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Posted by mjo (Member # 7876) on :
 
Anyone else have trouble taking B vitamins?

Does methylation cycle have to be fixed first?
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Rashes, itching? What?
 
Posted by TF (Member # 14183) on :
 
I was taking vitamin B2 400 mg per day per doctor's orders to treat daily continuous migraine.

It made me feel like a menopausal woman and it was not fun. When I reported it, my doctor said that he has heard this before.

So, that is what B2 can do to a population of non-lyme patients. (I haven't had lyme for 12 years.)

I found that I could eventually tolerate 100 mg of B2 per day. It took over 2 months for my body to tolerate that dosage without feeling menopausal.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Exactly which product/s do you take?

Always take in the middle of a substantial meal - not dinner (as some B's are very stimulating)?

This really matters as some of the B's (especially B3) can really wreck the stomach and cause the feeling of a sudden flu hit with nausea / sweating / faint feeling. Bee Pollen and propolis can also cause that.

B's really need a good meal to surround them, so to speak. B12, sublingually, though is usually not like that. But for someone with methylation issues, a special form of B12 would be needed, not the typical form.

Niacin / B3 is the worst. Also be sure not to get too much of that or too much B6.

Rather than vitamins in their own pill forms, I prefer to get vitamins only from food sources, such as with chlorella and the like.

But be careful with kelp - or any seaweed - as that can also cause a sudden "hit" and be too stimulating in nature since it is high in a natural MSG.


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Brewers Yeast - a good way to get B vitamins but start low and slow
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Never start with 3 tablespoons / TBSP, though, start with 1/2 teaspoon / tsp. several times a day.


Chlorella Nutrition Facts

As you’re about to see, chlorella is one of the most nutrient-dense superfoods in the world.

A 1-ounce (3 tbsp) serving of chlorella contains:

Protein—16g

Vitamin A—287% RDA

Vitamin B2—71% RDA
Vitamin B3—33% RDA

Iron—202% RDA
Magnesium—22% RDA
Zinc—133% RDA

In addition, chlorella contains a good amount of vitamin B1, vitamin B6 and phosphorus.

When you look at its nutrient density score, it’s easy to see why chlorella is ranked one of the top 10 health foods in the world. In fact, it is way more nutrient dense per gram than other greens, including kale, spinach and broccoli!

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7 Proven Chlorella Benefits - By Dr. Axe


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Chlorella & Spirulina - Information Links
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Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
 
mjo- yes. Have you done the MTHFR tests?
 
Posted by mjo (Member # 7876) on :
 
Hey! Forget how bright you all are here.

Yes Tincup! 1298C CC (homozygous), low COMT activity, CYP2C9 poor metabolizer, same with CYP3A5 poor, also UGT2B15 poor.

Last time I tried scraping a little off methylfolate tablet I came close to passing out a few hours later.

Have more problematic SNPs, ABCB1 for instance. Geez.

Can take hyrdroxy B12 by injection, same with B1 but now must find a new lab for ordering it.

B6 needed, Spectracell test, but can't take it orally.

Too afraid to try B3.

Suspect I need glutathione IV. Sublingual problematic.

Keebler. I may very well go back to Chlorella! Open to more suggestions! Thank you all!
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Might try p5p for the B6 .. and don't take TOO MUCH!! You can get toxicity from it.
 
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
Have you tried whole food vitamins? MegaFood?
 
Posted by mjo (Member # 7876) on :
 
Catgirl. Was looking at them. Curious if they wouldn't be a whole lot better?

Think that's what Keebler meant with Chlorella, right?
 
Posted by mjo (Member # 7876) on :
 
Lymetoo. The B6 ratchets up the ringing in my ears significantly and within a very short period of time.

Good question.
 
Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Mjo, do you mean that the p5p form of B6 does this?

I wonder f you have tried topical versions of the B vitamins, by the way?
 
Posted by mjo (Member # 7876) on :
 
Yes. ukcarry.

Have not tried topical. Do they work better?
 
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
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Originally posted by mjo:
Catgirl. Was looking at them. Curious if they wouldn't be a whole lot better?

Think that's what Keebler meant with Chlorella, right?

I haven't read everyone's posts here but food based anything is going to be a whole lot better. I can't take much chlorella but I energy tested well for the brand I posted above (no affiliation).
 
Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Topical B12 works very well for me, whilst orals weren't doing the job (and some of them are horrendous for the teeth over long-term). I haven't tried injections.

I send away to a small company in Australia (b12 oils.com), where the owner, Greg, is an expert on topical delivery and has been researching B12 for many years. He offers the oils in the different forms of B12 and also one that includes the other B vitamins.

He is very generous with his time and expertise, so I am sure that he would be helpful if you wanted to put your situation to him.

Of course, topicals may not suit you either, but I thought it was worth a mention.
 
Posted by mjo (Member # 7876) on :
 
Thanks ukcarry. Had never heard of vitamins via oils. Very interesting!
 


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