Among a list of supplements and antibiotics, my Dr. also prescribed Teasel Tincture by Phillip Fritchey, ND.
While I was hunting for the best price, I ran into Phillip Fritchey’s website “hisgoodherbs.com” I called the contact number to ask the question about the price on different vials.
Mr. Fritchey answered the phone by himself and gave me some insight on how Lyme can be diagnosed by taking teasel tincture.
Usually for Lyme Doctors prescribe 1-3 drops three times a day. But if regular dose is taken, it will create herxheimer reaction and will be a sure sign of Borrelia. Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Most "lyme doctors" do not use teasel. Or, if they do, it's in rotation / combination. Be sure to read all you can from the books / website of Harrod Buhner, a master herbalist who is excellent in his writings.
This will help balance out information about approaches with herbal choices.
Teasel can be helpful. You do not need to rely on this kind of "testing" though as you have a positive Western Blot. Looking at his article here, he does warn to take it low and slow.
I can't read his article right now but saw a few sentences that may indicate this was he main helper. It can be for some. In fact, there have been several folks who have reported it was a major help to them. But there is never a real follow up to that so it's hard to know how they did months later.
But others have written that they did not found teasel to be of such great help. I sure did not - I tried it for just two months soon after I was diagnosed but many years after being very ill so I was very chronic by that time.
I used teasel alone (later found out any treatment best in combination and with rotation from time to time).
I see that you have another current thread where you say you are just starting antibiotics. Hope you found a good LLMD. Good luck.
Where can I buy Teasel? -
Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
I think it's interesting what the LLMD said. There is also a woman named "Lady Barbara" ( who died of stomach cancer) who said she was completely healed with Teasel.
What Buhner says is that *sometimes* it works wonders and sometimes people just get no response at all. Meaning -- if you're one of those people the "herx test"might not be reliable.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
I took it years ago and didn't notice any difference.
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Moving to Medical Questions
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods, because lyme is so very complex & unique, as are possible coinfections:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine at an accredited institution -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
so they really know all they can about the science of lyme . . . how lyme (& other TBD) act and what we can do about that in various ways. Proper ASSESSMENT of not just lyme but coinfectoins is vital. Someone trained by ILADS is best to assess.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . . -
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
Not everyone reacts to teasel. Usually people with arthritis will react more than others, I remember reading about that.
I took teasel for a while, but MUCH better than teasel is CATS CLAW, bulk herb in powder.
I do feel that almost everyone reacts to cats claw if their borrelia is active, while teasel, is not so clear for many people....
i only took teasel for a short term, as I felt it helped but not too much... Some people though USED to swear by it, here in Europe. But today, I would trust more cats claw in bulk as a lyme test!
Posted by romi (Member # 47037) on :
Answer to Keebler:
Yes , I am under treatment with a LLMD, taking antibiotics and lots of natural and regular supplements. thanks for asking.
Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
I am not surprised t hear this, Romi. I herxed so badly on one drop of teasel that I never plucked up the courage to try it again!
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