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Posted by Gabe (Member # 47670) on :
 
Hi Folks,

Against my good graces and all that is ladylike within me, I am posting this topic on sweats.

I have been hearing about sweat cycles that go along with the Lyme/Babs or other co-infections' cycles, and want to know if this is what is going on with me. Do not read, if easily grossed out!

This has been happening to me since my first bad episodes of muscle failure in 2006. At night, I would get these horrible sweats with a strange scent, kind of a combination of metallic odour or a kind of weird asafoetida/B vitamins type smell?

Others can't seem to detect it, but I sure can, and it seems to be in my hair and scalp as well, at the same time that I have weakness, a pale/waxy funereal kind of pallor to my skin, and oilier hair and skin.

I always try to have a bath and wash my hair daily during these phases, and drink lots of water!

Since 2006, I've gotten these sweats along with the muscle weakness for months at a time, with some variation, but the sweats very bad/smell stronger when the weakness was very bad.

Now I get these for a couple of nights right and the end/beginning of my menstrual cycle, at the same time as I have some muscle weakness, which I now treat with Mestinon and/or Nux Vomica.

It's the strangest thing. Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a detox reaction?

Thank you, Gabe

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(breaking up the post for easier reading for many here)

[ 03-21-2016, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Robin123 ]
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Avoiding all synthetic clothing will help. Cotton, sometimes rayon (in a skirt) help me the most. Cotton always in a shirt, bed linens, etc.

And rib knit tops breath better than woven ones. But they show more bumps, can loose shape more easily and never wear one if you are getting your photo taken (the light passes right through).

Avoid any wrinkle resistant as they are treated with a chemical.

JCPenney has their St. John's Bay Essential knit tops that are thin and very breathable - my "at home" tops.

Lands' End has some thicker cotton knit tops that are more presentable in others' presence and breathe very well.

and LLBEAN has wonderful more tightly woven or knitted tops that are more presentable for going out but don't breath as well.


Skirts, rather than pants. No tights or pantyhose. Of course, if you have a professional job that requires dressing, you'll have to figure out more things.

When I was still working, with little money, I bought an acetate suit / blouse. I would sweat like a pig in that. Just terrible. I had no clue then that it was basically wrapping myself in plastic and putting my legs and hips into plastic pantyhose or tights.

SOME of the newer synthetics are breathable, I hear. You might explore clothes made for workouts, too. But be sure they say "breathable" . . . still I tend to steer from clothes may from petroleum as so many are now.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Back to cause: most likely BABESIA. Sure was for me.

A good LLMD can help you sort this out.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Mestinon [which you say you are taking]

Common side effects may include:

•stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea;
•muscle cramps, twitching;

•SWEATING, increased salivation;
•cough with mucus;

•rash; or.
•blurred vision.
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Posted by Gabe (Member # 47670) on :
 
Thanks Keebler. Cotton is definitely helpful! The sweats seem to happen more when I'm sleeping. I was sweating and having muscle twitches prior to Mestinon. Do you notice a strange scent when you get the sweats too?
 
Posted by bcb1200 (Member # 25745) on :
 
I would say Babs, Protomyxzoa, or Brucella.

Brucella is famous for causing sweats with an odor. The odor is described as smelling like "wet hay."
 
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
 
No idea whether a light rubdown with 50% rubbing alcohol would remove the smell? I use it for underarm deodorant since being chem sensitive I can't use any other chemicals.
 
Posted by Gabe (Member # 47670) on :
 
Thank you for this info.. 'Wet hay," huh? Not sure I have smelled that, if if I smelled like that, but it sounds unpleasant.

I will see if I can get checked for that. It's interesting because no one can smell it but me. I have a super sensitive schnoz though!

I'm good if I can wash every day, it was just difficult when I was so weak I couldn't get into the bath etc.

I will see if I can get checked for the Brucella and Protomyxzoa.
I just got a Babs test recently.

Thanks for the heads up!

Gabe
 
Posted by tulips (Member # 44773) on :
 
Tests for Babesia are notoriously unreliable. Sweats and wasting muscles are Babesia symptoms. I've had oily hair and couldn't go a single day without washing it. Minocycline got rid of the funereal pallor to my skin and stopped my hair from getting so oily. I think it's caused by toxins or die off.
 
Posted by WPinVA (Member # 33581) on :
 
I had night sweats with babesia and also with CPN.
 
Posted by paulieinct (Member # 17514) on :
 
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Originally posted by Gabe:


I will see if I can get checked for that. It's interesting because no one can smell it but me. I have a super sensitive schnoz though!

Gabe

Your extremely sensitive sense of smell could be a lyme symptom. You could also have "phantom" smells. Some people lose their sense of smell, and taste.

I feel that night sweats and day sweats are due to different bugs. Night sweats babs, day sweats Lyme or Bart. Just my opinion. I have severe day sweats but no night sweats. I recently made progress against Bart with hi-dose rifampin, and I think my day sweats are subsiding.
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Sweats for me were either Babesia (they were amazingly strong, but as babesia symptoms change, not always that strong.

Babesia also comes with flushes during the day (like face getting hot), fluctuation of mood (very strong sometimes), weakness, change of behavior.

I knew I had babesia when I decided to self medicate with Riamet (a malaria drug) and ALL those symptoms disappeared in less than 3 days.

I think today I would try a herb called Artemisia annua in decoction, and see how I react. Artemisia was one of my favorite herbs for babesia, easier to take than Artemisisinin (the extract).

If not babesia, toxicity from other pathogens can cause those sweats. Even bad foods can cause night sweats.

Another reason for night sweats is a malfunction in certain Chinese meridians. They work following certain times, and I know that the practitioner can see what is the meridian in problem if sweats come at the same time every night.

I also know that excess of yin causes night sweats....
 


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