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Posted by kms1990 (Member # 41700) on :

Hi All,

I wanted to get your opinion on this Igenex labs of mine. I said negative according to the CDCs standards however there are a few positives and INDs. If I were to count the INDs as positive I think it would be CDC positive test. [IMG][/IMG]

Posted by kms1990 (Member # 41700) on :

Labs photo can be found here: https://postimg.org/image/68s69qnpz/

Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :

What about the IgM?

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

You have some very important positive bands and very important "IND" bands.

Western Blot Explanation
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/42077

27 Reasons Your Lyme Test Could Come Back Negative
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/3/33085?#000001

Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :

Many feel that we're positive with even one Lyme-specific band showing up. Your results look positive to me -

Posted by kms1990 (Member # 41700) on :

@TF My IGM test was all negative with just the IND for band 41

Posted by paleogal (Member # 45991) on :

Igenex will do a follow-up test if you authorize them to to determine if the Band 31 is due to Lyme or something else (the 31 kDa Epitope test, I think it's called).

Mine looked somewhat like yours, until they did that confirmatory test that that turned it Igenex positive.

It does cost more money though, and I agree with the other people that it seems like you have enough positive bands to at least consider Lyme is there.

Posted by bluelyme (Member # 47170) on :

Ya ...band 41 is flagella...i confirmed with microscopy at 1000x you can see em..especially if you crush the rbcs

Posted by kms1990 (Member # 41700) on :

@bluelyme what is a flagella is it normal? My doc is fairly confident I have predominantly chronic bartonella.

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

Yes, but he needs to treat you for Lyme also. You could do an antibiotic challenge and test again to see what shows up.

It's discussed in the first link I gave you.

Posted by kms1990 (Member # 41700) on :

Thanks all for your replys. Based on my response to IV rocephin I am really starting to think I had lyme as well. I am feeling a bit like a human being again [Smile]

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

Good to hear! [Smile]

Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :

If you read the thread you were given by Lymetoo called Western Blot Explanation, you will find out what a flagella is and that it is an indicator of lyme disease.

It is NOT normal to have a positive band 41, the flagella or tail of the lyme bacteria or tail of some other germs such as those involved in gum disease and perhaps syphilis.

You really need to read the explanation of the test to understand your results and what they mean.