Ive had a huge setback and alot of my symptoms are flaring up. I thought I was out of the clear- been through ALOT Of stress and nothing really seemed to "get me" or just "get me" for a day or two. So now, I do realize that I immediately have to jump back on abx,
but I've had a wrong done to me that time just won't heal and Im seriously seriously depressed. I keep hearing commercials about Cymbalta, this and that,
but I don't want to take anything thats going to end up further hurting me. But at this point, I'll try it.
If anyone has any ideas on how to forgive someone, let me know. Cause im having one heck of a time.
My symptoms that are back are: eye twitching ( this was my first symptom) Headaches Dizziness Extreme mood swings hallucinations fatigue feeling like not wanting to do anything shoulder/neck/jaw pain blurred vision brain fog low grade fevers a constant cough- and coughing up stuff like I have a lung infection frequent sore throats Orthostatic hypotension ( of all things to come back, why this?) Frequent sweating when moving around. Cold sweats
Here we go again
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Remember that forgiveness is a gift you give YOURSELF. It will take TIME and alot of prayer!
Not forgiving can lead to depression and all the stuff that goes along with it.
That said, I believe Lyme causes terrible depression. Anti-depressants are the one thing I haven't been able to get off of YET.
I take trazodone and mangosteen [the big X] for my depression.
I hope you can make it through this and come out better for it....ONE DAY at a time!
Posted by lymeinhell (Member # 4622) on :
COL - I'm so sorry to see you posting again lately.... and to hear of your distress.
First - what to take if you want to try an avoid ending up with a prescription addiction...
Rhodiola - protects the body against the effects of stress. Twice a day on an empty stomach - really really works...
Essential Oils: I was on an oil therapy that help keep me calm and helped with the dizzies. If you can tolerate scents, it was hugely helpful. Juniper, Geranium, and Peppermint.
(I swear I used to go out in my car at lunch from work when I got stressed and be sniffing these oils... and when I returned, I was clear headed and balanced... and smelled quite purty too.)
How do you forgive someone?? Hmmm.
My guess is you're already past the ****ed off stage. So forgive yourself for getting hurt, and think about it as a learning experience and not a loss. And if you're able to... bury yourself in a good book, or stencil something or plant something. Busy busy is good therapy.
And when you have a little bit of time between you and the offending incident, then and only then do you decide if that person is worthy of your forgiveness....
This too shall pass. Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
So sorry about the wicked return of symptoms.
I would have said what Julie said about forgiveness if I could have worded it as well. (she's good isn't she?)
Anyway, I'm here if you want to talk/vent/flip-out. In the meantime... hugs coming your way. Posted by hopeful123 (Member # 3244) on :
sorry you're having a rough time. i totally agree with tutu that forgiveness is something you do for yourself.
i am taking paxil and wellbutrin cr or xl. can't remember which. i don't want to be taking these drugs. started with wellbutrin. added the paxil a little later. big difference in ability to concentrate. so, you may have added benefit if you go this route.
good luck.
venting is a good thing.
best hopeful123
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
The offending party basically doesn't care if you forgive them. YOU need the release that forgiveness brings.
It takes time. You can't forgive someone overnight.
Posted by JeffM (Member # 8919) on :
I take 20 mg prozac, but I do not believe it has helped with some of the neuropsychiatric lyme / herx problems because those are caused by inflammation in the brain, which SSRI's can't address. I think there is only so much human possible to avoid some of the suffering of this disease.
Posted by char (Member # 8315) on :
about how to forgive...
a couple ideas from one who has had trouble forgiving...
**it is harder to forgive when you are clinically depressed, even mildly because your mind tends toward the negative and fixating on things. It sounds kind of "wrong", but taking a pill has helped me forgive and move on.
**writing in a journal is a big help
**most important one is prayer. We are weak and forgiving must be up there on the hardest spiritual disciplines of all list. I have had to start with "Dear God please help me to lay this bitterness down long enough to pray for you to help me lay this down." When I was really sick I could only eek out 1 sentence prayers, some just anger, but God has answered a lot of my prayers (even ones where I was cursing!) and helped us a lot. Not to encourage swear prayers, but got to be honest. I believe God listens and cares and I will pray that you get some encouragement asap.
Take Care,
Char
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by JeffM: I take 20 mg prozac, but I do not believe it has helped with some of the neuropsychiatric lyme / herx problems because those are caused by inflammation in the brain, which SSRI's can't address.
I would suppose this is why the mangosteen has helped my poor brain. It's a great anti-inflammatory.
Crime....are you there??
Posted by TheCrimeOfLyme (Member # 4019) on :
yeah im here thanks for the replies
Posted by minoucat (Member # 5175) on :
Jodi, are you sleeping OK? Because sleep deprivation can do terrible things, too. If you're not, I'd suggest something like temazepam first, since it has many anti-anxiety properties (at least, it did for me).
At my worst period of depression, after I started sleeping again, I took paxil for 2 months. I never took more than the lowest doses, but even that kept me calm enough to start thinking clearly again and stop the endless squirrel-cage obsessive thoughts. Paxil caused no problems for me and I went off it easily but I know that others werent so lucky.
Theanine is an OTC supplement, very calming and can help you sleep. St. John's Wort can help, but be careful what you combine it with. Vitamin B shots helped me also. Magnesium helped some.
Also, how are you doing in the yeast department? Because if you've been doing some comfort eating you may be feeling yeastie beastie.
I never had any success dealing with "issues" when I was quite sick. Once I had the bugs under control a lot of the obsessive thoughts, rage, and heartache dropped away by themselves
Big hugs to you.
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
I cant say I get depression but I have been depressed it usualy dosent last long Jodie. But in the past I would just pray first and if I still didnt get over it I would find a nice beutiful spot on the weekend and drink beer.
But a few months ago I found this herb from russia its called Rhodiola rosea its a a Adaptogens it realy has calmed me down it has smoothed a lot of the mountains into dips and shallow valleys. But dont take it other than in the morning not afternoon it has a quality of making dreams more visual and dramatic and it it can increase your libido ie sex dreams which was quite a surprize hahaha. Anyway Jodie heres a link to it in Newbie Links.
A ps it also helps your body run right including increasing a womans ability to have babies and a mans sperm become more viable.
They sell it at GNC
Posted by Cobweb (Member # 10053) on :
"I forgive you" she said just before throwing the duck into the alligator pit. Works for me. Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
up for col
Posted by hopeful123 (Member # 3244) on :
COBWEB
Posted by iceskater (Member # 8655) on :
My stepdad has a velcro football doll in the teams uniform that we use to alleviate frustrations. The nice thing is you can pull it apart and then put it back together again! It got a real work out this past week with Monday night football.Particularly, since the team did not win.Forgiveness is hard for me, I tend to work out my frustrations in a positive manner or a cute manner like the doll pulling apart.
All kidding aside, on celexa for depression and pain control. It is helpful but doesnt eradicate all the symptoms, Much better than nothing though.
Hope that you get relief from your symptoms soon.
Posted by TheCrimeOfLyme (Member # 4019) on :
Thank you all for your replies. I have a significant case of just really not wanting to be around much, goes right along with the depression, blows to my self esteem, feeling of self worth, hopelessness, etc. They aren't lying- depression can hurt. My neck hasnt hurt me this bad in a long time. But thanks for the suggestions. I'll be getting something to take soon. Lord knows i need it. And him to be honest.
Posted by TNhayley (Member # 8249) on :
For what it's worth, I've tried about all of the antidpressants. Some had side effects that were very undesirable.
The only one that I have found, so far, that really helps and does not have the side effects, FOR ME, has been Cymbalta.
I had no trouble getting off this, personally.
I was very anti- antidepressant and resisted taking any for years. Over time, I realized that I needed the help, and that I wasn't weak or stupid or any of those things ... just needed to admit that at some points in life, you can't simply think it through clearly.
Also, again for what it's worth, since I'm not taking any anti-depress right now (and that may change soon) I have been taking some homeopathic remedies. From Futureplex: HRMNY, and NU-DRCTN.
HRMNY's label says: For temporary relief of minor symptoms related to shocks, grief or disappointment and restlessness. NU-DRCTN: For temporary relief os symptoms related to feelings of being stuck, fear of change and letting go of the past.
These were gven to me by my chiro after I was having some big anger and forgiveness issues. They do seem to help, but not at the level of an anti-depress.
Sorry you are haing such a difficult time,
Hayley
Posted by just don (Member # 1129) on :
Crime of Lyme,
When I need it most, I take a heaping tablespoon full of--- yep----"Crime of Lyme" ,,,makes me smile every time. Just reading what SHE wrote is the "BEST".
I know you have been in a rough spot for a long time. You are a wonderful beautiful young lady,,,and dont ever forget it!! Happiness is right around the corner. Which one? I dunno, but one of them,keep checkin.
Your kids ae the most precious gift you have. Keep them close to your heart,,,always!! Smile with them, they are the best antidote.
Any chance you an change the scenery for even a brief time?? Even a short road trip to someplace special??? With or without your kids, whichever is most relaxing for you!!! Take in something or somewhere you ordinarily would NOT go, someplace special you always wanted to!!! Go see a ball game, opera, anything you always wanted to and never ever did!! Plus one more thing you really enjoy doing and have enjoyed. Makes a good combo!!! I still B --just don--
Posted by sometimesdilly (Member # 9982) on :
Here's another big cheer and vote for rhodiola rosea, on an empty stomach, for lifting stress, fatigue, and yes, depression.
My LLMD, who has not suggested a single other supplement, recommended it.
As for forgiving. I second everyone who says it is yourself who you must forgive. And I think to do that it helps to understand why it was you were in whatever relationship it was. There's usually a deeper- than- it- seems reason.
For me, when I've found it, I usually see that I have given more than I have received, out of a kind of neediness or insecurity. My anger is really directed at myself --for allowing that kind of imbalance.
Or, maybe, at a deeper still level- the anger wells up from unremembered times long ago when the foundations for that neediness or insecurity were being laid.
It may sound silly to you, but when and if you dig down to feelings like that (if you have any!) what really works is to give yourself huge hugs. Literally. Wrap your arms around yourself, rock back and forth, and tell yourself that you are loved,that you deserve nothing but love.
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