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Glassfish
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It's been a long time since I visited.

The last visit to my LLMD was at least a

year ago. That was when she told me the

chances of curing the lyme once it reaches a

stage like mine is less than 5%. Since then

I've had my port taken out and stopped all

therapy. The only option left, orals, tore

me up ... so I stopped. I figured if the

meds. did mothing good, dump 'em. Anyone

else dealing this way? Life is actually

better W/O right now & I'm happy ... even w/

monthly "lyme time" as I call it. Any

comments or suggestions greatly appreciated

Thanx


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janet thomas
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Where do you live? That was very wrong of the LLMD to tell you that. Have you looked into rife? There's a new abx called ketek. Did you know that?

Did you consult another LLMD?

You say oral abx tore you up. Which one(s)?
Did you always take with food?

Please tell us more.

Janet


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lou
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Late stage lyme can be very hard to shake and there is no test to show it is completely eradicated. Most lyme docs aim for a stage that is symptomless, whether you want to call that remission or cure. Won't know if you are cured unless you never have symptoms again the rest of your life!

My feeling is that if a lymie can function at a level that is satisfactory without meds, then it is their choice whether to go on meds or back on meds, or to do without. The risk is that it will get worse. It can then be retreated, but might do some permanent damage in the meantime.

A doc told me to go off meds for 6 weeks for another lyme test. It was more than 2 months before I got back on antibiotics. In the meantime, damage to my eyesight was set in motion, with the result that my left eye is now permanently damaged, with a threat of more to come. More meds will not undo this damage. So, naturally, I am most reluctant to try this little experiment again!

You are the only one that can decide whether or not to do without meds.

Some people achieve a good level of functioning only with meds and they choose to continue for that reason, even without knowing that treatment will result in symptoms going away entirely. Sort of like people with AIDS and diabetes have to keep treating to have quality of life/stay alive.


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I've had this for 45 yrs...wasn't dxd until 4 1/2 yrs ago and I'm doing GREAT! I just ordered a Rife machine myself. Going to get every last booger! You can do it too!

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Thanks for the info & comments. I think the

reason the LLMD said what she did was

because of what happened at the beginning

of my illness. As it happened, about 6

months before the symptoms exploded I was

given a lyme panel test. It was pos.,

but no one told me... Then the symptoms came

They started w/ the neuro. stuff. I had no

money so I had to go to a clinic. They

decided I has MS and pumped me full of

steroids. Ever since, I have not come up w/

a pos. antibody test. I HAVE had a pos.C-6

peptide test (biopsy). And at least 4 - 6

pos. PCR tests (UA and internal biopsy).

I've tried Doxy (oral and IV), Rocephin,

Rocephin & Vanco. combo, Zithromax oral

(usually with other IV meds). I've even

been on Primaxin and tried Flagyl with

something or other. Anyway because all

these failed, She concluded the steroids

must have done something to my immune system

and I may just have to wait for something

new to come along to help. The last oral

I tried was Doxy. Because most of my

problems are mostly still neuro., I had to

be on a really high dose. Even though I

did eat as much as I could w/ it, the nausea

was unbearable. I had to take a high dose

of Tigan 4 times a day plus Zofran 3 times a

day just to make sure I could keep anything

down. So, for now, I'm patiently awaiting

that "something new" to come along. I've

been playing educational games from the 'net

and doing balancing, stretching, and

isometric exercises to try to stay as

strong as possible mentally and physically.

If anyone does know of any LLMD's in central

or south Jersey other than the LDTC I'd

gladly speak to him / her for their advice

on this.

Again, ANY advise will be greatly

appreciated. Thanx


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LDTC- I'm not sure what that is- I went the Tick Disease ? in Phillipsburg, NJ-they also have an office in Hammonton or something like that? Is that where you went. Because I was told to discontinue abx after only 4 months, advice i did not take. I have some names of LLMDs in central NJ, email me.

I am reading the rife book and there's lots of lyme insight in there.

Janet


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Lymetoo
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YOu mention nausea....Have you been tested or treated for babesia?? Could be the key here!

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Lymetoo,

I wasn't for that by any blood tests, but

I did have an endoscopy done in '04 where

multiple biopsies were taken. None showed

Babesia, but they did find Bb, 2 different

fungal infections and something called

Mycoplasma fermantans. (LLMD said it was

some bacteria related to "Gulf War

Syndrome"... I just say yuck!)

They also looked for Bartonella, which,

thanks to you, in reviewing my test

results I see they DID find that one. I

don't remember any specific treatment

given for that one. I was placed on

Vfend for the fungal infections, and some

antibiotic (Doxy I think) for the other

"Gulf War" thing. Any info on the

Bartonella?


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You need to make sure you don't have Babesia. The only surefire method is taking the meds for it and seeing if you herx, as the tests are pretty inaccurate.

Bartonella definitely needs to be treated!!!!!!!!

You might want to post for info on that over in Medical. You'll get alot more responses. I don't know much about bart, but enough to know that it's serious stuff.

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Since you originally had an MS diagnosis see if a neuro can prescribe you IVIG (gamma globulin) to restore immune function and then take abx
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