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fflutterby
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Dr, B says we can have cheese. I am confused about this now because so many say we shouldn't. Any advise? I am finding alot of conflicting info in my searches.

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For anyone with any inner/middle ear issues - or with a sore throat - or lung troubles, diary is best avoided.

Cheese can also nearly create a sinus infection all on its own in very little time. This time of the year, especially, I would avoid it.

It creates phlegm and that harbors germs.
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Dairy can cause lots of phlegm and mucus. That harbors germs and causes inflammation and stagnancy.

Also to consider: toxins love fat. Unless the dairy cattle are totally organic, grass fed, free range . . . then the cheese may contain farm chemicals and rBGH (bovine growth hormone).

If you do consume dairy, organic is the best way to go. Some can do okay with YOGURT, as the culture in it changes things.

Of consideration, though, the author below equates dairy to glue that gums up the immune system.

You can read customer reviews at Amazon but you'd have to obtain it elsewhere. Your local bookstore may have it or order it for you - and it should be in the library system.

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Drink-Your-Milk-Frightening/dp/0945383347

DON'T DRINK YOUR MILK!: New Frightening Medical Facts about the World's Most Overrated Nutrient

-by Frank Oski, M.D. (1992)

The author . . . the former physician-in-chief of John Hopkins Children's Center and Professor and Chairman of the Department of Pediatrics at John Hopkins University School of Medicine.

Excerpts from one review:

. . . Among physicians, so much concern has been voiced about the potential hazards of cow milk that the Committee on Nutrition of the prestigious American Academy of Pediatrics, the institutional voice of practicing pediatricians, released a report entitled, "Should Milk Drinking by Children Be Discouraged?"

Although the Academy's answer to this question has (as of this writing) been a qualified "maybe," the fact that the question was raised at all is testimony to the growing concern about this product, which for so long was viewed as sacred as the proverbial goodness of mother and apple pie.

Does drinking milk help prevent osteoporosis because of the calcium it contains? Chapter 6 deals with that topic.

Strange as it may sound, both Africans and African-Americans consume less calcium and milk, and yet have greater bone density and less osteoporosis than Caucasians in America. While Americans get 807 mg. of calcium each day from drinking milk, the average citizen of Ghana gets but 8 mg.

As Dr. Oski points out, this low amount has made them "neither toothless nor lying about immobilized because of repeated bone fractures" (p. 50). . . .
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Thanks Keebler ! [woohoo]

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Cheese helps grow yeast. So keep it to a minimum.

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I have noticed it is better if I do not have cheese.

But, I do have it now and then.

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Sometimes I feel better after eating it- decent source of protein. If you are concerned about the inflammatory factor, try goat's cheese. Many folks who can't tolerate regular cow cheese do well with it.

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I typically avoid cheese for the reasons mentioned above. But everyone I live with eats cheese all the time! I'm sometimes tempted into it, especially if I want to share a meal with them.

Lately my housemates have been on a big kick of making their own cheese. It's really cool and yet really disgusting at the same time. They've made about 6 different kinds, and there are always several blocks of moldy cheese ripening around the house.

If you must do cheese, I agree that goat cheese is the way to go. Or maybe yogurt cheese - which is probably packed with probiotics.

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I do better with cheese. It has good enzymes, not to mention protein. When my digestion was really bad, dairy always was a good source of protein for me.

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I can't live without cheese! Isn't it a major food group? [lol]

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Milk has been one of my staples and really agrees with me. It also seems to help with my digestion and I need the protein.

What is not good for one, may be beneficial for another. Along with calcium and vitamin D, milk contains Vitamin A (immune boosting)vit K, Iodine, riboflavin, b 12, and potassium. Can also lower blood pressure.

I am sure i am missing some benfits, but if you google milk health benefits you can see for yourself. I think dairy has been given a bad rap. Just my personal experience.

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If cheese does not cause phlegm, that's a very good thing. I sure wish I could eat it as I agree, technically, it has good properties. But, for me, it causes an instant sinus infection from the phlegm.

I'm glad to hear that cheese works well for some. I hope to have a stronger system someday to be able to enjoy it again. For now, my ears just get too clobbered.

It has been the staple of many travelers, herders, etc. for centuries.

For you guys who do well with it, are there some that cause phlegm for you but other types that do not? Other than GOAT Cheese, which does work for me and others have noted the same. I've just never seen CHEDDAR goat cheese and something beside just Feta would be nice.
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I am not a big cheese eater. The only cheese that I seem to be okay with is mozzarela or cream cheese. Cheddar cheese used to make me violently ill with vomiting and migraines.

Of course that was way before I was dx and started tx. Phlegm wasn't a problem for me. Maybe the cheeses that are not highly fermented cause less phlegm. I think it has to do with what's brewing in the colon.

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i can't help it, i have to have my skim milk. no way around it. one glass in the morning or just a little with breakfast.

i'm not big on cheese but once in a great while i'll have a farmer's stick. you know the ones.

otherwise, no big cheese for me.

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