My white blood cell count has been very low for a few years now. It isn't getting any better!
I have been told I am a prime candidate for cancer.I am looking for a way to boost my count.
Does anyone know if Transfer Factor really works?? It is SOOO expensive that I don't feel like pitching my money into a useless supplement if it doesn't work.
Has anyone ever used IP-6 and Inositol too and boosted their count?
I am still struggling with Babesia, so I am hoping treatment will bring it up too? Thanks!!
Posted by HW88 (Member # 48309) on :
I have tried transfer factors. I really couldn't tell much of a difference, but I did not do a before and after look at white blood cell.
I think the idea of transfer factors is great. I just don't know if they really do as the theory suggests.
Sorry, I'm not more helpful.
Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
If you have an infection that lowers your wbc (like Ehrlichia or Bart) I really don't think it does much. I've tried all the stuff for my immune system and it had no effect at all.
It's worth trying I guess based on studies but I'm convinced a lot of these things are just well-meaning junk.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Make sure you are taking meds that will clear ehrlichia .. that is the number one cause of a low wbc in the lyme world. Second would be RMSF.
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
When I was treating lyme, babs, and bart, my white cell count eventually went low. My lyme doc said that the body senses the antibiotics and eventually decides that, due to them, it does not have to make so many white blood cells.
When my count went low, he put me on Transfer Factor. In 2 weeks, my count was up to normal and I stopped the TF. Next time it went low, did the same thing. Third time it went low, he told me to just stay on the Transfer Factor until I was finished with treatment. I did.
TF enabled me to continue my antibiotic treatment uninterrupted. And, I was cured of all my diseases as a result. So, it worked for me. This was over 11 years ago.
I took TF with bovine colostrum in it. So, that is the active ingredient that you want to look for. Colostrum is the mother's first milk; bovine refers to cows. So, it is the cow's first milk that is transferring good things to the newborn calf.
I believe the brand was called 4Life.
If you have a low white count without even being on antibiotics, that would be a different case from mine. I can't speak to that case.
I agree that it is expensive.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
TF, the antibiotic theory makes sense.
I think mine dropped after being on treatment too!
Thanks a lot for telling me a good brand. I had bought researched nutritionals, but they are twice as expensive as 4life. (bummer)
I will know what to get next time! It doesn't seem to help peoples symptoms, but I don't want to get cancer! Right now a good lab report would be great!
Posted by terv (Member # 29410) on :
my llmd prescrbes me leucovorin. works great everytime.
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
Right, the Transfer Factor doesn't help your symptoms at all. The only way you know that it is doing its job is by getting your white blood cell count tested.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
thanks terv! I will google this. I have no idea what leucovorin is?? But that it works sounds great!
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
hmm so I just looked it up. Interesting med... I wonder if since it protects cells against cancer if it would protect your red blood cells against Babesia??
I know, I know... a WILD card... but hey?
Posted by terv (Member # 29410) on :
I never thought to ask how or why it works. Dr usually gives it to me when my wbc mid to upper "2s". I will take it for a month and I will get the count to about 3.5.
I am not on it all the time only when I need it.
Posted by bluelyme (Member # 47170) on :
Folic acid will help anemic effects ...collostrum has hgh and may help if you can do dairy. .
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
thanks bluelyme for the tip about folic acid.
Right now I can't breathe.... uuugh...
I don't know if is a mepron/zith babesia die off reaction or if my meds aren't working...Seems like I just can't get air, which I assume is from low red blood cells.
So I don't have red cells and I don't have white ones!! Maybe the purple ones are still there?(jk) Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- TF, how handy that your initials are the same as for Transfer Factor. I often have trouble finding detail that I know I saved.
I saved your post and when I go to find in future, whether thinking of your name or the product, the TF should work for memory prompt with file name:
TF post, Transfer Factor, 2016 -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Medical mushrooms might also have some positive effects.
Medical Mushrooms - Links -
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
I just want to throw in here to the discussion that Dr B. found that Transfer Factor works based on his experience. I think he treated more lyme patients than anybody here on LymeNet.
Here is his writeup from page 30 of the Guidelines:
"TRANSFER FACTORS are the body’s natural signals meant to activate the pathogen-killing effects of the cellular immune system. Therapy with these agents consists of taking both a general stimulator, plus specific transfer factors for the infection you have.
Personal experience made me a believer in transfer factor therapy. For Lyme patients, use Transfer Factor Multi-Immune as the general stimulant, and Transfer Factor Lyme- Plus as the specific agent.
Both are exclusives from Researched Nutritionals, and I have found them to be surprisingly effective in making the very ill respond better to treatment. Take as directed on the label."
Hey, Keeb. I saw your post!
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Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
My doc believes in good mushroom products for boosting immunity, like Host Defense with 17 mushrooms in it. I am a sensitive person, and I can take this product fine. I get it at the health food store.
Even cooking with reishi, maitake, shiitake mushrooms etc is fine to do.
Posted by foxy loxy (Member # 47053) on :
good to know TF! thanks... so do you think I should only stay with researched nutritionals? You took 4life right?
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
In my particular circumstances, my lyme doc had me take 4life. It worked for my low white cell count.
Burrascano may be saying to take the other brand for something else. I am not sure.
" to activate the pathogen-killing effects of the cellular immune system." and "surprisingly effective in making the very ill respond better to treatment."
I was NOT very ill when I had the low white cell count. I had beaten lyme and bart and was down to just treating babs. I was responding very well to treatment--extremely well in fact.
So, maybe all you need in your situation is the 4life.
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Right now a good lab report would be great!