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Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
There were reports in several threads in the past of folks who were going to try claritin (Loratadine) to fight B. burgdorferi.

There has also been several inquiries since then about what kind of results or experiences those folks have had (with little or no response that I could find).

The purpose of this thread is to collect and consolidate and experiences with this treatment. Please share and comment! Thanks!

(breaking up the post for easier reading for many here)

[ 03-18-2017, 10:52 PM: Message edited by: Robin123 ]
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
It helps control my MCAS symptoms .. very much related to Lyme disease damage.

MCAS:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/36299

I only take as needed. I try to minimize all drugs and supplements.
 
Posted by Bartenderbonnie (Member # 49177) on :
 
Funny story about Claritin. . .

I was diagnosed with CVID(immune disfunctional).
I needed an immunologist.

So I researched area doctors to see who would be a good fit for me and my medical needs.

One doctor close by, was the original researcher for loratadine. In fact, his research paper was the reason Claritin was
approved.

Couldn't believe my good fortune.
My Lyme and CVID and a knowledgable doctor with Claritin.
Thought I hit pay dirt !

Not. . .

He had never heard of Claritin being able to kill spiroketes. Didn't have a clue about Lyme connection even though he is super intelligent and educated.

Just goes to show how far behind the eight ball mainstream doctors are !

Lyme disease causes immune disfunctions.
Immunologists should be on the front line to diagnose and combat all TBI's.

Kick the IDSA to the curb with anything that has to do with TBI's. They are too corrupt.

Start all over, start fresh. Immunology is the new frontier.

Sorry I couldn't help you but I believe Claritin sounds promising.
 
Posted by Christopher J (Member # 46401) on :
 
It made my hair fall out at high doses so I had to stop but man was it working. Major herxes and I took massive amounts.
 
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
 
Took it for a month. It made me even more exhausted & sexual drive plummeted to almost nill. On & off a few times & it was consistent that this was the cause.
 
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
 
I took Claritin in high doses (30-50mg/day) for a few years...didn't help any Lyme stuff but did help allergies until found & cleared mold growing in the kitchen. Cleaned up the mold, and my allergies went down to near-nothing.

Started getting side-effects from Claritin, so weaned off of it. Did not notice any difference other than my stomach being a little more troublesome (nausea), but that was expected given that some antihistamines are used to treat nausea.

My understanding of the Claritin killing Bb is that it works in a test tube but only at doses too high to achieve in a person. I think more research needs to be done around this idea, because if they can figure out why the Claritin kills the Bb in the test tube, there may be a way to achieve the same effect in a person without such high doses of Claritin.

Just my opinion...
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
Christopher 3, what was high doses for you? You might try pulsing to improve benefit/side effect ratio.

Lymedin2010, it is possible you were herxing?

Razzle, any reason to think your "Lyme" issues were not B.b. specific (i.e., co-infections)?
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Razzle:


My understanding of the Claritin killing Bb is that it works in a test tube but only at doses too high to achieve in a person. I think more research needs to be done around this idea, because if they can figure out why the Claritin kills the Bb in the test tube, there may be a way to achieve the same effect in a person without such high doses of Claritin.

Just my opinion...

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I pretty much have the same opinion.
 
Posted by bluelyme (Member # 47170) on :
 
Droid tried high doses for a bit ..pm him?
 
Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
bluelyme, pm'ed Droid but no response. Apparently he is doing well. We started 40 mg today.
 
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
 
"Lymedin2010, it is possible you were herxing?"

No, I have herxed with other stuff in the past & I know what one is like. After some time with all the abx & herbs, I no longer herx on anything much anymore. I think they have become resistant to most abx & herbs now.
 
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
 
do not take if you have high blood pressure
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Keep in mind that it is ototoxic.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Claritin listed bottom of page 8 & top of page 9

http://hearinglosshelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/tinnitusdruglist2013.pdf

Prescription Medications, Over-the-Counter Drugs, Herbs & Chemicals Associated with Tinnitus

2013 Edition - 30 pages - Compiled by Neil G. Bauman, Ph.D.


Still, his 3rd edition of Ototoxic Drugs is best to have for a fuller set. So much just cannot be found via the web. Book:

http://hearinglosshelp.com/shop/ototoxic-drugs-exposed/

Ototoxic Drugs Exposed (3rd edition)

The Shocking Truth About Prescription Drugs, Medications, Chemicals and Herbals That Can (and Do) Damage Our Ears

By Neil Bauman, Ph.D.

. . . detailed listings of the ear-damaging side effects of 877 drugs, 35 herbals and 148 chemicals (798 pages).
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Posted by BobG (Member # 39642) on :
 
@Keebler thanks. Many lyme drugs are on the list.
 


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