wave! It's actually pretty simple.
Unlike a transverse wave (like an ordinary radio or light wave) a scalar wave's amplitude does not fluctuate up and down.
Instead, try to visualize it more like a vibration of electric potential expanding and contracting in the direction of propagation.
Scalar waves are also often called "Tesla Waves" or "Longitudinal Waves."
All of these terms refer to the same type of wave which oscillates in the direction of propagation instead of perpendicular to the direction of movement.
These waves have many unique properties which have been tested and confirmed repeatedly.
1) They are capable of PENETRATING ANY SOLID OBJECT including Faraday Cages.
You can put a transmitter in a box of thick metal and a receiver outside of the box will receive the scalar wave frequency you are pulsing.
The potential here is for a transmitter that can penetrate any obstacle or perhaps communicate directly through the Earth from one side of the globe to the other.
2) They are capable of superluminal travel.
These waves are claimed NOT to be electromagnetic, but composed of PURE POTENTIAL ENERGY.
Due to this, the speed of light limit does not apply to them. T
he propagation speed of a scalar wave has been measured as FASTER than the SPEED OF LIGHT and thought by some researchers to be potentially of infinite velocity.
3) They are capable of TRANSMITTING POWER.
It can then be put to use powering motors, lights, vehicles, etc.
4) A scalar transmitter can wirelessly send power to a receiver THROUGH ANY OBSTACLE.
...
5) During the process of transmission and reception they can MAGNIFY POWER.
You can input a certain quantity of power into a scalar wave transmitter and yet the receiver can receive SEVERAL TIMES THE POWER.
6) Transmitters and receivers can communicate.
7) A conventional transverse wave transmitter cannot sense if a receiver has "tuned in."
However, in a scalar system the transmitter and receiver interact because they are in a STATE OF RESONANCE.
As you can see Scalar Waves hold many potential applications for communication, energy, and other applications.
To mimic a commercial for a popular brand of cell phone, "Scalar Waves do what Transverse waves don't."
They are fast, penetrating, connected, and can broadcast magnified power. These waves are begging to be utilized!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I found this video of 1 hour, where Prof. Meyl speaks (in German) about MEDIA CENSORSHIP IN SCIENCE!
He speaks in the Anti Censorship Coalition 2013. See how many people in the conference!
So, not only in the medical field, also in pure science, there is a strong censorship.
He said that the reason for that is very easy to understand: science is ruled by financial interests, it is not free. (min 3)
At the time of Tesla, no one was willing to pay him to develop a free-energy project: who would profit financially from it?
At 6.53 he said, as a Prof of energy techniques, he can speak about inventions of Nikola Tesla (like assyncro-motor), but he was not allowed to mention the inventor by his name!!
He received a written letter by the rector saying he was not allowed to talk about the inventor, only of his inventions!
That goes against Article 5, German law, that says that research and science shall be free.
So the censorship on Tesla is still FULLY ACTIVE still today, in the academic world.
He finds it hard to get financial support to his scalar energy research. The industry (at 11.20) is not interested at all. Politicians neither.
12.3: he said that there was a clear BLOCKADE of research on the biological effects of EMFs (ex, from handy phones), so that NO research is allowed to go on that sense!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Scalar Waves and Information technology in the Medical field 2015 conference from Prof. Meyl.
7.20 He speaks about how he proposes a model for cell communication. He sent that model to a nobel prize winner (he won the prize for researching a virus).
10.20. Experiments to fix broken bones, and cancer cells (done in Heidelberg in 2012).
11.13. Cancer cells talk to each other, through scalar waves. Like cell phone talk. Healthy cells also talk to each other. But cancer cells cannot talk to healthy cells, and that is why they degenerate.
12.08. They killed the cancer cells in one container in an experiment. Next day, the other cancer cells in the other container were dead too (as though they received the communication about death from the other container) (!)
-------------- (Brussels: I know other researchers were talking about photon communication between cells, for a long time, as dr. Klinghardt already said...
And I'm sure this is true and already in use here and there through homeopathy and photon treatment, as that is exactly how I made my borrelia dormant... with photon information ONLY.) ------------
12.15. pharma industry does not interest on this research, as it brings them no money.
Before, prof. Meyl speaks about the possibilites of killing cancer cells just by transmitting messages to the cells, from outside the body of the patient. But research has to be done. No money, no research....
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
I've always tanned well for a blonde, but it's unusual for me to not at least get a little red on my nose, chest and shoulders. It does seem to offer some protection.
I have read previously that if we detoxed well and had proper nutrients to detox, we wouldn't burn because the body could handle the oxidizing. That makes some sense, too, especially in my case where I did tan, but usually after burning a little.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Oh, about broken bones ....
I have a friend who had a hairline fracture in her hand that would not heal. After many months they were talking about what kind of treatment to do and I suggested using my Bionic 880. She used it every day for about 20 minutes and after a few weeks it was healed.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Yes, it's amazing, isn't it? Now we are using again the PE1 as all my Tesla wands are borrowed...
Infrared is also wonderful, in those 880nm frequencies.
Wait a bit longer, we'll try to combine the two!
I wonder what is the relation between the two, as both treatments seem to do about the same things.
I was reading about prof. Meyl and how cells communicate with such scalar waves. I guess that infrared is not scalar, but normal transversal waves.
If cells communicate through scalar waves, and not EM waves (non transversal), how could my infrared transmit the message of the borrelia nosodes?
Good points on detox and oxidation. We also didn't get red, despite being under strong midday sun. Hubby got red though, a bit, but not as usual (he is the type : sun bath = red skin than peeling off).
No peeling off, so far. He's now horse riding EVERY SINGLE DAY, mornings and afternoons, intensive training in England. He had a TENDINITIS attack Sunday, before his classes began.
Tesla wand + magnesium + one pain killer on Sunday = that is all he did. He didn't miss one single class, so far. He said his tenditinis is practically gone.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
That's great! Not getting sunburned in England .... he must be really pale if that's a worry, lol. Just kidding!
I think a big part of the photon treatment was the vibrations. On the Bionic I used the 11.77 hz, and one of the articles said 12 hz was the earth's vibration. Dr. W felt being close to the earth vibration was important.
That's why a walk on the beach or other grounding helps so much.
Also, my understanding was the nosodes and the infrared did two different things. The nosodes transmitted their own energy while the photons separately did its work. Dr. W didn't want us handling the nosodes AT ALL if we weren't using the Bionic because he felt the nosodes were dangerous without it.
I had an acquaintance with Lyme come to my house. He had been to Germany but wasn't sure how to follow up treatment and stopped so he got worse. A year later and he didn't even have nosodes. I had extra, and I set them down in front of his wife and father who had brough him to my house (he lives 4 hours away).
He leaned forward and picked them up and immediately felt bad, so set them back down.
It seems that the photons are light and are powerful. I think of the scalar as more like electricity ... static ... the way it comes to the end of the tube when you touch it like static in the winter.
All this makes me realize there is so much more to sun exposure than just vitamin D. Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I think, what the doctors of the Zeileis Institute are using, is something like shown in this website above.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Dr. Meyl just WROTE to me!!!
He answered my email. I'll let you know the content if I understand it better.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Oh good, I'll look forward to hearing!
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I'm waiting for his second reply. First one, he says that photon from infrared also emit scalar waves as photons behave both like matter (particle) and wave (if I understood well).
That is how infrared photons can be used as a carrier of information.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Interesting. I'm finding that I get benefit from both. Maybe it's the different ways I use them, but I seem to get different benefits from each.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
You are right Six. They are very different... At least, the effects. I can't say one is better or worse.
I guess, like other treatments, the more you get things that do good to you, the best.
I see them as complementary. Like you need minerals, but also proteins, and also carbs. You can't say, one is better. At a moment, one is better, the other less good. Next moment, it's the opposite.
I'm fighting a bladder / kidney infection. Too hot here, forgot drinking enough water.... Still I'm detoxing due to the wand, my urine was darker before this all started.
Still didn't drink enough, and yesterday my kidneys were in pain, I got fever, then I felt the bladder infection in the evening.
It's been years without bladder infection. I usually take abx on these occasions (bactrim or so), but just because I feel too bad to think of any protocol on my own.... Last time it happened during vacations, I had no choice.
Well, I tested Sanum nosodes, nothing came positive. Then tested MMS, came positive.
Well, I am on 15 drops MMS.
Yesterday I had fever!! I was freezing despite the heat wave here in Europe.
Well, I feel better after 2 doses of MMS. I mean, total 30 drops in less than 12 hours. That is massive (for me, that used to react with 1/2 drop MMS during lyme), but I feel next to nothing.
Which is good! It means, I have barely any infection in other places!! I mean 30 drops in the last 12 hours...
Now, about 18 hours since I started MMS + 1 hour or Tesla wand for the kidney /bladder pain + 30 min of infrared just to try to relax... I feel I'm coming back.
I'm so glad I do not have to rush down the doctor to get bactrim. First, it destroys my gut, makes me in bad mood. MMS feels like baby tea... I wonder why, I used to hate it too as it made me so sick.
Guys, the wand! I'm not herxing from anything, so far. Nothing, no increased pain, I just feel relaxed (yesterday, I got again anxiety. I know feels exactly like with active lyme...)
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
A few years ago I got a kidney infection when I was doing a lot of detoxing and advanced Pilates. I always blamed it on getting rid of toxins too quickly.
Then with the wand, I felt like I did a day or two before my kidney infection. I got really dehydrated despite drinking a lot of fluids.
I got some Gatorade (the kind without bromine) and drank it for 2 days, then switched to coconut water after that. I find when I'm battling dehydration or when it's really hot, I need something with sugar in it or I don't stay hydrated. Water is not enough.
I kept hydrating, then waited until I felt better before I used the wand again.
It is possible to go too quickly and end up overwhelming the detox organs. I'm doing fine now. Still drinking a lot.
I hope you continue to feel better!!
Posted by Carmen (Member # 42391) on :
MMS can almost always knock a kidney and bladder infection out. Its also good for stress incontinence... which tells me that stress incontinence is likely caused by a low level infection.
MMS has also reversed the need to go onto dialysis for some folks.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Carmen, thank you for the information. I was doubting MMS could hit this alone, but it is doing its job well. I find it amazing that I can take so many drops at once, without ANY side effects!!??
It works less fast than abx (like Bactrim), but it is clearly working.! Thanks for saying that.
I think next time I go on vacations, I will pack MMS and the wand then!!! -------------------
Six, thanks for the tip on sugar in water. I am craving a bit of sugar drinks (so I'm adding two teaspoons of sugar in one liter of cold tea).
So, you also had the infection! I never had kidney infection in my life, only bladder.
This time, I had real pain on my kidneys & bladder. Now all the pain is gone, with the MMS. I still have the infection though, but much smaller.
I never took MMS for such infections. It is slower than abx, but my tummy is reacting well, energy is back, I went swimming last 2 days in the lake.
I always got darker urine with the wand since start. It's been more than 4 months.
I guess hot weather and little drinking + dark urine due to wand = kidney infection. I'll be more careful now, certainly.
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What is also happening to me is a bit gross, but for women with trouble in the uterus / ovary, I think I have to say that...
As I said, my body went in detox mode after the wand, like it never did before. Never did I detox well through urine or through liver (stools). Liver was my worst organ according to many people I saw.
With the wand, things are much different: no more liver pain, and detoxing through urine. And now, I'm detoxing through my periods!!! I am truly detoxing!
I remember during lyme, I asked the naturopath about that, and she told me: when the body is too toxic, it will try to detox in any way: through sweat, through stools, through urine, through mucus, through menstrual blood, through vaginal discharges, through skin whatever it finds to put toxins out.
Well, I don't feel too toxic like during lyme or active candidiosis, but I am detoxing badly through bleeding.
It happened lightly before, during periods (smell was stronger). but, I didn't think it was due to detoxing.
But now, it's amazing what's coming out. It feels like I opened a little tap, and I'm tossing the garbage out.
My energy and mood are good, appetite too. I had many fibroids in the uterus. Long ago, I had policystic ovaries too (somehow healed with reflex massage, but left scars).
I guess many women suffer from uterus problems, as most women I know take the uterus off later in life.
Well, I am hoping the toxins come out from my uterus and that it slowly heals.
I had no real symptoms, really, only during pregnancy (as the fibroids got HUGE, and soooo painful, that is why I couldn't deliver my baby naturally, but only through C-section).
Now that I am doing more wand on my bladder, well, I guess I'm treating both uterus and bladder.... And I swear, it is a bit scary. Any normal person would rush to the doctor (and the doctor would certainly think there is something wrong, I'm certain).
I keep testing myself, and I feel good (I worked the whole day today, physically, no stop, really, I'm still fine now).
I think this is just one more trick the wand is playing on me. It tests: 'detoxing my uterus'.
I ask about ovaries: no. Infection: no. Fibroids being dissolved: no. Toxins coming out: yes.
Just writing that for anyone who may have the unpleasant experience, without knowing what it is. I wonder if other women are having the same issues.
The smell looks like infection, but I feel just nothing like infection. All ART tests I do, I'm fine there.
Anyway. I'm glad the MMS may do its job till the end, and that it causes me zero side effects, so far. When I ask, where it is acting in my body: I get 3 places: bladder, kidneys and small intestine.
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Brussels, I don't know that it got infected this time, I had a kidney infection a few years ago (the only one I had ever had) and started to have symptoms from the wand.
Back when I had the infection, I had pretty severe dehydration, so they pushed fluids in an IV. I had an IV for four days and pushed two of those days. That was why I upped the fluids when I started the symptoms. I figured I needed to flush it out.
Still going well with me. I use it 3-4 times per week.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Great Six. It can be a bit addictive, I find. I catch myself enjoying my wand session so much that I can't turn it off. I'm doing MUCH more than 10 minutes a day, but not every day, and with middle intensity (it never buzzes too much).
I thought you had the kidney infection now. So it means, you felt some kidney symptoms with the wand? Like kidneys achy? Dark urine?
I have been having achy kidneys since I started the wand, but I can usually control that with binders... This time, it didn't work. Infection is under control with MMS. I am going swimming every day, so far, so good (energy, no more fever, barely any pain).
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
No, the kidney infection 3 years ago is when my gut got infected with c diff that I've had ever since then. I have no idea how I could have it for this long, but that is why my gut is so unbalanced.
I started feeling the severe dehydration symptoms with the wand that were my first symptoms when I had the kidney infection 3 yrs ago. And other symptoms that I can't really put into words .... like a fog, but not like Lyme fog, fatigue, and light headedness. Intolerance to noise, which was a huge kidney infection symptom for me and confusion. I know it sounds like any infection, but it was specifically how I felt when I ended up in the hospital for 4 days with infected kidneys. It was a distinct feeling that I can't use words to describe.
Rehydrating got me to avoid infection this time. It took a couple weeks to flush them out of all the toxins.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
OK, so people out there using the wand: if your urine gets too dark, lower the time of treatment and drink tons of water, electrolytes!!!!
thanks for saying that, Six. I notice that my mouth gets dry after using the wand. And that my urine turned darker after using it too. I didn't change much my drinking habit, but now I'm drinking like hell. Really a lot, like I never did before in my whole life.
Not only because I know it is good, and because it is very very hot. But because now I realize I do not feel bad after cold water. I'm drinking cold water for the first time in my life! I always refused cold water, as it cooled my body.
I remember being 7 years old and refusing to drink cold water and sodas. I refused them, literally, and started cooking my own teas very early in life. Even in tropical Brazil!!
Now I do not feel washed out with so much water, like before. I guess that my cells had no minerals in, and refused to let me drink. I felt bad drinking liquids, and rather avoided drinking my whole life.
Now that I think I am getting nourishment in my cells, I feel really great drinking, sweating. I'm doing cold teas every single day, and stopped drinking warm drinks for the moment.
I can't remember one single week in my life that I didn't drink hot teas (recently coffee too). That is a first, ever.
Dr. K. says that drinking a lot of water is good for some people, but for others, you simply dump all your minerals off if you drink more than what you need.
he's really not for that drinking water in gallons theory for everyone.
I went swimming again in the lake, my skin got soft. I can see that not all my bad skin from my feet have gone out (as some parts got too white, like excessively white). It means, I haven't yet peeled off everything there.
OMG, how can someone peel off so much?
When I take shower and rub my body with my hands, I feel I'm peeling off MUCH more than I EVER did. I'm talking about whole body!
Has anyone getting that sort of peeling off effect? The skin that comes, despite so much water, showers, soaps, is still shining, oily mostly.
I'm not peeling off sun tan, as I can notice it happening on my chest, breasts, abdomen, more than on my back (that is really sun tanned now).
I was just wondering, what a body does when it gets what it needs (I do feel these electrons I'm getting as nutrition)!!!!
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
Above my knees I had thicker skin that was rough. It seems to be softening and thinning out to a more normal level.
I'm always careful to drink enough or I get UTIs. When I was in FL I was drinking more because it's hot, but I don't think Ohio has realized it's summer yet.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
The kidney and bladder infection is much better, but MMS is not knocking it totally off.
Today, first time, it didn't test anymore. I took it anyway, and in fact, it didn't make any effect anymore (i feel a bit of pain during urination). No more kidney pains like before, no more fever, but I know the infection is here due to darker urine despite drinking gallons, and because of pain.
I re-tested my boxes of medicine, as I am stubborn and want to avoid abx. There were 2 products testing, one Polysan D (kind of magic Sanum treatment for certain conditions), and Ledum C30 (a killer, in homeopathic dilution).
I asked: is this enough? No. Well, I added the wand, 6 minutes on the bladder, plus about 6 minutes on the kidneys.
Now I ask: Infection? And I come with a 'no', which means, for me, that I am hitting the infection...
The wand, these days, makes me TOTALLY sleepy, as I do it before bedtime. I am fighting to keep my eyes open. It is like taking an injection of sleeping pills.
In the beginning, this wand could even make me anxious. Go figure....
Let's see if I can knock the infection down till the end with Ledum and the wand...
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Perhaps the wand is contributing to the problem. Perhaps take a break from it. The energy healer told me the wand helps my organs but too much irritates them.
Perhaps the same thing is happening to you. She told me to wait several weeks before using it again.
When I tested myself energetically I kept getting a "yes" for the wand to be used, but in reality I should have taken a break from it. Sometimes when something has worked so well, the emotions make the energy testing not valid.
Just a thought.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
I guess I'm still not ready to let it go... It's about the only thing that is helping me to keep most infections dormant.
I did 3 pauses with it (because I didn't have the wand with me). After day 10, my candida came back slowly, fatigue again...
When I stopped for 7 days, it was still fine, but kind of declining in energy... Again, I felt like my body craved those electrons.
It feels for me almost like food. I crave it, like I feel hungry.
I'm afraid of massive jawbone infections coming back, plus skin and GI candida, and then my life goes in hell again.
So, really, I'm not ready to let it go.
I do think though, like with FASTING, the body decides to do things that it couldn't do without treatment (wand or fasting). It is amazing how much detox comes only with fasting. Same with the wand, a sort of overboosting of detox reactions.
Not always fun... Anyway, I decided to test my infection nosode box, and found out what I have. It is cryptococcus neoformans, an opportunistic fungal infection.
I had that before, but I don't think it was in my bladder / kidney.
It is a very dangerous infection. Fatal if untreated.
It is either being cleaned up from my system (as it is not the first time I have it, as I remember the name clearly), through 'peeling the layers'... Or something else.
Well, I'll be using my PE1 and nosodes now. And order the higher dilutions.
Here a link for it causing kidney and bladder infection.
there is an antibiotic for it (fluconazole), in case my treatments fail...
In any case, MMS can't fight it completely. Fungi and candida are not very much cleared by MMS, according to my own experiences of 30 years with candida species.... It is rather good for viruses and some bacteria, in my opinion.
But it did help reduce symptoms fast, but not eradicate the infection till the end.
Posted by anuta (Member # 22646) on :
Wow, Brussels, I hope that you will knock down that fungi soon. Do you think that it appeared being part peeling the onion thing? It looks like it since you say you’ve had it before.
I had similar experience as well. Few weeks after I had started the wand, I don’t test “infection” anymore. I mean I have symptoms and react on the wand strongly, but I can tolerate it much better than in the beginning. But when I ask “Infection” ? I get “No”. It happened for the first time since my Lyme escapade. My first thought was it is a good sign that infection stopped testing, but since I still have symptoms it makes it kind of little hard, how do you test it?
Last week I had old symptoms coming back, that I had 2 years ago and that went away when I started MMS. I felt feverish, tired, back muscle pain, sinuses pain. I got some round spots on my skin and the weirdest one, my nails on the fingers and toes got inflamed, painful and got dissociated in some places. So I was thinking parasites/fungi? It still doesn’t test as infection, that’s why it is hard to tell. I continue to take MMs and do the wand 2 times per week.
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Hey Anuta!! Watch out for detox reactions. This wand was one of the strongest treatments that caused me detox.
The strange thing is that, while the wand reinforces and cleans organs (liver, kidneys, gut), you feel parallel less toxic. Kind of opposite of what I 'm saying, but what I mean is that the WAY I felt toxic before the wand and AFTER IT, is VERY DIFFERENT.
It's like I have a new body. Before the wand, it was VERY EASY to know I was toxic. After the wand, it is VERY HARD for me to recognize I'm toxic. So what I do, I take binders even when they do not test.
If I feel better, it means I was toxic.
I had many skin reactions with it, for the whole time (even now) I've been using the wand. It is a full detox through the skin.
The oil that comes, my smell, the stinking urine, then funny points that appear specially on lymph nodes (like pimples), they appear on and on, even for my daughter.
I am giving DE to my daughter, and I'm taking chlorella more often than it tests. I feel like I'm new in detox, just because my body reacts differently to toxins.
The tests get harder, somehow, I do not know why. I would just increase binders and see how you react. Good luck!
My kidney infection is practically gone, with photon + nosodes. It tests coming from my cheekbone (reactivation? Peeling the onion?) and my gut. Whatever, I think I nailed it. The wand didn't help though, even though it helped with so many other jaw infections.!
Hope your nails get better. So crazy reactions we get....
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