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Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
I'd like to purchase a 2 person sauna with my income tax refund, and I'm wondering if anyone has one they'd recommend?

Thanks!

Holly
 
Posted by massman (Member # 18116) on :
 
Sunlight. EXCELLENT quality.
 
Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
Thanks!
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I have a Sunlight.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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I have severe MCS. I've been around two Sunlight saunas, one years old, one brand new, as my next door neighbor unpacked and then right after he had his set up. Too bad he would not even let me pay him for my use of it . . . but I was not bothered at all any of those times being around the woods or other products used. Now, I did not USE either sauna, but, still, I often get clobbered by any new woods. That I did so well speaks very highly of Sunlight.


In addition to Sunlight, Heavenly Heat is a highly reputable FIR sauna - Far infrared sauna. Heavenly Heat uses more glass and it's the brand that many MCS specialist recommend for their patients who are most ill.

Why a FIR?

It is the LOW heat, "far infrared" that you want, not the high heat of others. and the infrared is very helpful for deep penetration without overheating. Regular saunas do not have that.

While some here High Tech Health saunas and they are fine for them, they were lucky. If you look to buy a USED one, you still might find one of that brand that is good - but, beware, there are some bad ones with their label out there.

Some High Tech Health had bad woods used a while back and they did not honor their customers around that. I have a friend who had one and it was a disaster for her.

Not all their models were affected but there was legal documentation proving many were. Even if they corrected the problem, they now deny it ever happened and they did not reimburse their customers who became worse from the bad units.

For those reasons, I would never want to give that company a dime as how could you ever trust them again? I can see that any product can have faults now and then but the company should step up to the plate in all manners around that.

Still, if you find a used model, if it is a good one and not from the bad plywoods, you may have found a bargain. You would need to visually inspect the wood in all parts of the sauna either before purchase or immediately upon receipt. Plywoods can be dressed up, so you really need someone who knows woods.

My friend was not the only one affected - I saw the plywood on the back and the top. I saw how much sicker she got trying to use this, even under correct specifications as to timing, etc.

Also see this link as it describes others' horrific adventures with High Tech Health:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/214254.html

[Autism-Mercury] Re: Ready to Buy a Sauna, Any Advice?

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Also, as nice as it may sound, it is best to avoid sound systems in saunas. The plastics used off-gas and can clobber you. You can sing, though ! I even thought if I were to ever get a sauna that, without the heat on, it would make a nice practice room for all sorts of musical endeavors.

Also be sure not to take into a sauna any plastic items, either, even beverage containers. They off-gas, too . . . and lately there's been so much in the news about how we should not be drinking out of plastic, anyway.
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Posted by Elaine G (Member # 20735) on :
 
I have an Elixir Therapy. Love it.
 
Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
Thanks for all the input. I really appreciate it. I guess I'm lucky that I don't suffer from MCS, but it's good to know what to avoid.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Even if you don't have MCS, it is vital to avoid any sauna that has toxic glues or has used any "manufactured" woods, plywoods or composite woods as they contain glues with formaldehyde that are very dangerous for ANY body.

I'm glad you don't have MCS but, especially because of lyme's effect on the liver, you still need to guard yourself from chemicals so that your chances of developing MCS will be less. To some degree, sometimes, MCS can be prevented - by avoiding exposures to many petroleum products and chemically-laden fabrics that off-gas for months and years after the purchase date.

Even the most healthy individuals can acquire MCS with just one very bad exposure - or several lesser ones over time. All the scented products on the market don't help, either. Many will go on to develop MCS with overexposure to unnecessary fake perfumes. Our bodies were not intended to be bombarded with so many chemicals.

For the lyme patient, it becomes harder because lyme is so very toxic in itself and puts more strain on the liver to keep up, thereby increasing the risks for MCS to develop.

So, while it is excellent that you don't have MCS, I really hope it stays that way. It's far easier to avoid some of the chemical stressors than trying to undo the damage.

Good luck with your decision process and happy sauna to you ! I think you will find using a FIR sauna to be very enjoyable and helpful, from all accounts.

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Posted by lymewreck36 (Member # 4395) on :
 
So....we're saying that the Sunlight brand and the Heavenly Heat brand are safe to use?

I'm also looking into FIR Sauna.

Mary
 
Posted by lymewreck36 (Member # 4395) on :
 
Oops!!!! Forgot to ask...

Carbon or Ceraamic heaters???

Mary
 
Posted by unsure445 (Member # 15962) on :
 
Great question regarding the heaters being Carbon or ceramic. It can make a big difference in the cost.

Anyone?
 
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
I have heard the carbon ones are better.

I use the "portable" one from www.nationalpoolwholesalers.com and I like it.

It smells some in the beginning, but it gets better. It is only $199 right now.


I am not affiliated with the above company in any way, no money to gain, etc.
 
Posted by Hoosiers51 (Member # 15759) on :
 
Also, in my opinion, you definitely wanna go FIR.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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FIR Sauna is just the nickname for the fuller term for FAR INFRARED. Yes, that is what you want.

I would avoid any with vinyl, though, as that is a petroleum product and off-gasses stuff that's not good for us, even from a vinyl shower curtain. Be sure to read all the materials - avoid all plastics, vinyls (you'll have to google for the names). Also be aware if any flame retardants are used - you want to avoid all chemicals.
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Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
Isn't that funny, because I read that ceramic is better than carbon. I guess it all depends on who you talk to.
 
Posted by lymewreck36 (Member # 4395) on :
 
Carbon heats up slower than ceramic. Ceramic is more prone to breaking during a move.....they are glass.

That's all I can figure right now.

mary
 
Posted by Elaine G (Member # 20735) on :
 
Carbon is better. Ceramic is old technology.

I used a ceramic sauna at a local spa. The ceramic rods burned my legs, back, etc. I couldn't lean back because the rod was so concentrated in heat it burned the area that was close to it.

I bought a carbon heater sauna. What a huge difference.

I don't get burned and sweat faster and more sweat than the ceramic heater. I just love it and I really feel it is helping me with detox.

If I don't use it for 2 days, I feel the difference.
 
Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
Thanks, Elaine. Guess I'll go with Carbon.
 
Posted by map1131 (Member # 2022) on :
 
Etherealgirl, have you been using saunas for a long period and found them beneficial to you?
I found them to be harmful to me several years ago.

I couldn't figure out why, but eventually I realized I had a mouth full of toxic medals for years. It seems saunas can move those heavy metal toxins around the body and cause one to be even more toxic.

Also in those days I learned that my body wasn't a good detox machine. It took years of protocols to train my body on how to release toxins.

Just some food for thought.

Pam
 
Posted by Karen Mc (Member # 23354) on :
 
THNAKS for post map1131...

I am seriously considering getting a portable sauna.. but I too have a mouth full of metal fillings.

My LLMD had even committed on it during my first visit and on follow up visits.

I don't understand this detox stuff so I don't think I have done any real major detox methods...just epson salt baths.

So...this is certainly something I want to consider BEFORE forking out more money on sauna.

Thanks so much for the insight.

Karen (:
 
Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
Actually it's been a few years since I've actively detoxed, but I didn't have any trouble with it back then. I'm basically pretty healthy and am in full remission from Lyme. This is more of a preventative measure for me, and hopefully a way to lose some weight. Plus I just love the heat!
 
Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
 
Here is a complaint about Sunlight sauna. Anyone know if there is truth in his complaint?

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/sunlight-saunas-c248672.html
 
Posted by peacemama (Member # 17666) on :
 
I do know that my doc ordered the cedar corner sauna and when she had someone test the emfs with a gaussmeter they were higher than ANY sauna the testing guy had ever seen.

I have the 1 person, basswood and serious EMF sensitivity, but I don't have a problem with it.

we have high radon in the basement, where the sauna is and I haven't had a sauna in two weeks. I am miserable. I can't wait to have the radon mitigated in a couple of weeks. I LOVE my sunlight. And, they offer a $100 to the person who refers you, if you mention them, which is great. When my doc bought one, I got $100 and the person who told me about it got $100 when I mentioned her name.
 
Posted by peacemama (Member # 17666) on :
 
Oh, and I have ice in my mouth during my saunas. I still have 2 quadrants full of mercury filling. I just don't let them get hot at all.
 
Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
I went with the Precision Therapy 2 person Hemlock Sauna with Carbon heaters. They are offering free shipping, free light therapy kit and free mp3 player upgrade. Yes, I got one with a stereo. Hopefully it won't make me sick, but I'll let you all know once I get it in about a week.
 
Posted by bonafidejason (Member # 24472) on :
 
can we go over this ceramic vs. carbon thing again?
I read that Solid Ceramic Flat Plate Concave Emitters (rather than ceramic rods or carbon) give off the most infrared... 96 percent at 163 watts

Unfortunately i got this information from Promolife which sells Therasaunas (pretty expensive) but they also admit that only Saunagen uses an equally good emitter and they are about half the price.

I think in my research I verified that this info is correct from some objective sources but i can't find them right now. I am looking into buying a Saunagen which is based in Sacramento, CA. I might drive out there soon. Saunagen is Chinese-made though, and Therasauna is American made.
 
Posted by steelbone (Member # 14014) on :
 
I ordered a sunlight sauna last week- Hope to have it soon
 
Posted by Karen Mc (Member # 23354) on :
 
the ice in the mouth thing sounds like a good idea peacemama...I really want to try to get one when I can afford but I also have a mouth full of fillings so I will have to keep the ice in the mouth idea handy.

Thanxs
 
Posted by maureen2174 (Member # 11471) on :
 
how much are the 2 person sunlight saunas?
 
Posted by EtherealGirl (Member # 4780) on :
 
I bought my sauna from National Pool Wholesalers for under $1300 shipped. We put it together in about an hour and I've been in it every day with no chemical sensitivity whatsoever. I just love it and can't wait to get in it every day!
 


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