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Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Welcome to God Thought...starting another new week.

TGIM! Thank God It's Marvelous to know Him!

May you be encouraged and blessed by God Thought...just like I am.

"...be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ" (Ephesians 5:18-20, NIV).

Father God Thank You for Your (this list is inspired from sjo's list from last week)

Love,
Care,
and Good Plans for me, my family, and friends.

So....what are you thankful for? It is that time of year.

[hi] [group hug]
 
Posted by momlyme (Member # 27775) on :
 
I am grateful for learning something new every day, even when it hurts to learn. I am grateful for my family, and that somehow we have the money for treatment that we need. I am grateful for our health insurance, which has been outstanding. I am grateful for having this website to use for a tool for learning.

---and I am grateful for this thread! TGIM!! Usually I just lurk and read posts. Today, I felt compelled to write. Thank you for being here!
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Heather, Thank you so much for posting...so glad you "felt compelled to write." You're an inspiration.

You sure have a lot going on...your son having LD... He is blessed to have you as his mom looking out for him, researching, and on top of that your positive grateful, attitude. WOW! That makes a huge difference.

Yeah...counting our blessings IS a blessing!

And reading others as they are counting their blessings IS a blessing too. [woohoo]

Have a great day!
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Wow this is huge. So much to be thankful for since I found God this year. My year has been truely blessed. Brings a tear to my eye looking back over the year. Well let me start out with the beginning....

I am so thankful God did not forget my promises.
I am so thankful God led me to God Thought.
I am so thankful for my church, bible and charity work.
I am so thankful two daughters found God in there heart.
I am so thankful I have learned what blessing, worship, praise, hope and faith mean.
I am so thankful I know what giving means.
I am so thankful I can still find a smile through any storm.
I am so thankful God has given me creative words to express my love for Him.

I am so THANKFUL for my friends I have found through Jesus Christ.
I am so THANKFUL that God forgives me and loves me.

Thank you Jesus for loving me.
Diane
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
I am so thankful for these tears that flow,
only here on God Thought,
when I am safe among friends,
tears of pain and weariness,
tears for other people's suffering,
tears of joy and praise,
tears over the never failing love of Christ,
but never tears of loneliness
here on God Thought.

[ 11-15-2010, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: 17hens ]
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
So many, many things to be thankful for, but here is an important one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t0mJAUGESQ
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Hi friends,

I'm around, just having a hard couple of days having been around family who have estranged or hurt and offended me.

Today I am dealing with the questions of my sister in FL who was not there, and says I am not the same person, what is wrong with me?(I am very quiet around those people who have hurt me or do not talk to me)

Duh! I could fill a book with that answer, but I will refrain.

Trying to pray about it and compose an appropriate answer.

Feeling very tearful.

I am thankful for all of you, other family and friends, and God.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Dear dekrator,
So sorry I was not here sooner for you. I just got off the phone with my daughter with sadness in her voice. I told her to hang on to God and not dare to let go. To use her time to find something positive to fill her idol thoughts, and to trust in Christ and do not let go of hope and faith. So Can I tell you positive thoughts do help? They do friend. Fill your mind with scripture and song. I am so sorry you have tears.
You are going to have to get your own bucket I filled mine [kiss]

I was reading Meet Me In The Meadow just before I came here this evening, maybe these words will help you some....

November 15, 2010

Trust in the Lord
When is it a good time to put our trust in the Lord? In Psalm 62:8 the Lord gives us the answer, ``Trust in Him at all times.'' Putting our trust in the Lord is not something we jump in and out of according to our difficulties or circumstances. Put your trust in the Lord when you are healthy and when you are ill; when you have a lot and when you have little; when things are going well and when things are going poorly; when you are settled and when you are in the midst of change; when you are getting a pay-check and when you are looking for a job; when you have understanding and when you don't know what to do. Our trust in the Lord must never be seasonal or selective, optional or debatable, relative or arbitrary. Our trust in the Lord must be steadfast, constant, consistent, unwavering. We must completely trust in the One who is completely trustworthy.

I pray that you find a happy place this evening friend.
Diane
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Thanks, Diane.

I am trying.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
I was listening to the radio and there was a christian comedian joking around about Jesus's brother. Does Jesus really have a brother, and if so who is he? where do I find him in the bible?

Hey Daisy? I was thinkin...I know, it scares me to, umm...I was maybe thinking of bible study with the ladies group, and I met a couple of them after church on Sunday...daisy they scaaaare me.
They seem so stiff. So I meet with paster Rob on Monday... he does a bible class one morning and one evening, not sure which day. Watcha think?
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Good Evening God Thought Friends,

Reading your thoughts/posts on God Thought is overwhelming. Who would have ever thought what God would do, how He would use God Thought. I am so humbled and thankful and blessed!

MDW, Was blessed by your "Thankful for..." and your beautiful way of expressing your thoughts. You are a sensitive,compassionate person and we all sense that and benefit.

Glad you shared, "Meet Me in the Meadow". I had not read "Trust in the Lord" yet. Beautiful! God's timing is perfect.

hens, Great insight on the "Thankful for tears...but never tears of loneliness on God Thought". How true. Beautifully communicated and heartfelt.

"Lucky Me" brought tears to my eyes. I live within a mile or so of Tinker Air Force Base. What a privilege in Oklahoma. About that song, how true, "He is the brave and I am the free." Hens, thanks for posting the song. I'm saving it to listen to again and again. I love the words, the truth, our men and women in uniform. God bless them and God bless America.

Dekrator, So sorry that you are "downcast" right now. God gave us tears for these times. May you sense His loving, comforting arms around you. The ones we love the most...seem can hurt us the most...even without trying. Just rest in Him for now. Psalm 3..."He is the lifter of our head."

My prayer for you is Psalm 42 (NIV),

1 As the deer pants for streams of water,
so my soul pants for you, my God.

2 My soul thirsts for God, for the living God.
When can I go and meet with God?

3 My tears have been my food
day and night,
while people say to me all day long,
``Where is your God?''

4 These things I remember
as I pour out my soul:
how I used to go to the house of God
under the protection of the Mighty One
with shouts of joy and praise
among the festive throng.

5 Why, my soul, are you downcast?
Why so disturbed within me?
Put your hope in God,
for I will yet praise him,
my Savior and my God.

6 My soul is downcast within me;
therefore I will remember you
from the land of the Jordan,
the heights of Hermon--from Mount Mizar.

7 Deep calls to deep
in the roar of your waterfalls;
all your waves and breakers
have swept over me.

8 By day the LORD directs his love,
at night his song is with me--
a prayer to the God of my life.

9 I say to God my Rock,
``Why have you forgotten me?
Why must I go about mourning,
oppressed by the enemy?''

10 My bones suffer mortal agony
as my foes taunt me,
saying to me all day long,
``Where is your God?''

11 Why, my soul, are you downcast?
Why so disturbed within me?
Put your hope in God,
for I will yet praise him,
my Savior and my God.

You are in my prayers precious Dekrator.

OK, so I see MDW added one more post. More on that next time. Great questions.

Hugs to all. Sleep in His peaceful rest.
[group hug]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Thank you, daisy.

I appreciate your words and prayers.
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Dekrator, I pray God surprises you today in some special way...that puts a smile on your face.

Blessings friend! [kiss]
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Dektator, this is for you dear friend....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu-rLA4POkI&feature=related
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Thank you, MDW.

I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

I am grateful for my friends.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
I wrote my email reply to my sister who sent me a "sermon" (she has not practiced her faith in many years)

I replied tactfully and truthfully.

I feel a little better having done that.

I think I will listen to some Christian music now.

Thank you friends, for always being here and being caring and faithful.

I truly love you all.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Well, I got a very unexpected and rude response from my sister.

Not really what I expected.

Ugh.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
My dear friends,

I pulled out my paints today, it has been a year or two. So not knowing where to begin, as
I gazed at this still life to be filled with color, my brush initiated with free will strokes against my canvas.
Tented blue skys with an eagle soaring effortlessly beneath the soft puffy clouds, and a glowing yellow sun to shine across the fresh green rolling meadows, filled with snowy white fluffy sheep to graze upon.
An exhausted child after pleasures of his day of travel is resting under a tall oak tree coated with cranberry and orange dyed leaves, you can almost sense the peace within.
Once my painting was completed, I stood back and viewed my window. It was delightfully full of life and color, this picture of mine. When we all get together on God Thought and we touch each others lives, we are a colorful painting on a canvas.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
MDW,

I enjoyed hearing about your painting and how that relates to how we touch each other here.

I didn't know you painted. Have you painted many things? You must be pretty good.

I have an easel and canvas that have been sitting in the closet for 2 years untouched along with paints never opened.

I am not a painter. I enjoy home decorating and wanted to try painting.

I would enjoy seeing your work.

Thanks for the nice thoughts.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Yes dear friend, I enjoy painting. I sold a couple several years back. One day I hope that I can share them with you. Pull out the canvas and paint. You can not make a mistake, every stroke of the brush touching your canvas is art.

Daisy...psalm 3 and psalm 42, I just about wore out those pages in my bible. You know what... they sure have helped me through some rough times.
What about my guestion??


Dekrator... Look up here...Ha!!! made you look UP. Hey girl [Smile] you know I am praying for you. I wish I could turn the sad low lip [Frown] of yours into a high smile. [Big Grin] Want me to stick my tongue out at them?

[ 11-16-2010, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: MDW005 ]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Friends,

Please pray for me, that I can forgive some family members who have offended and insulted me in February but are unwilling to acknowldge any of it and apologize.

I have told them that I can forgive and now I must do it.

I want to forgive as our Lord tells us we must.

It is a little difficult when the offender says those things were never said.

I know that forgiveness is more for me than them, to free my heart, mind and soul.

Please pray for me and help me find the strength.

Thank you friends.
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Good Evening Friends...so where to start???

MDW's questions:

"...They seem so stiff." Well, that probably is 'cause maybe they are. [lol] OK, so....ummm....I were one of them thar "stiff" ladies before. Ar ar ar ar LOL. Then one day, Jesus set me free-er to_be_me_in_Him!

So, bottom line, MDW, the way I see it is like that little poem I shared with you that I wrote last month,

"Since learning to love and accept who God made me,
It's enabled me to love and accept who God made you,
as we journey to the Land of Perfection.
Mercy is amazing too!
When we get Home we'll all be perfect."

So the question REALLY is...what does God want you to do? Be in the "stiff" ladies Bible study? Other Bible study? Other? My famous last words...God will lead you.

I'd like to share something surprising but exciting about how God is leading me. It's something so totally different than what I've been doing for years. I will be involved in a homeless outreach at a shelter once a week. When the adults have their service, I will be involved with the children's service. When I first became a Christian I was involved with children's outreach...strange how God has led me full circle.

So to emphasize...what is God speaking to your heart?

Your other question...Does Jesus have brothers? I believe he did, plus at least one sister. Here is a link you can read for yourself. You can google search to read more. The book of James is believed to be written by one of Jesus' brothers.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-siblings.html

(This above link also shares regarding some churches that do not believe Jesus had siblings.)

Beautiful Word Picture about the painting. WOW! You are a woman of many talents. I draw stick people. [lol]

Have a blessed evening.
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Awwww Dekrator so sorry for all you are going through right now.

I know that hurts...among lots of other emotions. It just ain't fair. True. Life is just not always fair.

You share, "I know that forgiveness is more for me than them, to free my heart, mind and soul.

Please pray for me and help me find the strength."

What you share...I so agree with you. There is nothing that compares to the freedom that our Jesus gives us. Just imagine how bound up and deceived those family members are? That is sad.

I am praying the Lord help you and give you strength...and I know He will. I am also praying for your family that God in His mercy and grace reach out to them to see the truth. May your family be reconciled in Him and His love.

I was just thinking about forgiveness...it is a choice...not a feeling.

God's grace and peace be upon you precious sister in the Lord.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Brrr tis cold outside.. stepped out on my deck unable to sleep tonight and the strong wind has brought in a cold front. Now it is starting to feel like the holidays are just round the corner.

Daisy,
Thanks alot for bringing your poem into the picture to remind me...Not nice, you hear me stiff lady? You are so funny, I can't help but giggle when I read your words...you being stiff, thats a tough one to get a visual on especially with you involved with children in your younger years teaching. It is amazing how children can bring us adults down to there level; Peter Pans.

I am so excited for your new but old adventure God has led you to. I find it to be so heart wrenching to see these family's without a home and stuggling to find a warm bed to rest there weary bodies, then to just start there day over again on the streets finding shelter from the weather until night falls again for them...that is a vicious circle to live. I pray everyday for all of them to not lose hope.

I have been praying hard for God to send me a family of need to share Thanksgiving with. In my past years we have always let friends and neighbors into our home that have had no place to go for the holiday. This year my daughters all will be elsewhere and neighbors are not in need of comfort from us this year. Maybe you can pray with me that a family or two or three find their way to my open warm home for the holiday.

ps... with your permission, may I copy your poem?

[ 11-17-2010, 07:03 AM: Message edited by: MDW005 ]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Good morning friends.

Thank you so much to MDW and daisy for your prayers and kind thoughts.

I don't have alot of emotional energy left right now to express my gratitude, but I do feel it. I am grateful.

I continue to stuggle with how to forgive people who, instead of reaching for the olive branch that was extended, instead become very defensive, critical and sarcastic.

It is very clear to me how my mother, sister and daughter think very poorly of me.

This is something that I never would have guessed would happen in my family.

It is so discouraging and isolating.

I do not know what I would do without my friends here.

You mean so much to me.

Thank you for your support and I thank God.
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
MDW, Yes, you can copy my poem. Oh, what an honor.

Let me say "I WAS a 'stiff' lady before." Ha. I suppose some people may think "That daisy sure is 'lose'"...or whatever the opposite of "stiff" is. Well, I'd like to say the opposite is merciful. [kiss]

Dekrator, I can feel your hurt. The worse hurt is family hurt. It IS hard to let go. I do encourage you to try not to "replay" the scenarios in your mind, again and again, instead try to envision our Almighty God turning this around and using it for good. Romans 8:28!!! It is His specialty. Rest in that truth.

I am praying for you today.

God Thought Friends, may you be encouraged and lifted up today knowing that OUR GOD REIGNS!

"One thing God has spoken,
two things I have heard:
'Power belongs to you, God,
and with you, Lord, is unfailing love';
and, 'You reward everyone
according to what they have done''' (Psalm 62: 11-12).

[bow]
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
Dekrator,

I was watching Joyce Meyer last week and she was talking about forgiveness. I've struggled with that in recent years and got a lot out of her discussion.

I don't remember her words now exactly so I'm going to search and post what I find...

On the link I've posted below, she says much more than just what I copied here, but here's the meat of it...
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http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistries/EverydayAnswers/Articles/art48.htm

How to Forgive

"Would you like to become more successful at forgiving others? There are practical steps that must be taken. One time I asked the Lord why so many people want to forgive but aren't successful doing it. And He said, "Because they aren't obeying what I tell them to do in My Word." As I searched the Word, I found the following instructions:

1. Decide - You will never forgive if you wait until you feel like it. Choose to obey God and steadfastly resist the devil in his attempts to poison you with bitter thoughts. Make a quality decision to forgive, and God will heal your wounded emotions in due time (see Matthew 6:12,14).

2. Depend - You cannot forgive without the power of the Holy Spirit. It's too hard to do on your own. If you are truly willing, God will enable you, but you must humble yourself and cry out to Him for help.

In John 20:22,23 Jesus breathed on the disciples and said, ``Receive the Holy Spirit!'' His next instruction was about forgiving people. Ask God to breathe the Holy Spirit on you so you can forgive those who've hurt you.

3. Obey - The Word tells us several things we're to do concerning forgiving our enemies:

a. Pray for your enemies and those who abuse and misuse you. Pray for their happiness and welfare (see Luke 6:27,28). As you pray, God can give them revelation that will bring them out of deception. They may not even be aware they hurt you, or maybe they're aware but are so self-centered that they don't care. Either way, they need revelation.

b. ...Bless and do not curse them (Romans 12:14). In the Greek to bless means "to speak well of" and to curse means "to speak evil of." You can't walk in forgiveness and be a gossip. You must stop repeating the offense. You can't get over it if you continue to talk about it. Proverbs 17:9 says that he who covers an offense seeks love."

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this is a great one so please read the whole article on the link...

http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistries/EverydayAnswers/Articles/art52.htm

"Luke 6:27,28 NIV tells us what we should do when people hurt us:

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

Can you believe that? We're to pray something like, ``Oh, Lord, I pray that You'd just make them so happy!''

I still don't get that, but I'm willing to do it in obedience and say, ``Lord, I don't know that I really want them to be happy, but I'll pray that in faith anyway, because You're telling me to bless them with Your presence.''

Luke 6:35 NIV goes further. It says:

But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked."

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wow, i just found this great link that finds quotes from famous Christians...

http://christian-quotes.ochristian.com/christian-quotes_ochristian.cgi?find=Christian-quotes-by-Corrie+Ten+Boom-on-Forgiveness

here are some of them...

Forgiveness is an act of the will, and the will can function regardless of the temperature of the heart. - Corrie Ten Boom

Forgiveness does not mean excusing. - C.S. Lewis

Forgiving and being forgiven are two names for the same thing. The important thing is that a discord has been resolved. - C.S. Lewis

To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you. - C.S. Lewis

Many people are reluctant to show mercy because they don't understand the difference between trust and forgiveness. Forgiveness is letting go of the past. Trust has to do with future behavior. - Rick Warren

watch this one to 6:19 minutes. i know not all of it applies, but there are nuggets of gold in places.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EJP4iIkMg0


this is good too. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8682268617887674085#

Dekrator, please know, I'm posting this info to help you AND me win the battle of forgiveness. No lectures or spiritual haughtiness here. Just passing on His love.

[kiss]
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
hens, so glad to see you posting... [woohoo] knew we could count on you. Great stuff.

I looked back through God Thought as I wanted to repost this song (it was from last week of September God thought).

I Will Follow by Chris Tomlin

Where you go, I'll go
Where you stay, I'll stay
When you move, I'll move
I will follow...

All your ways are good
All your ways are sure
I will trust in you alone
Higher than my side
High above my life
I will trust in you alone

Where you go, I'll go
Where you stay, I'll stay
When you move, I'll move
I will follow you
Who you love, I'll love
How you serve I'll serve
If this life I lose, I will follow you
I will follow you

Light unto the world
Light unto my life
I will live for you alone
You're the one I seek
Knowing I will find
All I need in you alone, in you alone

In you there's life everlasting
In you there's freedom for my soul
In you there's joy, unending joy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoU8zBQE6Q4

My prayer for you is that you experience the freedom and joy that the One who loves you with an everlasting love gives...freely!!
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
daisy,

Thank you for your encouragement and prayers.

I have definitely replayed these scenarios over and over in my mind and it can drive a person crazy.

I will pray and meditate today on Romans 8:28.

Thank you for psalm 62:11-12.

You are such an encouragement and blessing.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
17hens,

Thank you so very much for all the encouragement, info and links.

I do appreciate it all.

I will take some time today and listen and read.

I guess I know the answer to this one:

If I must forgive those who hurt me and continue to hurt me, must I then visit with them, welcome them to my home, and talk with them like there is no problem and no hurt?

I guess the answer is yes. That is soooo hard.

I appreciate all the time and effort you put into posting all this info to help me.

You are a faithful friend and a blessing who I truly appreciate.

Thank you again.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
daisy,

Thanks for posting "I will Follow" and the lyrics.

More to listen to and read today.

It is appreciated.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Dekrator... I do not have any words that might help ease your pain. Please know that I am thinking of you and praying for you and your family. I don't like it when you hurt friend. I was looking at my rolls of Charmin ultra soft and trying to come up with an ingenious plan to roll them all together and toss this huge ball of softy from Ga. to Pa., but by the time it reached, you would only have one square left to blow your nose in. Love you friend. [kiss]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Thanks MDW, that's an ingenious plan. [Smile]

It's nice to have friends who care that much.

Love you too dear friend.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
I was looking at this leaflet ( is that the right word?) that I got from church on Sunday. I was so excited to read about the church having a Christmas pageant sign up. No...not me, to shy to do something like that, but I am so thrilled about this because I have never been to a Christmas pageant in my whole life.
This year I so hope I can attend this event.

Daisy... I was looking in this paper and they only have one stiff womens study, and it is in the evening... guess I will find another study class for the morning. Well... you might need to continue to listen to my guestions for a bit. Thank you for the link, that was interesting to read. When I read it in the bible I did not know they were talking about sibblings.

Oh my gosh! I stepped out to get my coffee and I heared Twila Paris on the radio; Prince of Peace...wow she has a beautiful voice. then I walk into my house and on my TV, another powerful song was on; Mark Schultz, Love Has Come.
Wow I sure fill His presence today [bow] Holy Holy Praise to the King of Kings is playing now

ps... daisy why is this strange to you?
"strange how God has led me full circle."

[ 11-17-2010, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: MDW005 ]
 
Posted by sjo (Member # 28057) on :
 
I am grateful that God has allowed little-ole ME to know HIM!!

Just knowing Him, and spending time in His presence is amazing.

I am grateful for life... breathing, eating, feeling, seeing, hearing.. loving.

I am grateful for children and grandchildren

I am grateful for the body of Christ, where I am nurtured and fed. ( especially here).

I am grateful that I am loved and forgiven.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Daisy, what does this mean?

Isaiah 6:2-3
Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

I saw this in a comment box, my dictionary says twain means two things??? Seraphims is not in my dictionary.
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
(my son and husband helped me out with this so i can't take all the research credit tonight [Smile] )

A seraphim has six wings so it means with 2 wings he covered his face, with 2 wings he covered his feet and with two wings he flew.

Seraphim is the highest order of angels. These scriptures tell all about them - what they look like, what they do and say. Really great stuff!

Revelation 4
Ezekiel 1:10


"The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

```Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,'
who was, and is, and is to come.''

``You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.''
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
17hens,

I read through the Joyce Meyer articles, quotes from famous Christans, and watched the Joyce Meyer videos.

There is some very powerful and helpful stuff there.

As I listened to Joyce in the first video, I had an "Ah-ha" moment.

She was speaking about how she apologized to her son and asked his forgiveness. It is a great video for anyone to listen to if you haven't already.

I thought...maybe this is the only thing that will work with my daughter. She obviously has perceived hurt(s).

She says I know what she is mad about, but I don't. She becomes enraged if asked what it is.

So I ask everyone's opinion....

Should I send my daughter a written apology (she will not speak to me)(although I cannot be real specific since I do not know the actual source of her anger) and ask her for her forgiveness for any way that I may have hurt her?

If it sounded too general she would be enraged, I am sure.

She said to me a year ago "you don't treat me like a daughter". That remark came after her husband asked for help because she was acting erratically and going out to bars with girlfriends and staying out very late.

I had just tactfully suggested to her that there was nothing good that could come from that and there are other ways of finding time out with the girls.

I won't go into the countless ways that I feel my daughter was treated very, very well...catered to actually, but obviously she feels some hurt.

The hurt she feels may be from many years ago when I was married to her father who was a very poor role model, father and husband.

Or it may be more recent, not sure. She has untreated lyme and co. and I think this adds to her anger and rage.

It seems like a good thing to try to "overcome evil with good."

I can humble myself and do that if it lifts the burdens from her heart and heals our family.

17hens, once again thank you for posting all of that info. I am very grateful. [kiss]

All of those links and videos are worth saving for future reference.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Hens thanks , this is so fascinating.
Ezekiel says that the likings have four faces. I will read on.

Also in Isaiah 6:6 Then when one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his "hand" a "burning coal" that he had taken with tongs from the "altar".

back to Ezekiel... never mind...hmmm ok who are the likings? The likings have hands and they have four wings...not six? and they appear to look like "burning coal."

This is so... so yeah good stuff. Must keep reading...chat later.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Wow!! this is deep. I so enjoyed reading tonight. I think I understand, just don't ask me to explain what I read.
I spent the first 20 minutes cleaning my computer, because I was so excited about my new readings I spilled my cup of sticky coffee all over the key pad [lol]
No..I have not yet read Revelation 4. First time I peeked in Rev. months ago, it was way over my head.
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
[group hug] [group hug] [group hug] to friend, Dekrator.

So glad you found truth in there. I did too.

---------------------------------

MDW,
"I peeked in Rev. months ago, it was way over my head" - you and me both, chickie!!

My husband loves to read it though - very curious!
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
I wanted to do this on my own, but....not there yet so I share with you with help...

Let every living, breathing creature praise God! Hallelujah! Psalm 150:6 msg

God, thank you for never leaving me! Teach me to praise you so that each day I will grow closer to you and love you more. Amen.
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Good Morning Dekrator,

I appreciate your heart for God and for doing what pleases Him. He will honor you and bless you for that. You bring up some good questions.

When I'm trying to find answers to some of life's difficult questions I like to take extreme examples because that way it is easy to "catch" principles and apply them to less extreme real life circumstances. Keeping that in mind...

You say, "I guess I know the answer to this one:

If I must forgive those who hurt me and continue to hurt me, must I then visit with them, welcome them to my home, and talk with them like there is no problem and no hurt?

I guess the answer is yes. That is soooo hard."

Well, following is the way I think and reason regarding "hurtful life stuff":

My extreme EXAMPLE (NOT A TRUE EXAMPLE IN MY LIFE): A person I know, every time he sees me, balls up his fists and uses me as a punching bag. Sometimes I end up in the hospital. (You can use your imaginations and come up with other extreme examples...ie: rape, child abuse)

OK, so what do I do? Forgive that person and hang out with the guy who is beating me up? Forgive? Yes. Have them arrested? More than likely (how else will they learn from their wrong actions and repent).

Also, if I see the person on the street walking towards me, I will make sure I get myself AWAY FROM THE PHYSICAL DANGER as soon as possible. The person is breaking the law. If need be I get a restraining order. I would not subject myself to that person's presence. And like I said...if I need to follow through with charges I would. Forgiveness is one thing. A person facing the consequences of THEIR OWN wrong actions is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT issue.

Sometimes as Christians I think we throw out our commonsense. We pull out a couple examples of the Lord's mercy and throw away the dozens of verses regarding the Lord's heart for protecting and helping the defenseless. That includes protection and helping our own self. Churches have set up programs to do just that. The Lord values justice.

OK, so what about EMOTIONAL and VERBAL abuse? I rank it right up there with the PHYSICAL abuse. In fact, for me personally some emotional and verbal abuse I received as a child was VERY damaging to my soul. Thank God He ministered to me and "restored my soul"...but that is a whole other story. (And I can thank my mom for removing that person from our home for good!!!! I am so glad!!!)

When a person is ready to hit us in the face with their fist or stab us with a knife, it is a natural response to put our arms up and defend and protect our physical body. Plus we will do what we have to do in the future to not be around that person. No we would not invite them over for the holidays or any other day.

And yet when a person is stabbing us with a "knife of hurt" (verbal abuse for example) we tend to not protect ourselves, or those around us from such a person, and feel like we have to stay in that situation. Not true. Taking a persons "stabs" does not honor God and will not cause that person to want to repent for their wrong doing. It enables them to continue their wrong behavior.

Getting out of the situation, staying out of the situation...may actually be the "straw" that causes that person to see the light.

As an adult person...I choose who I will let into my world.

(I am on an airplane and want to get this sent...hopefully it doesn't disappear into cyberspace. Not proof reading this--yikes.)

To be continued...
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
OK...so I CHOOSE who I will let into my world.

I have very good boundaries (99.9% of the time). Thank God! So if a person is emotionally or verbally abusing me...I can very easily see the truth and am able to talk to the Lord in my mind and just give that person to Him. The lies do not touch me as Jesus is standing in front of me, protecting me, and He takes the lies, etc. Jesus also helps me to respond or not even to respond. It is totally my choice what to say or to say nothing. After they finish their "talk" I often just say, "Thank you for sharing" or whatever comment would be appropriate, "I appreciate what you said, gives me something to think about."

In Proverbs it talks about responding to fools in their folly (their foolish ways and talking) and when we do, we become a fool just like them.

Many verses in Proverbs have helped me in these situations. God's Word is amazing.

I want to emphasize that if a person (who is emotionally or verbally abusive towards me is even around me) there is only one reason. It is because I LET THEM BE AROUND ME. I am totally empowered and it is my choice. I can leave their presence anytime I want. There may be consequences...and I will consider that (weigh the consequences of whatever decision I make)...and then do what I believe is best.

I do my best to keep this verse in mind...this is my responsibility, "If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone" (Romans 12:8).

I make sure that I am not holding something against someone. I ask them to forgive me. If they don't that is their problem, so to speak. I have done my part...I give them to the Lord and pray for their freedom.

Even Our Father chastises those He loves...for a purpose...that the child (especially the tall ones--ie: adults) will repent.

I realize that life is just too short for me not to be free!

I could write a book on this subject. Ha!

Big Hugs to you my friend!! Pray you're doing better today.

Peace!

[ 11-18-2010, 11:17 AM: Message edited by: daisyrlb ]
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Dear God Thought Friends,

As I said, I am in an airplane. WOW, they have wifi.

Hubby and I are flying to California. We'll be sharing at a church this weekend. I'm really excited because most of the speaking engagements in the last few years we did not accept...but now that Gary and I are feeling better we are accepting more. Thank God!!!

Would appreciate your prayers for traveling mercies, health (mental, physical, spiritual). We'll stop at a store to get our hydrogen peroxide and epsom salts for detox baths.

Need to go for now as we're getting ready to land in Phoenix for a change in planes.

I do want to respond to the other posts...they were a joy to read. I so enjoy and am blessed by God Thought.

Have a great day!
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
quick subject change... look what I stumbled upon! Very cool!
http://www.mentalhealthandillness.com/creation_fr.html


PS. Have a great trip, Daisy!
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Hens, that is quite cool, like that share.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
daisy,

Thank you for your thoughtful explanations.

I appreciate it so very much.

Everything you said makes a lot of sense and I can relate to your examples.

I guess this means I should send the apology too..that is what I am gathering from what you said.

I am praying for you and gwb, that you have traveling mercies, have good mental, physical and spiritual health and are able to touch many lives when you share at the Church this weekend.

That is a wonderful thing to do. You must be much more brave than I about public speaking...always wished I was not terrified of it.

Thank you for your time and effort, daisy.

You are a true and faithful friend. [kiss]
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
MDW asks, "ps... daisy why is this strange to you?
'strange how God has led me full circle.'"

Good question and...hmmmm...me just throwing something like that out there...how could anyone really know what I mean. I guess it is not really "strange" considering my background and who I am it makes perfect sense that God would lead in that way.

OK, so when I was growing up we were never homeless. There were times when we didn't have much money, my mom would be awol for a few days or so, and food was scarce. My brother and I would go door to door, with a little red wagon, and collect glass pop bottles. Then we'd take them to the store and get the money. We'd buy bread and peanut butter. To this day I still really like peanut butter (Ar ar ar ar ar - LOL). Now my habit is a little more expensive with almond butter.

I have a heart for children--the short ones and the tall ones. They are precious! Ummmmm...we are precious!

When I first became a believer in Jesus Christ I was involved teaching children. I like it a lot but later I taught adults. Coming full circle is two-fold 1) Reaching out to kids, like daisyrlb was as a child during certain times of her childhood and 2) Going back to the beginnings of my faith and teaching children.

Does that make sense?

Looks like I need to start putting my laptop away.

Everyone have a great day!!!
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
17hens,

Thanks for posting that info about the "Creation of Adam" painted on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

That is amazing!!!
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Daisy... You amaze me with your writes. I ask a guestion and I recieve so much more. I just want to give you a big huge hug.  - your writes touch my life.

That little red wagon with pop bottles, what a flooded memory...the difference though; I got to keep half the change for penny candy, and I lived in well to do family and not go hungry.
I have so much to share with you from all your writes that you shared this morning. I will sit down later a put it all together for you. We will call it, "riches to rags; a complete circle back to riches." [Smile] to be cont.... "circle" and "choices", hmmm...all in one write...might be a book by the time I am done. Living did not happen all in one day... so this write I will put on the back burner for now.

I pray for you and Gary all that you asked dear friend.

[ 11-18-2010, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: MDW005 ]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
This video is cool...Christmas lights set to the music of "Amazing Grace".


http://www.godvine.com/Christmas-Lights-to-the-Music-of-Amazing-Grace-77.html
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Dekrator that was fascinating. The song of choice... I would have prefered a different song.
"Amazing Grace" has been for many years a tough swallow for me. But hey, thanks for sharing.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
daisy,

Your story about you and your brother going door to door to collect pop bottles so you could get money to eat when your mom went awol really touched me.

That is so sad. Something a child should never have to worry about.

It reminds me of all the neglect and abuse I saw in my years as a Maternal-Child visiting nurse.

You are my ultimate picture of the perfect teacher for children's outreach. I am very proud of you.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Dekrator,

I put the words together for Amazing Grace. It is in Cherokee. This was so difficult for me to put together...
My grandmother was full blood Cherokee Indian.
When I was fifteen she passed to the Great Spirit...God. I am 49 years old and never got over her death. She was my wonderful, beautiful protector when I was young. EVERYONE loved this
Christian woman. She taught me so much of how to treat people and the earth. When she passed they played Amazing Grace at her funeral. So I would like to share her song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwUI3EIKZP8&feature=related

u-ne-tla-nv-hi u-we- si
i-ga-gu-yv-he-yi
hna-qu tso-sv
wi-yu-lo-se
i-ga-gu-yv-ho-nv

a-se-no i-yo-ne-tse-i
ta-li-ne-dv tsi-lu-tse-li
u-dv-ne- u-ne-tsv

e-lo-ni-gv da-li-squa-di
ga-lu-tsv-na i-yu
ni-ga-di-da ye-di-go-i
a-ni-e-lo-ni-gv

u-na-da-nv-ti a-ne-hv-i
do-dv-ya-nv-hi-li
tso-sv hna-quo
ni-go-hi-lv
do-hi wa-ne-he-s-di
The drums you will hear are the heartbeat of the people. Everytime I listen to this song it makes me cry. So I do not listen to it.
I hope this version touches you. I missed a line in the second verse, sorry bout that if you were keeping up with the words to the song.

[ 11-18-2010, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: MDW005 ]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
MDW,

Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful Cherokee version of Amazing Grace and the memories of your precious Grandmother.

You are very lucky to have been blessed with such a loving, Christian role model.

The Holy Spirit gave you the strength to put together the words in honor of your grandmother.

And now you are blessing your own grandchildren with the same love that she showed you...WOW!!

Your grandmother would be so very proud of you and the Christian role model you are for them.

Imagine your joy when your loving, beautiful protector greets you with open arms in Heaven, ready to spend eternity with you and God.

[group hug]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Good morning friends,

I'm headed to church and then to run some errands so I just wanted to say hello and I pray that everyone has a hopeful day in our Lord.


Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good; his love endures forever.
1 Chronicles 16:34 (NIV)
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Morning Dekrator,

Thank you for sharing a scripture before you took off for the morning. Have a beautiful day friend.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
guestion, I was looking for "Yoked" in previous God Thought posts because I thought I asked this before, but could not find. So...maybe if I asked, could I have another understanding please?

I thought yoke means bondage to sin and burden, so I must be wrong... can you explain it from this.....

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My "yoke" upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My "yoke" is easy and My burden is light. Matthew 11:28-30
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
MDW,

Try this link and see if it answers your questions about the word yoke.

http://www.gotquestions.org/yoke-easy-burden-light.html
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Good Evening God Thought Friends,

I've read your posts...may not be able to respond until we get back home to Oklahoma.

First a Prayer Request. As I shared before we are in California. Gary and I will be speaking at a church tomorrow and Sunday. Today Gary woke up and he did not feel well. It is amazing how, in spite of the pain he was able to keep moving along today. Must be the Lord and prayers! However, please pray that God touch Gary with His healing hands and that Gary has more of his best days ever while we are here. Pain down, energy, and mind clear. Thank you friends!

Secondly a praise and a thought. Today some ladies from the church took me shopping (the guys took Gary, whew Gary hung in there ALL DAY). Anyway, the church is a small church and I was absolutely shocked at our "budget". Let me say again...we are talking about a small church. They raised funds all year through various fund raisers. We were told not to look at the price tags.

It is hard to put into words my shopping experience. It was so humbling to realize the money being spent on me was money that the church had been raising all year long. It was a blessed day and it was a fun day with the ladies.

Something happened inside me that I can't even explain yet. It has to do with being the recipient of blessings that cost me nothing...but cost others a lot. I know this thought will "evolve" into being about Jesus.

I am too tired now to think about it more.

I am so thankful to be yoked with Jesus...I need rest for my soul (MDW that'll give you something to think about. Dekrator, I have not yet read your link on yoke but look forward to that.)

An old song, short song...You all bless me so much...I see Jesus in you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEy8wE8BQXU&feature=related
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
daisy,

I am definitely praying for Gary and you too.

Lord, please touch Gary with your healing hands and allow him to experience some of his best days ever as he and daisy serve You.

Heavenly Father, please grant Gary pain relief and the energy and clear mind that he needs to do Your work.

Also be with daisy and sustain her also as she and Gary spread Your Word.

I pray Lord that they will have traveling mercies on the way home and will feel rested and fulfilled by their mission.

I pray this in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen


daisy, Wow! That was something amazing that that small church group did for you and Gary.

You must have felt very pampered, and you deserve it!

I enjoyed listening to the song you posted.

May you and Gary enjoy every second of your trip as you bless others with your wisdom, experiences, and God's love.


Hope everyone has a great day!

For great is your love, reaching to the heavens; your faithfulness reaches to the skies.
Psalm 57:10 (NIV)
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
"All of Creation" by Mercy Me...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbMYv7Hqv2s&feature=related


"You Are Everything" by Matthew West...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X43XXpItGk0
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Good morning My God Friends,

Dekrator...I took a look at your yoke link, and will read it again this evening. I am missing something in there. Maybe not enough coffee this morning. Thank you for searching for me. I do appreciate.

Daisy.... I said my prayers for you and Gary last night when I put my head on my pillow.
Then I read this post this morning and I stepped outside to pray some more. Then I cheated and read Dekrators prayer for the two of you. Dekrator has great prayer words.

Well turn around lady and let me see you in your new snazy ware. [lol] I'm sure you and Gary look sharp; with those glowing smiles, warm heart and gentle eyes. Your title for your near future write, sounds exciting and I can hardly wait to hear all about your new experience.
Cost you nothing? hmmm....I for one am a recipient of your blessings, every day you touch my life in so many ways. Thank you, I do pray that you had a night of rest and feel refreshed this morning to last you the whole day long friend.

ps.... I thought living in the flesh always has a price tag of some sort?

[ 11-20-2010, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: MDW005 ]
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
[hi]

Thank you friends for the prayers...and continued prayers. Gary is doing better today than he was yesterday.

Have a day filled with thanksgiving.

Our God reigns and He is faithful!

[group hug]
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
Hey, I know all about yolk... it's yellow and runny! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Hi friends, I gots another guestion for you.

I recieved in the mail today a letter for a pledge to help with the church expenses for the up coming year. My guestion is.... is this different from the plate that is passed every Sunday? If so.... then what is the plate offering for? Is this where the 10% earnings come in? Why do they call it a plate, it's a bowl?

haha Hens very funny [lol]

Ok I really, really do not get this yoke thing...
I must be having lyme brain big time today. I actually got lost in the store today. I thought I was in the isle for five min. and I was there for 30, and I missed the boys bowling this morning because I got lost in the bathroom and my home getting ready, and I recieved a phone call of "where are you?" and I still didn't have my make-up on. So I am going to place this part of Meet me in the Meadow here in God thought so I can find it again [Smile]

Fret buster # 81 ( it is a fret, I cannot figure it out)

``Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30

When you are yoked to Jesus you are not yoked to restlessness, strife, or worry

I will figure this out.

[ 11-20-2010, 05:40 PM: Message edited by: MDW005 ]
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
When 2 oxen are pulling a cart, they are yolked together. The yolk is the heavy, wooden collar that keeps them together.

Try googling "oxen, yolk" and click on images.

I'm going to investigate "yolk". I'll let you know what I come up with, MDW.
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
here's something on the subject by Joyce Meyer...

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20101105/learning-to-trustlet-god-be-in-control/

Life is hard, but God is good.

Have you ever heard that phrase before? Whether you have or not, you probably agreed with it when you read it. It's true that we all have to deal with difficult situations in our life. And when we're stressed out, we get weary and don't accomplish what we need to do.

In Matthew 11:28-29, Jesus says, ``Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me...and you will find rest for your souls'' (NIV).

When Jesus says to ``take my yoke upon you,'' He's saying that whatever you have to deal with in life, if you ask God to help you and pray for His strength, then you and He together can handle anything. We can do ALL things through Christ (see Philippians 4:13).
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
And that's no yolk....

Ha, I kill myself!! [lol] [lol] [lol]

[ 11-20-2010, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: 17hens ]
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Hens, Fog horn penetrated through this brain of mine. The whole page Joyce Meyer wrote makes so much sense to me. Thanks friend. Now I don't feel like a humpty dumpty. You say "I kill myself"...no that would be you "cracked" yourself up [lol]
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
MDW, have you sunk to my level of bad jokes? [lol]
(At least you understand them!)

Good, I need all the company I can get! [group hug]
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
 - Hens, you are full of yourself tonight. Yeah I can understand them bad jokes, no guestions there.
 
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
I think you're right, I must be full of myself tonight - just watching your little green laughing guy pound his fists is cracking me up until tears run down my face!

OOOOOOH, this is a dangerous mood!! [loco]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Good Morning Friends,

Wishing everyone a Lord's Day filled with joy and hope.

Psalm 27:5-6 (NIV)

5 For in the day of trouble
he will keep me safe in his dwelling;
he will hide me in the shelter of his sacred tent
and set me high upon a rock.

6 Then my head will be exalted
above the enemies who surround me;
at his sacred tent I will sacrifice with shouts of joy;
I will sing and make music to the LORD.


daisy,

I am praying that you and Gary are feeling well today.

Hugs to all!
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Good Morning Friends,

Thank you for your prayers...Gary is doing better! Thanksgiving Mission's Service was wonderful with God's blessings. More services today...and Gary is doing well. I am too. Big Smile. Yes, prayers really do make a difference.

This morning Gary will be sharing about prayer.

Have a blessed Lord's Day.

TGIS!!!!!!

The Lord's Prayer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84nd7o1zjjA

PS: I'll be back to read the thread. Gotta go friends.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Daisy, so glad you and Gary are feeling healthy
physically and spiritually this weekend. This is wonderful news. Thanks for popping in and letting us know.
Thank you so much for the beautiful song my soul needed just now. I was unable to attend church this morning because with this lyme brain I am having I did not trust myself to drive. Much better now. I'm starting to feel like me again, but down in the jaw because I missed out on services and my soul feels kind of empty... with no learning, gosple, praising, worshiping. No songs, ho hum..... [Frown]

So it would sure be nice if whoever was able to attend church...well share with me what you learned today. Ok I am going to listen to daisy song again.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
You ok friend Amber? Still down are'nt you.

I can tell by your scriptures and responses on God Thought that you are not happy Amber. Anything I can do? Sorry if you are still sad. If I am wrong...sorry, and I am happy that you are happy. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
MDW,

You are right, dear friend.

Had a rough week. Mother and sister sent me some sarchastic, demeaning and frustrating emails.

My mother was writing like an immature sarchastic 14 year old.

My sister wrote asking about my well being and mental state because I have not said much to any of them lately.

She asked me if I was still here?...if I have any girlfriends? etc...along with a sermon about forgiveness.(she hasn't practiced her faith in many years)

I took a day to think and answered her honestly and tactfully. The response I got back was:

"OK. That is your reality. I'm done. And this wasn't about you, it was about our parents."

My mother said awful things.

I play it over and over in my mind even though I don't want to.

I know I must move on and forgive them for all of this. My human self just wants to dig my heals in deeper because they have really hurt me.

I feel I am disappointing God.

I can't believe all of this family conflict.

I hate conflict.

I will have to go back and read all of the forgiveness material again and listen to the videos again and whatever else I can think of.

I hate it when people think terrible things about me. It makes me feel so low.

You have good intuition, MDW. Thanks for asking.

[group hug]
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Dekrator my dear friend,

I am going to say a few things and I hope that I make sense to, ok? My brain is not all here but I am going to give this my best shot...

Are you allowing your family to destroy your mind and spirit? Are they worth this loss? You are such a wonderful person with so much giving.

I recall you telling me that even though there are days when you do not want to exercise, "just do it." when you are at the gym, sometimes I am sure you can get through a grueling cycle on some machine by thinking about the muscles that machine is helping, right? Well... maybe during this time of stuggle you can make yourself "feel the burn". Exercise your mind and spirit. Stay away from that bicycle which stays stationary, and try a plunge in the pool and swim some laps. (I am talking about the negative and positive battle you have going on with yourself)

Amber, we cannot wish away our problems, and most likely we cannot put on a fake smile and pretend that we enjoy them. What we can do is meet them squarely and soberly by refusing to view them as shots from an unkind world. Make sense to you friend?

Recently I read a book and Ron Mehl wrote these words and they help me.....

"Storms always leave us with a list of things to clean up and fix. They are the times when God restores to us the things we lose. They help us to see and acknowledge the loose shutters, missing shingles, and rotten fence post in our life while turning us back to the only One who can make the necessary repairs."

I do not think God is disappointed in you friend.
Please do not think less of yourself, because you are bigger than this and your family wants to bring you down to there level. You cannot change them but you can change yourself and become stronger and know that God loves you, and we love you. Find those positives you have friend. You mean so much to me Amber and you are special.
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Dekrator, I am sharing with you that which you shared with me on Oct.27th...

Psalm 28:7 (NIV)

The LORD is my strength and my shield;
my heart trusts in him, and I am helped.
My heart leaps for joy
and I will give thanks to him in song.

These songs are the very first christian songs I listened to when I came to God Thought, and I remember how it made me feel inside. May these daisy songs touch you tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA4narr2wyE&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWPABE3gycs

got one more for you before I lay my head on my pillow. good night my friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgob5afanUg&feature=related

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Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
 
Dekrator,

I am so sorry you have to go thru this right now. It must be very hard.

I have experienced that struggle many times (I'm sure we all have) - when what the heart feels and what the mind knows pull in two different directions.

In this case, your heart feels pain and even anger and your mind knows it must forgive and even thinks the Lord might be disappointed.

So, the struggle. What I have found is that when I have such a struggle and am not in a place where I can do what I know I should, I tell God.

"Jesus, I know you want me to forgive but I just can't seem to do it right now. I want to please you but I'm just not able. Can you help me get to the place where I can please you? Can you change my heart?"

He won't let you down. This is exactly what pleases Him - not that we act perfectly but acknowledging our imperfection we ask Him to take our hand and lead us.

It probably won't be overnight, but it'll be when you least expect it. You'll get there. No doubt.


[group hug]
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Good Evening Friends,

Tonight I am feeling overwhelmed as I look back on the past few days and see how wonderful God has been. He has answered your prayers! Each of you are a part of the ministry that took place and God will reward each of you according to what you have done (that is what His word says).

When we get back home, I look forward to catching up on your posts.

I do have a few thoughts on forgiveness.

I think that it is easier to forgive a person when they are sorry for what they have done...when there can be some kind of "closure" (for lack of a better word).

However when a person is not sorry, or totally denies they did anything wrong...that can make it harder for us humans to forgive.

When we are not able to even have a conversation with the person who has wronged us (perhaps because they are dead or because they refuse to see and acknowledge the truth or even talk to us) what can we do?

Something I did, because the person who wronged me was dead, I went to God. I poured out my heart to God...He heard my cry for help. I was able to forgive and receive His peace and move on with living my life for Him.

Dekrator, May God help you to give the hurt and pain to Him and make you more free. It is His specialty.

Someone sent me the following YouTube video yesterday...there are no spoken words. The title is "Forgiveness". It is POWERFUL! I was touched...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv50xrsFNdU

[kiss] [group hug]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
MDW,

I appreciate your caring and thoughtful response.

Yes, I understand what you are saying.

I can relate to the word that you quoted from the book by Ron Mehl.

Thank you for the scripture and the songs. I don't remember hearing 2 of them before...beautiful.

I will try harder to forgive and move on.

This morning I forced myself to send my mother an email telling her that we would not be there for thanksgiving but thanks anyways. I signed it "love,...".

Made myself hit the send button.

You are special to me too, MDW.

Thanks for being a great friend. [kiss]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
17hens,

The advice you give is very good and I thank you.

The prayer that you suggest...

"Jesus, I know you want me to forgive but I just can't seem to do it right now. I want to please you but I'm just not able. Can you help me get to the place where I can please you? Can you change my heart?"...

makes good sense and I will say it often.

I needed you to tell me that....to tell me what to say when I am speechless in my heart.

I so appreciate all the kindness and support.

I will try to have more faith.

Thank you dear friend. [kiss]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
daisy,

Oh, dear friend, you have really hit the nail on the head with your statements...

"I think that it is easier to forgive a person when they are sorry for what they have done...when there can be some kind of "closure" (for lack of a better word).

However when a person is not sorry, or totally denies they did anything wrong...that can make it harder for us humans to forgive."

You just described my mother and sister. Never any kind of understanding, or acknowledgement...just denial, criticism, sarchasm, and more accusations.

I have learned that if something like this happens again (when my mother was here in Feb and said things to me that offended and insulted me), that I should thoughtfully decide what to say and address the problem right away.

I held my tongue back then so I would not say something I would regret. Instead I got alot of resentment.

I will keep trying to give the pain and hurt to Him.

That WAS a very powerful video you posted titled "Forgiveness". I was also touched.

All of your support and understanding is very appreciated and is helping me, even if it is a slow process.

I look forward to hearing about your trip and how God's word touched the people there.

Thank you daisy, you are an invaluable friend. [kiss]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
1 John 1:5-7 (NIV)
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Oh, Oh, Oh, my hand is up my turn. Hi friends, can I tell you about my morning... you know I will.
Where to start...hmmm, yes, I saw Paster Rob this morning and we had a long chat.
We talked about lyme disease and that he does know about the suffering it creates. We talked about my friends here on God Thought and how they saved my life. We also talked about all my promises I said to God. I want to be a doer and I feel like I am not doing enough.

So guess what?... Paster Rob gave me numbers here in the community to volunteer my time to help more people. Annnd...he asked me to help out at church..to help his secretary with filing and budgeting and more.

We also talked about pledge...a promise.
We talked about the bible.. and I will be attending bible classes every Tues. morning with him and 15 others.....cool!

Paster laughed at me when I told him I always have lots of guestions...He told me to Ask them. I hope he does not regret those words. [lol]

Then when we were finished he said "Do you want to pray with me?" I say, "as in, you pray and I listen?" He just laughed at me again and said "yes."
I have learned how to cry... It was a beautiful prayer and I drove home emotional. What a morning!

Will chat more later, a friend just walked in the door.
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
MDW,

That is one awesome morning!!!

Pastor Rob sounds like an excellent pastor.

I am so proud of you for all that you are and all that you will still become!

I smiled when you said..."as in, you pray and I listen?"

I probably would have been thinking the same thing.

You are an awesome doer, MDW!!!

[group hug] [group hug] [group hug]
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Thanks Dekrator, yes, I think pastor Rob heared the fear in my voice..I wanted to say no, but how do you tell a pastor no. I am so glad I did not say no. It was strange at first, not use to that.

You know that rose I was telling you about...my gift from heaven...well that rose is still alive and not one single petal(sp?) has fallen off. Can you believe that! the twig is snapped from the rain we had, but it's still alive.

Thanks for over looking my spelling..Pastor. Never needed to know how to spell christian words till now [Smile] P-a-s-t-o-r I shall not forget.

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Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Awww, you are like the rose, MDW....alive and beautiful inside and out.

No need to worry about spelling. It all sounds the same when you say it. [Smile]
 
Posted by Dekrator48 (Member # 18239) on :
 
Good Morning Friends,

Busy day ahead, so I wanted to say hello and I hope everyone has a wonderful day.


May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Romans 15:13 (NIV)
 
Posted by MDW005 (Member # 22706) on :
 
Good morning,

Dekrator I like Romans 15:13.(I understand it.) [Smile] My little man is home sick today, so we are going to crawl up under the covers and snuggle and watch some movies. You also have a wonderful day friend.
 
Posted by daisyrlb (Member # 15686) on :
 
Good Morning Everyone,

I cannot believe how the time has gone by. It is not Monday of Thanksgiving week but it is Tuesday.

It is cold here and I'd love to be in bed under the nice warm covers. MDW, sorry your little guy is sick.

Dekrator, you are in my prayers. May God give you His continued peace that passes all understanding.

I will be back to read this thread...maybe make some comments. Soon I'll start a new thread.

Blessings!!

[ 11-23-2010, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: daisyrlb ]
 


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