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Posted by bruce101 (Member # 2457) on :
 
Do couples who have lyme -- transmitted by sex -- often have the same symptoms? Or is that pretty unusual? Thanks!
 
Posted by onebeed (Member # 46620) on :
 
My husband and I both have Lyme. Our symptoms are very different. However, we hsve both been bitten by many ticks over the years.
 
Posted by doshey (Member # 46853) on :
 
Has it been scientifically proven that u can transmit Lyme disease from sex?
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Yes, it is possible.

https://www.lymedisease.org/lyme-sexual-transmission-2/

NEWS: Recent study suggests that Lyme disease can be sexually transmitted

January 25, 2014

Excerpt:

. . . “The presence of the Lyme spirochete in genital secretions and identical strains in married couples strongly suggests that sexual transmission of the disease occurs,” said Dr. Mayne. . . .
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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For couples who both have lyme, it's never easy to tell exactly how / when that started, though.

So many of the classic symptoms are common to many who have lyme, though everyone seems to have some symptoms that migrate from day to day or other sort of time periods.

For couples who both have lyme and the same symptoms, could be that if the same strain, that would make a lot of sense.

- it's also key to consider the environment for factors / influences that can trigger the same things.

I'm thinking things like a gas stove, furnace or fireplace. Many with lyme can't tolerate the additive in that for the safety alert and even at small amounts, that can trigger symptoms.

Same with certain chemicals, vinyl shower curtain, etc.

With everyone who has lyme, the liver is affected. There is no way to get around that. And, when the liver is affected, many of the same symptoms appear.

Similarly, the adrenal, nervous, vestibular & cardiac functions are often affected and many symptoms are common.
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[ 12-09-2015, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
 
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
 
I gave it to my wife & I was able to see the spirochetes 4+ years in her blood before she started to develop symptoms. I predicted that she would get LD & just recently she FINALLY is open to the fact that she has it with the growing fatigue, joint snapping & crackling, & newly emerging symptoms of sporadic & migrating joint & body pain.


Welcome to the club honey & sorry it took you this long to even accept & understand what is going on.


Contact transmission is also possible..."Dairy cattle and other food animals can be infected with B. burgdorferi and hence some raw foods of animal origin might be contaminated with the pathogen. Recent findings indicate that the pathogen may be transmitted orally to laboratory animals, without an arthropod vector. Thus, the possibility exists that Lyme disease can be a food infection."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1790102/?i=5&from=%2F12653136%2Frelated


http://f1000research.com/articles/3-309/v1#reflist

This is a recent article on sexual transmission.
 
Posted by Haley (Member # 22008) on :
 
My theory is that those infected by a tick a much sicker than someone who may have had it passed to them.

The tick injects multitudes of pathogens along with a chemical that shuts down the immune system. Possibly one or two of the bugs would be passed to someone else, but not all of them.
 
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
 
Haley, that is exactly my thought process too in that full blown LD, with the multitude of symptoms, is not LD until complimented with co-infections.


I think we need better stages & categories of LD stages than what we currently have....stage 1-4, since it is a little more complicated than just a series of sequential stages.


Babs is reported to infect <.01% of RBC's & bart <00.1 & it would be much more difficult to transfer these infections than Borrelia. So those from human contact or sexual transmission can expect to not show symptoms for longer lengths of time & not be as crippled by Borreliosis.
 


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