I am not sure if I am breaking any rules by posting a link to this website...but wanted feedback from any members who have visited with him and used his protocol...?
Websites like this make me worry that ABX's are doing more harm to my brain than helping... Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Websites like that can be dangerous for those with serious infections, too, that they do not target. They do not adequately address borrelia. Not even close. The support they offer can be very good but the infection targeting part is severely lacking.
Lyme, itself, can damage the brain, etc. It must be specifically addressed by various methods.
First, it's important to find an expert in lyme disease. The doctors at this clinic are not lyme literate, nor ILADS educated.
Most ILADS LLMD and LL NDs are well aware of the support measures that help the body better tolerate treatment and protect the body as much as possible.
All the "natural" methods in the world will not help with lyme unless they are very, VERY specific and can target, working with the "science" of lyme.
If you are inclined towards "natural" treatment, be aware that even many of the the LL NDs may incorporate antibiotics along with support measure.
And there are some "natural" approaches that are very well researched and thought out. Still, ONLY someone who is ILADS educated and truly "LL" will have the science background to know how to approach all this.
There is also RIFE to consider. -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Be aware that integrative doctors can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first. Some have learned on their own from experts in the field. There are many ways to acquire knowledge and most are eager to share basic details about their training. You want someone with a deep knowledge.
Some of the specialities above may not actually treat lyme yet, for things such as physical adjustments, it is just good that they are also LL, at least to some degree (to know never to suddenly twist the neck or spine).
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches.
BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,
BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,
It's not all about killing the bugs...but you have to kill the bugs first...then deal with the rest.
Posted by twinnick (Member # 43163) on :
When do you know the bugs are dead and the remaining symptoms are from the "rest"?
By rest I am assuming you are talking about cleansing and restoring the immune system...?
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Good question: "When do you know the bugs are dead and the remaining symptoms are from the "rest"?" (end quote)
Unfortunately, that is not how lyme works. It's not like other infections at all. There are various forms, cycles, etc. The coinfections are a huge part of this, too. The different forms of lyme, coinfections, each need their own approach, too.
This is why it's so important to have an ILADS educated LLMD or LL ND.
Support is essential, absolutely, but it is never enough, alone.
The "rest" -- various points of considerations vital to treatment that lax mom refers to -- see the link she posted for that new books. It details 16 vital points for lyme / TBD treatment. -
Posted by lax mom (Member # 38743) on :
twinnick: plus that link has the first chapter for free.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
That clinic is not a good place for Lyme in general.
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