momindeep
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Our governor has ordered a state of emergency for a severe lack of propane...customers either can't get any or if they can it costs major cash.
A gas pipeline exploded in Canada...customers of the gas companies affected are asking them to turn thermostats to 60 degrees in my area for 2 more days.
The wind is whipping outside and windchillis minus 22 degrees and expected to get colder yet.
Schools are closed AGAIN all over the state and MN and ND.
Drifting.
It is only January.
How is it where you live?
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Well.. it's much better than where you are!!!!
It was 69 today and tomorrow it will be 14 degrees by 8 a.m. I'm in SW Missouri.
We don't have any snow on the ground and no precipitation forecast.
It will be snowing and icing in Houston again Mon or Tues!!
I hope you can stay warm!!!
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We are getting 50 mph wind gusts tonight with a low of minus 5 and wind chills around -30. School is already closed for Monday. Brr.
I am praying my power stays on. What is weird is that it was 45 degrees this afternoon.
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-22! OMG! I am so sorry to hear this about propane.
It's 6 degree windchill here, but I can't complain after seeing your -22!
Hang in there!
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We've had colder weather than we're used to and propane goes up about fifty cents every two weeks
Weve had somesnow and small amt wind butnot toomuch-
We also had a wierd hot streak so who knows-maybe spring will come march first
Id be in a sleeping bag with my watch cap on if i was there
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It's pretty cold here in PA, but not quite as bad as WI or ND.
Tonight the temp is supposed to be -4 with a wind chill of -23.
Our daytime temps have risen a little, but vary a lot. One day it may be 10 degrees and the next it may be 32 degrees.
I read about the propane shortage.
So far, school was only cancelled one day due to the cold, when the daytime windchills were in the -30's. There was one 2 hr delay last week also due to the cold.
The cold temps seem to have become routine. It feels like the tundra.
It just seems to be the norm to be snowing, gusty and bone chilling cold.
I really feel for the people without heat or who are homeless. I like our house to be really warm. 60 degrees indoors is pretty cold, but certainly better than being outside.
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Our power went off about 15 min after I posted this! It was off for 2 hours and it made me a bit nervous.
Went to bed with sweats on .. then later got too warm!
Was so happy when the power came back on. It had been very windy and the power kept going off and on. I barely had time to find flashlights before it went out and stayed out.
I bought new flashlights today!!
Stay warm, everyone! It's about 19 today.. wind chill is around 10, I think.
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I'm in Missouri but am from Houston. They are supposed to get 7 inches of snow there tomorrow night. That is the most I've even known them to have! We had about 6 in of snow back in '61, but that is it. (light snows now and then, but nothing much)
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Not below zero here but going to be below freezing every night this week and only hovering around freezing during the day. So, now for the last two weeks the furnace has decided to malfunction, and two visits from technician haven't fixed it. Don't have a lot of confidence in this guy. So far no call back after three left phone messages and an email.
Owner of the business today tells me he has been out of town for a week. Yeah, but the technician hasn't and he doesn't call back either.
Where are the honest repair people? Have had endless trouble with them, of one kind or another.
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Oh I hate to say it, but the trees are in bloom, birds are soaring and chirping, sun is shining in Cali. I walk everyday just to see it all.
We have no water/ in a severe drought, so it may all go up in tinder flames at any minute, but it is gorgeous here. For a MN gal, it's heaven.
I'll get mine, tho. Also on propane, and haven't got the winter bill yet. Stay safe everyone.
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Propane is a very real problem for elderly and the poor.
Last week reports say it went from $2.39 a gallon to over $5.50 in ONE WEEK.
They are only delivering 200 gallon at a time and saying none for rest of a month.
Already there was a family of five that their house caught fire and all died. The roof collapsed when firemen got there
They pulled out tons of electric space heaters after the fire.
MOST old house wiring will not handle multiple heaters on a circuit and in total.
So how are people going to survive? Probably wood, corn, and pellets burning but putting in a new stove this time of year equals no fun and expensive
Out of most peoples budget. natural gas is going up too but not as fast.
Temp here this morning when off to work I go,,,.3,,,yep 3 tenths of a degree.
The huge story yesterday was 65 mph winds again. It made the electric wires bang together and set off fires in the dry grass underneath
Its cold and dry and fire about burned into a whole town. Came across 2 miles of corn stalk fields 10 to 12 feet high flames
And pushed by 45 to 65 mph wind. It was controlled but still burning this morning.
First time I ever heard of they had to cut down trees to get the tree completely free of fire.
They continued burning standing straight up otherwise.
They had several of these going at once. A whole town was so full of smoke could not see across the street and hard to breath.
They had to evacuate one whole end of town as they thought they were going to lose it
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minus 15 tonight without wind chill. I pray the electricity stays on. Even though my furnace runs on natural gas, I need the power to run the blower.
My heart and prayers go out to the town that just don mentioned.
It's been a wacky winter here. Never in my 30 years of teaching have we used all 5 emergency snow days. We are on our 6th tomorrow. May be going to school all summer at this rate--LOL.
Blessings of warmth to all.
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Wow Don. I had no real idea about the propane until this thread. Sending prayers--
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Wind chill minus who knows what tonight...minus 35 or colder...no school again tomorrow.
Talk around town is that people are paying huge amounts for propane IF you can get it at all.
Worried about fixed income and poor people.
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Sounds like we are going to have a lot of deaths from this winter. Very sad.
Don.. That is horrible about the fires. And the space heaters.. I can understand how that would happen. How awful.
Just wondering though.. why are the corn stalks still in the fields?
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hiker -
you could see about getting a thermostat that has a backup battery system, so the gas furnace will still work even if the power goes out. that is what i have been told anyway. have not put it to the test yet.
these are common plain jane digital thermostats. the batteries are just two AA alkaline batteries.
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poppy, The thermostat isnt the problem,,,you need electricity for the blower motor and the ignitor on a modern furnace
The gas valve opens with electricity also
Tutu, The cornstalks are always in the field,,,all that is harvested is the ear of corn for grain. Actually the cob is still there too.
Always had a city friend who asked why farmers left their corn in the fields till it froze and got ruined from turning brown.
their impression was corn for grain had to be like sweet corn, harvested wet and green.
Corn for grain has to dry down to 15% moisture to 'keep' and not spoil
The stalks stay in the field as residue either for cows to munch on or as fertilizer for next crop as it decays
Its called organic material. ONLY time it is all taken off is when you chop silage for cattle feed.
Otherwise you plant soybeans right into it the next year under a rotation system or more corn
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Thanks Don. I am trying to figure out now why they even put those batteries in the thermostat if they don't help keep the gas furnace running in power outage. The thermostat is wired in, so what good are the batteries?
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poppy-my heater is like yours and wont run without elec
it is one year old and i have had problems with it i am sure because the guys putting it in didnt know what they were doing.
so frustrating-i hate to let them work on it cuz i know they are breaking it worse...but here you cant call someone else to fix it-there are laws...i would have to change companies and that costs a lot...you pay one to remove the tanks and the other to bring in new tanks...
so i could try to keep pipes from freezing if i lose elec.
it says you can use it inside...my carbon monoxide thingy is wired in so i guess it wont work if no elec
do you think this is really safe...ive been told for so long to never run a heater like that in the house
but omg...if my pipes freeze...they are in a a slab...it will mean jack-hammar in the middle of winter...omg...it would be so awful
around here they are doubling up and stuff for homeless...churches opening up...but there has been food shortage for them all winter
i too hope all are able to stay safe
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poppy, my thermostat does have a backup battery system, but the blower on the furnace uses electricity to propel the natural gas heat.
I rarely lose electricity, so I am hoping that is the case this winter. Much warmer today, but more snow on the way Friday and Sat.
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Kayak...We use a buddy heater in our ice shack...it is safe to use indoors.
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Thanks for the explanation, don! I think in Texas they use the stalks for feeding the cattle. All I know is that it's not left in the fields. That's why I was wondering. I thought they baled it, but I could be wrong.
I'm not always around when they harvest, but the stalks are always gone by winter time.
(the stalks do stay until they are dry and the corn is harvested...just saying that so you know I am familiar with the dried corn being harvested that way)
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they are probably plowing ot tilling them under by then maybe.
If they are left in the field their main job is the 'catch' snow. They make the best snow fence,
If a field is bare all the snow blows to the road and drifts.
Nary a snowlake to catch today. Our state motto- if you dont like the weather wait twenty minutes it will change.
Sometimes wait a day tho.
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Plenty of snow and wind here--just started and I decided to skip the grocery shopping instead of sliding into the store.
Will to go when there is even more snow--LOL--on Saturday.
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It was practically balmy today at 52 sunny degrees!
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Seven inches plus of snow here. We have a butt-load of snow this winter.
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