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SentByHim
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-SOCIAL SECURITY:
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.

He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income. Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away,"


.......... you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust" fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US?

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive SSI Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violation of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away! And, the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it!


Thought y'all would find this food for thought.

Sent


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quote:
Originally posted by SentByHim:
-SOCIAL SECURITY:
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.

He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income. Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away,"

--**--Yes, as you point out, if it hadn't a been for FDR (a DEMOCRAT, back when democrats were really democrats!...) we wouldn't even HAVE a social security propgram. And yes, several democrats weakened it substantially-- probably with the thought of ...'appeasing' the 'republicans' and their "burgeoning" corporate dictatorship...
DaveS

.......... you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust" fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
--**--that's neither here nor there; they'd have increased the tax more, if they hadn't have eliminated that deduction (that is, it was a , youknow, a,... um, a ...'deduction'...)

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
(--**--As in the previous case pointed out, ttas on these annuities would tend to keep general taxes a little lower)
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US?

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive SSI Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!
***--SSI is not social security, I don't believe. I'm not terribly knowledgeable on this stuff, but check your facts, please.

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violation of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away! And, the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it!
---***--and they're probably right to believe it, based on what I've seen happen.


Thought y'all would find this food for thought. (-[-tastier than you thought, no doubt, but with a few bad spots, to be sure.)

Sent



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Yep, it's definitely food for thought! Thanks for posting this Sent.
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SSI = Social Security Insurance

nice try at a spin there HappyDave but *buzz* not good enough.

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Everybodies still waiting for a chicken in every pot.
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