I visited the camp back in the 80's when he was there. It is surrounded by thick tick infested woods. Very suspicious Parkinsons dx.
Just sayin
Gael
Posted by hiker53 (Member # 6046) on :
Gael--how are you doing?
I think Ali got knocked in the head once too often with his boxing career and that caused his Parkinson's. Just my opinion. Not everything is Lyme, but it is always good to be aware.
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
My doc says there's many routes to Parkinson's, one of which is Lyme. And indeed, a couple people around here who were willing to test for it came back positive, so it can be a strong possibility.
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
I agree that definitely the beatings he took could induce the Parkinson symptoms. I was just thinking that maybe he was hit with both possibilities of getting infected and taking too many physical hits. Has anyone ever heard of another boxer with Parkinson symptoms?
Gael
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
hiker,
thanks for asking. I am still in a battle although healing every day. Got rid of a ton of parasites but have some smaller ones that have attached themselves to my chest wall according to a cat scan and lost a lot of weight.
My energy is better than it has been for years. I am hopeful I will win this battle. I pray everyone here is healing and feeling better. How are you doing hiker?
Gael
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Just read an article that Mohammed Ali was exposed to heavy pesticide spray at Deer Lake. His oldest daughter believes that this was a big contributor along with the boxing that caused his Parkinsons. On top of the fact that Deer Lake was infested with ticks. Pesticides, and getting bitten by ticks and punched from boxing could account for his degenerative condition.
RIP Ali.
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Where is Deer Lake?
My father had Parkinson's .. I do feel it was a combination of Lyme and pesticides for him.
He took care of our yards to keep them free of ticks and way back then he used DDT!!! I also used DDT for awhile until you could no longer buy it. EEK!!
(It was Chlordane .. I think that had DDT in it.)
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Hi TuTu,
Deer Lake is in Orwigsburg, Pa. It is twenty minutes from Allentown, Pa (where I grew up) and 30 minutes from Reading, Pa.( Google Mohammed Ali Training camp Deer Lake) and you will see the thick dense woods.
It's a crime of what we are all exposed to living on planet earth. There is no way Ali didn't get bitten when he was there.
What's also so amazing is the fact that Michael J. Fox was dx with Lyme and then given the secondary dx of Parkinsons. Two famouse people who probably had Lyme. No wonder it's called the HIDDEN EPIDEMIC
Sorry your dad was exposed.
Gael
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- I just have to say this, aside from the wonderful person and citizen / friend to others that Ali was . . . I had hoped that someone - in all the voices during his passing - might say that time should long be gone now that anyone has to hit others to succeed in life.
Any activity that requires a person's body &/or brain gets bounced or battered is just not acceptable to a society that values each human being.
Yes, sadly, there have been times from the start of this nation's immigrants where fighting for money was all someone could do to pull themselves out of poverty. But I say it's time we move forward and be a kinder, gentler and more humane society.
We simply cannot have anyone's body / brain be battered. It's not right. And we cannot afford that - even if corporate sports, the media and the betting institutions make huge profits.
Surely, we can come up with sports and intriguing activities that do not destroy the brains of those "used" in such actions. We must. It simply has to stop now. We know what happens to a human brain when it suffers trauma. And we know what that does to human lives. No excuses.
But how is it that this is not a priority? It baffles me that brain battering sports are still a major money maker for the rich while using up young men particularly. Like young men to the lions for entertainment. Are we really that grizzly in our nature?
[And I feel the same about chemical assaults. I am absolutely appalled, time and time again that companies are making big bucks while we swim in a chemical haze.] -
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
Gael, so nice to hear from you! :)
I'm with you (lyme). If you think about how boxers, football players, even people who get in car accidents and are never quite the same afterwards, I can't help but suspect the blows upset lyme in their brains.
Also the pesticides are obviously an issue for lyme patients too. Yeah, IMO parkinsons is undiagnosed lyme (Under Our Skin).
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
Here is a list of people diagnosed with Parkinsons...
[ 06-13-2016, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: Rumigirl ]
Posted by glm1111 (Member # 16556) on :
Hi Keebler,
Couldn't agree more. As Silvia Brown stated, "This is the insane asylum of the universe. A writer friend of mine also made the profound statement saying you have to keep in mind that everyone on this planet is in process of learning and growing. Only about 10% of people on this planet are of a higher mind.