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May 19, 2005
New York Times

Generals Offer Sober Outlook on Iraqi War
By JOHN F. BURNS and ERIC SCHMITT


BAGHDAD, Iraq, May 18 - American military commanders in Baghdad and Washington gave a sobering new assessment on Wednesday of the war in Iraq, adding to the mood of anxiety that prompted Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to come to Baghdad last weekend to consult with the new government.

In interviews and briefings this week, some of the generals pulled back from recent suggestions, some by the same officers, that positive trends in Iraq could allow a major drawdown in the 138,000 American troops late this year or early in 2006.
One officer suggested Wednesday that American military involvement could last "many years."

Gen. John P. Abizaid, the top American officer in the Middle East, said in a briefing in Washington that one problem was the disappointing progress in developing Iraqi police units cohesive enough to mount an effective challenge to insurgents and allow American forces to begin stepping back from the fighting. General Abizaid, who speaks with President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld regularly, was in Washington this week for a meeting of regional commanders.

In Baghdad, a senior officer said Wednesday in a background briefing that the 21 car bombings in Baghdad so far this month almost matched the total of 25 in all of last year....


Only weeks ago, in the aftermath of the elections, American generals offered a more upbeat view, one that was tied to a surge of Iraqi confidence that one commander in Baghdad now describes as euphoria. But this week, five high-ranking officers, speaking separately at the Pentagon and in Baghdad, and through an e-mail exchange from Baghdad with a reporter in Washington, ranged with unusual candor and detail over problems confronting the war effort...

Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/19/international/middleeast/19iraq.html


John F. Burns reported from Baghdad for this article and Eric Schmitt from Washington. Richard A. Oppel Jr. contributed reporting from Baghdad.


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Posted by Loribelle (Member # 6293) on :
 
ahhhh. yeh well i think anyone who sees the nightly news knows there has been a lot of 'activity' over there lately.
 
Posted by LabRat (Member # 78) on :
 
up

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Posted by LabRat (Member # 78) on :
 
Is the sky really falling?

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Posted by danq (Member # 2126) on :
 
"Is the sky really falling?"

No, that stuff coming down atcha is just from the sh** hitting the fan. Don't know whether it's the stuff or the fan that was supplied by our tax dollars - probably both...

Dan
 


Posted by LabRat (Member # 78) on :
 
The economy's good, tax Revenues are better than forcast, 50,000,000 people stand to have a better life, the insurgency is in quagmire and Howard Dean is a known democrat, it doesn't get any better!

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Posted by Mo (Member # 2863) on :
 
What planet do you live on?

Mo
 


Posted by LabRat (Member # 78) on :
 

The same one you do. News from different places though. I never seem to be privy to ``secret'', memos the left seems to always be finding. Then there is the ``leaks'', the left is always showing up with. The glass is always empty with the ``bad news'', left! A lump of coal for Christmas etc.

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Posted by Mo (Member # 2863) on :
 
You're a goof, Rattie..sometimes you crack me up. Almost lovable in a kermodgeon-ish sort of way.

The memo confirming pre-meditated War is no secret!

There's no need for 'leftist leaks' ..
unfortunaltely it's all out there plain as day.

The only way you miss it is if you are looking the other way, or only watching Fox.

What's frightning is throughout history a commom ploy used by 'leaders' like our current administration is to convince supporters that the truth is a conspiracy.

Mo

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Posted by LabRat (Member # 78) on :
 

And...what would you do if you were trying to overthrow or discredit a legitimately elected (twice) government? Would you say nice things about them? I think I liked you better when I just thought you were stupid.

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Posted by Mo (Member # 2863) on :
 
Yep. I'm single-handedly trying to overthrow an administration of legitimate, honest boy-scouts.

( even Wya can't contain himself when you use the legit word )

Mo

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