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chainsaw joe
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I AM ANGRY.Why havent we all gotten together to protest the CDC for how they have handeled the diagnosis and treatment of lyme.Thousands of innocent children suffer and we do nothing or very little.Yes some stuff has been done but for the most part we are getting crapped all over by the CDC and medical system.I hear 200,000 get this disease every year,then why hasnt there been a bigger uprising.For some crazy reason nothing great is being done.Yes I know you die from aids but aids people were more united and have more fight than the lyme community.Im sorry but thats the way I see it.If theres no pressure and we dont show big numbers of people protesting it will never change.You can all get mad at me but I bet you cant even get 100 people to unite together hear to meet someplace to make ourselves and this crime of lyme treatment seen.I dont understand how SO MANY people get this and there is no united protest.You can write as many articles as you want,articles come and go,we need large numbers of lymies to be seen in a protest.I dont know what the problem is but for some reason it just doesnt happen.
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I have been saying this for awhile now. I wrote a letter over a year ago and actually got a reply back from Gerberding.

It made me realize just how behind the curve the CDC was. I have been working very hard over the past 6 months and I believe in the next couple of months there will be some big news.

I cant really talk about the specifics at the moment, but I have been working on a multi prong stratagey which I think is coming together. As soon as possible, I will fill you all in.


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I think everyone probably thinks about this...One problem is that Hollywood isn't behind this disease and also many of the patients and family members are too busy just staying alive..

Or have no money for travel....

There is little left for advocacy..Those that have time and energy, need to try their best at this pursuit.


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chainsaw joe
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Even if we protested in each individual state at the state health department.If you get a few hundred people and there story is all the same,we would make the papers and thats what we need to keep doing,persistently.We should do it thinking about all the hell innocent children go through because they are misdiagnosed and cant find a doctor that treats lyme that takes insurance.Shame on us(me also).Anyone up for a protest?The headcount on here was well over 100 wasnt it?Im confident only a handfull would get together,I dont get it.I am very sick with neuro lyme but I would still go.I really feel it a shame we sit back and take this treatment.
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Actually there have been several protests, but they are mostly ignored by the powers that be, or described as stalking. Not a big turn out either.

People who want to do something need to support efforts and organizations that already exist, not re-invent the wheel, in my opinion. They are always in need of help.

The other thing is that the problems in Lyme disease are part of a larger disfunctional health care system. If that were not the case, maybe we would be further along.

What blows me away is that ignorance and self-interest seems to get rewarded. Alan Steere, one of the leading reasons why we are not getting appropriate diagnosis and treatment, was recruited by Harvard, even tho it was known that many patients complained about him. Why would they do this? Only reason I can think is that he brings in the grants. Money is at the root of a lot of bad medicine.

Sorry, I know this is not the answer you wanted and I felt the way you do when I first started down this road.

In the absence of the big uprising, maybe you could just do what you can to help in the Lyme cause, whatever that is. Teddy Roosevelt once said something about just going ahead with something worthwhile even if it doesn't look like it will succeed, and the odds are against you. It should be done because it needs doing. So, do something, was his message.

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There ARE steps being taken.

In CA, CALDA was very active in getting the state legislature to pass a law that will require lab reporting of any positive Lyme tests, instead of expecting physicians to do the reporting.

On the east coast, a similar bill resulted in a 17 times increase in the numbers reported.

Since the department of health services in each state is responsible for the reporting to CDC, that is an important step that we need to take. And it has to be done state by state.

Check with LDA, or your local affiliate, to see what is being done. We have to have the numbers to make further demands. As long as it is claimed that Lyme disease is a rare illness, they will give it no attention.

We need to let it be known that Lyme disease is NOT rare, and that it disables and kills, costing the country big time. That is why AIDS got attention, because it was EXPENSIVE for the government.

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Thank God for lymenet,Ilads and all the rest that fight for the cause but somethings havent changed.The CDC is no way handling this even close to the way they should,they are the reason thousands get misdiagnosed,denied treatment and coverage.There isnt enough pressure on them to make them change and the where is the pressure going to come from,us and we UNITED arent doing it.Tell me since this thing began how diagnosis and reporting have changed.Doctors still dont know squat and we all have to pay out of pocket to see brave doctors that will listen to us.Im not trying to invent a new wheel,this wheel is not squeking loud enough.If there were a much louder united effort,woulnt more get done,am I correct?Im not fighting with anyone here,just full of anger about this.
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If it's in the northeast, I'm in.
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I'm with you Joe. Just sharing what I have seen over the last couple of years. Previously I have participated in everything possible, in the hopes that others would do the same.

And riversinger is right about getting things done in states. I tried to give this a push in my state. It was amazing how many excuses people had for not getting involved. I suspect this is an all too common scenario elsewhere.

Don't have the answer. This situation has definitely gone on too long. People always seem to think the truth will come out eventually. Well, who knows how long that will be and how many lives will be ruined in the meantime.


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thanks Lou and the rest,Im starting to calm down a little but maybe thats a bad thing.
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I'd be up for something in the northeast! I'm not up to organizing but I'd certainly help out in any way I could if something does get organized!

I think getting angry about things sometimes is good, gets things done, but I don't think it's healthy to be that way very much. Gives you a burst and some ideas and then you can go with things from there.

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One of the things I have been doing is working with my Congressman and Senators with regards to the CDC. My Congressman wrote the CDC on my behalf and I just happened to get a reply in the mail today.

Again the reply from the CDC to my Congressman was from Gerberding directly, and did include a copy of my letter that I had written the CDC last year along with her response to me.

Her response to my Congressman was exactly what I expected, there is no change in the status for Lyme Disease in California. I have also been in contact with Senator Feinstein's office and they have also committed to help, and a letter from the Senator was also sent to the CDC.

I will now be sending out my response to the Congressman this weekend. I had it already to go. While all of this communication is meaningless to helping us out in the short run, it was a necessary step that I had to take, before I could move forward. I do have a group of influential people waiting in the wings to move forward. We are almost there. My plan is to go after the CDC directly.

In my opinion the CDC is at the center of this problem. It is their leadership that is allowing this problem to grow at an alarming rate.

I am not saying the CDC is the whole problem, but it is an important part of what needs to get corrected. I do not feel that enough has been done to handle this piece, that is why I am doing what I am.

Things will change I know it will. It will take alot of effort on all our parts, but I do feel like I am seeing some light ahead.


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God bless you with strength.The CDC is to blame,they KNOW that there criteria is causing thousands of people and children to be disabled.Many lives have been ruined because of the way they have handled this.It truly is a crime.Even though I have been diagnosed by 4 doctors as having neuro lyme and they have said I need to be on IV but I am allowed this because I have never gotten the full 5 bands.I was misdiagnosed the first 6 months because an elisa came back negative and the doc said I didnt have it.For some reason the CDC doesnt inform more and we are sick because of it and we take it.So much for calming down.If I can help hwlatin let me know.Joe
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Could someone please post what they know about the status/progress of the Columbia Lyme Disease Research center? How far off is this from being realized? Funding? I can't help but think that once something like this is up and moving forward, more attention will come from it and it's future studies, etc. Anyone know/agree? We need more research coming from "our camp".

Another question, is Pennsylvania any closer to passing the bill about protecting our lyme doctors?? I hope this is not dead and if it becomes reality someday I hope that will help a bit to get some attention, momentum, yes?

I get mad, too, OFTEN. I need to find out how I can be useful here in PA. Rick Santorum...

hwlatin,

thank you thank you please keep us updated...


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Right you are, fish, we need more academic research like the Columbia work. But they only have half as much funding as they need to set this center going. Don't know why it hasn't attracted the kind of big donors it needs. There is certainly a lot of lyme in wealthy neighborhoods. If I were a praying person, getting this funded would have me on my knees a lot.

The other villain in this piece, in addition to the CDC, is NIH. Most of their research money is spent on proving chronic lyme is not infectious and does not need treatment. We have had two managers of the Lyme program at NIH now who have this outlook, presumably tolerated or initiated by their bosses. Does it go higher than Fauci? Hard to say. But there really are only a few NIH employees who are doing a good job with Lyme, and they aren't calling the shots.

I agree that if the government changed its stance, then the universities would follow along. They go where the grant money is.

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