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Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
These pregnancy homrmones are killing me! They say I miscarried (I am going to ask for another ultrasound in a week if I still have not bled), but I think I still have the symptoms because I have sore breasts, cravings, and severe nausea.

How did you ladies deal with nausea when you were pregnant (keeping in mind I am probably not truly pregnant but basically it is the same thing right now)? It is terrible...I have it everyday and it is hard to know what the right thing to do is....eat throughout the day in small meals? Eat just once or twice? Distract myself? Sit still?

So far I have only barfed twice but I have had some really close calls that died down.

I have heard ginger helps but I have had ginger tea before and really hated it, so I am worried it would make me puke.

Any other ideas? I think I also just need to vent and whine!!!!! So sick of feeling like I'm on the verge of puking.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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If you don't like ginger tea, ginger capsules would be good, then. And you'd get a therapeutic dose of about 500 mg per capsule, 3 x a day.

As a capsule, you won't taste it.

It widely used in morning sickness and even to quell nausea from chemo.

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Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
My husband just left to get me ginger losenges. Should I ask him to get me ginger pills too? I guess I was worried they would give me heartburn or something. I am really indecisive right now. Maybe I will have him check the price of the capsules.
 
Posted by DeafFromLyme (Member # 18795) on :
 
I had severe nusea with my son, and my doctor told me to take B6 and Unisom. At night of course, but it REALLY Helped!
 
Posted by mazou (Member # 15319) on :
 
Ginger capsules worked wonders for me.
 
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
Okay, my husband ended up getting me some ginger capsules, and they do seem to have helped some. Thank goodness! [Smile]

Thanks!!! If I need something more, maybe I will try the B6 and Unisom.
 
Posted by fighter (Member # 20170) on :
 
hoosiers -

i have LOTS of nausea from my gastroparesis. at one point i was taking 6 or 7 zofran pills a day just to be able to sit in class without puking! and it was still just barely bearable.

a little while back, i found an acupressure-point band on-line that's really worked well for me.

i got this one, but i'm sure any of em work.
http://www.morningsicknesshelp.com/biobands.html

i had very little faith in it when i first tried it, but it has been a wonderful thing and made a serious difference for me personally.

not promising it'll work for u, but it's definitely worth a try.
 
Posted by Starfall1969 (Member # 17353) on :
 
I drank lots of ginger ale, did the B6 and Unisom, and also ate lots of saltines.

I was very nauseated with both my boys.

It also helpe dto never let my stomach get completely empty.
 
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
 
I was afraid to take ANYTHING and was sick for six months with each.

I'm so confused, hoos. If you are indeed pregnant, nausea is a good sign.

When I miscarried, I wasn't sick. When I was sick, I carried healthy babies. Doc confirmed this.
 
Posted by Parisa (Member # 10526) on :
 
What you want to do is not get hungry. If you wait until you are hungry, it'll be too late and then you'll be really nauseous. Have some crackers by your bed and eat them before you move. Small snacks throughout the day can be a big help.
 
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
I go to the doctor again tomorrow, so I am hoping and praying for the best. Maybe there is still a chance. Any prayers are appreciated.

Thanks for the additional tips.
 
Posted by blinkie (Member # 14470) on :
 
I will pray for you Hoosiers. Please let us know.
 
Posted by Starfall1969 (Member # 17353) on :
 
Any news, Hoosiers?
 
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
Well, I got more ultrasounds on Monday (vaginal and abdomen), and there was something small seen in the gestational sac, but the radiologist who looked at it believed it was not a living baby.

To me this was difficult, because nothing was seen in the sac two weeks ago....so I was like, well maybe it is the baby, but it is just smaller than it should be?

But my OB, who spoke with me on the phone after speaking to the radiologist, didn't have too many answers but seems to think it was just some kind of non-viable tissue.

It just looked like a tiny little rod.

I am over 10 weeks along by now, so whatever is going on, the pregnancy has not been progressing as it should.

They drew hormone blood levels, and we are still waiting to get those back. That should tell me more than the ultrasound....because I just am having a hard time believing that the ultrasound can give us an answer either way (dunno if that is denial, but I would rather wait to see the results of the bloodwork).


Thank you for all the prayers. I VERY much appreciate them. It has kept me going.

Honestly, right now, it is seeming like this is not a viable pregnancy, but there are still questions I guess because nothing has passed yet.

I do still have symptoms, but the last two days they have been a little diminished. I am also feeling kind of PMS-y, so that might be a sign the hormones are dropping. [Frown]

I think my OB wants me to get a D&C next week....but I may want another ultrasound before then, especially considering something was seen on Monday that wasn't there before.


I was hoping for a clear-cut answer but unfortunately we still don't have that, though it is getting closer, and everything is pointing to the fact that this pregnancy is not working out.

Thank you SO MUCH again for the support. I will come back and update what the bloodwork says.
 
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
I got the results of the bloodwork back and they are not good.

2 weeks ago, my Hcg levels were twice what they are now.

So basically, this confirms a miscarriage is occurring even though I am still in a pregnant state.

My OB wants me to get a D&C as soon as possible because I am almost at 11 weeks and she considers that pretty far for nothing passing yet, so I have to see the doctor who will perform it first, then they will schedule the procedure probably next week.

I think I am doing okay with it. I am ready to move on and try to get in better health. Maybe this is how things were supposed to turn out, because once we are blessed with another child, maybe I will be in a much better condition to enjoy the experience and care for the baby.

Needless to say we will be much more strict with our birth control until the time comes that we are ready to try for the next baby.

Thank you again to those who have been following me through this long process. Thank you for all your kind words and for being so caring, even though you have never met me.
 
Posted by blinkie (Member # 14470) on :
 
Hi Hoosiers. I'm sorry to hear this sad news. I really was feeling optimistic for you. But, you are right...when you are in better health, it will be more enjoyable and the baby will have a better chance of NOT having lyme.

Please try to stay positive. your hormones will be dropping so you may go through a depressing period with this. Hang tough.

At least this proves you can get pregnant and many women aren't that lucky.

God bless you and your husband I will pray for healing for you.
 
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
 
Hoos. I'm pro-life and I did a D&C. If the tissue doesn't come out (with no baby), it can get diseased.

Your hormones will crash, and with Lyme it will intensify. So ride this raft and be gentle to yourself.
 
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
Thank you blinkie and kelmo.


I am very confused right now though. I just did a little 'research'....and it did not take long at all first to see that it is NORMAL for the HCG to fall after the 10th week (or even as early as the 8th week!)....and also that my levels are pretty high compared to a lot of women.

The low end of acceptable hcg for the week I am in (week 10) was 15,000 and I am at 39,000!!!!

I am kind of mad at my doctor right now because I feel mislead. If she thinks I need a D&C because of my ultrasounds, that is fine to say, but she was implying my hormone results were sealing the deal, yet I'm just not sure about that now.

The only thing I can think is that they dropped *too much* over a 2 week period (honestly more like 2 1/2 weeks)....but it is normal for them to drop at this point, so I am surprised she would make this sound abnormal.

Does anyone have thoughts on this????

Also, I am concerned my ultrasounds are measuring too far behind because we had unprotected sex on the 27th day of my cycle, so theoretically I could have conceived like 2 weeks later then they think I did. (but, at that point, it makes my dropping hormone levels stranger because that would put me at week 8, but it is still possible for them to drop in week 8).

Thanks for any insight! Hugs!!!!!!!
 
Posted by blinkie (Member # 14470) on :
 
I would hang tight until more is known. I do think they should see something in the sac though. Mine was visable at 5.5 weeks and was clearly viable.

But, that does not mean anything for sure. I don't think waiting is going to hurt. and get a second opinion.
 
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
 
Hoos...I get updates from the Mycoplasma registry (since that was the first indicator my daughter was ill). This arrived in my box today. Thought it would be informative:
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Avoiding Miscarriage in Pregnancy
By: Dr Cary Presant MD
HealthNews - Carslbad,CA,USA - June 4, 2009
<http://www.healthnews.com/blogs/cary-presant/family-health/pregnancy-childbirth-parenting/avoiding-miscarriage-pregnancy-3239.html>

Pregnancy can be one of the most rewarding experiences in a woman's (and man's) life. However, many pregnancies are not successful. A miscarriage, a failure of a woman to deliver a healthy baby, is common.

Miscarriage occurs in 15 to 20 percent of women who know they are pregnant, usually before the 13th week of pregnancy.

However, most experts recognize that the true frequency of miscarriage is probably about 50 percent since many pregnancies spontaneously fail even before a second period is missed.

What are the causes of miscarriage? Many pregnancies have spontaneous abortions because of anatomical problems with the uterus itself.

Other pregnancies are unsuccessful because the developing fetus has abnormalities that prevent the pregnancy from proceeding. These miscarriages cannot be avoided.

However, other factors can potentially be addressed with a result of a successful pregnancy.

It is recognized that the risk of miscarriages goes up 100 percent if a woman is over age 40 when she is pregnant. Because of this, women should consider having children at somewhat younger ages, certainly before the mother has reached her 40th birthday.

It is important to discuss the likelihood of success of your pregnancy with your physician if you have already reached the age of 35.

Importantly, miscarriage rates are 40 percent higher if the mother smokes. Therefore, women should make every attempt to quit smoking prior to becoming pregnant, and once pregnant, women should work with their physician to reduce the likelihood of smoking.

There are many smoking support groups which can help in this regard, and there are medications which can help to stop smoking.

In addition, hormonal disorders such as diabetes and thyroid disease can result in increased rates of unsuccessful pregnancy.

Because of this, having a physician and getting good control of diabetes and thyroid conditions is necessary to assure successful outcome of a pregnancy.

Alcohol is a dangerous in pregnancy, but its danger is due to the fact that alcohol can produce fetal abnormalities in the developing child.

Some of these abnormalities can result in miscarriage, but alcohol itself does not directly produce miscarriage. Because of its danger to the fetus, however, alcohol should always be avoided during pregnancy.

Certain unusual infections have been associated with increased likelihood of miscarriage. These infections include:
- syphilis
- mycoplasma
- toxoplasmosis
- chicken pox
- and even herpes simplex.

Because of this, women should be evaluated for these conditions if they are thinking of getting pregnant, and should be treated to cure any infection prior to becoming pregnant.

In addition, women should not be exposed to these infections during the course of the pregnancy.

Many miscarriages are due to abnormalities in clotting. Women who have lupus, inflammatory diseases associated with a positive anti-nuclear antibody test (ANA test), and women who have a tendency to abnormal and excessive blood clotting, known as hypercoagulable states or thrombophilia, have a much higher frequency of losing the baby.

Many of these patients have a condition known as APL syndrome (anti-phospholipid syndrome), which results in excessive blood clots such as venous thrombosis (phlebitis in the legs) or even pulmonary embolus (blood clot in the lung).

Women who have these conditions can be treated with blood thinners throughout their pregnancy to help to reduce the likelihood they will have a miscarriage.

In a recent article, Dr. C. Laskin and his colleagues from the University of Toronto (Journal of Rheumatology, Volume 36, page 279, 2009), studied over 800 women who had a history of recurring pregnancy loss, and who had the APL syndrome, thrombophilia, or a positive ANA test.

Of the 88 women who became pregnant during the course of this study, the patient's were randomized to either receive aspirin alone, or aspirin plus daily injections of low molecular weight heparin (LMWH).

As a result of the anti-coagulation either with the combination or with aspirin alone, over 75 percent of the women gave birth to live healthy babies.

This trial indicates that even simple approaches such as aspirin, or the more usual approach of aspirin plus LMWH, can result in very successful pregnancies even if women have a tendency to excessive blood clotting and a prior history of miscarriages.

Women who have a family history of blood clots, or who have a personal history of blood clots, should always discuss this condition with their obstetricians at the very first sign of pregnancy so that appropriate blood tests can be performed to determine if the woman is at risk of losing the pregnancy due to excessive clotting.

In conclusion, to have the greatest likelihood of a successful pregnancy, women must get good prenatal care.

This prenatal care not only addresses the use of vitamins and iron to prevent abnormalities in the fetus and prevent anemia in the mother, but also should include evaluation of these serious risk factors for miscarriage.

By paying excellent attention to your family history, your personal habits, your history of other illnesses, and your history of unusual blood clotting, you will have a greater chance of having a successful pregnancy and a happier and better quality of life.
 
Posted by Starfall1969 (Member # 17353) on :
 
Hoos,

So sorry to hear about the sad news.

I don't know what the answer is about the hormone levels.

I was at around 12 weeks when I finally passed the sac and whatever else when I miscarried.

It seems to me, if I remember right, that my hormone levels didn't drop like they should have either, but I was also bleeding.

I wonder if your Lyme could be affecting the hormone levels, making them read abnormally?

Whatever happens, I pray that you will get through it. Just be gentle with yourself, and do what you have to do to get through.
 


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