Folks who don't know all the nitty gritty politics of this situation we are in can easily get lost trying to figure out stuff.
I'd like to have a VERY short.. 3-4 words.. slogan we can use to help patients.. especially those not bitten or "involved" with Lyme yet.
Since there are 2 standards of care for Lyme.. we need to make it easy for people to remember to tell their doctors and insurance companies they want to follow the ILADS guidelines.. and NOT the IDSA ones. Since the initials are close.. many get confused... including me on a rare ocassion.
Sooooooooooooo..
Any ideas?
International is best?
International guidelines for Lyme are best?
See.. I need help!
Posted by Silverwolf (Member # 9196) on :
For LD Protocols and Info: "ILADs not Medical Fads" ...? Or Somethin' simular?
Not sure if thats any help?
Silverwolf a wanderin'
Posted by Jill E. (Member # 9121) on :
ILADs has the word Lyme in it, IDSA does not.
Maybe there is a thought there. I'll try to think it over.
Jill
Posted by robi (Member # 5547) on :
International thrives.................. Infectious dies........................
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
ILADS: Let the Real Experts Treat Lyme Patients --
Treatment, not (IDSA's) Wishful Thinking
or
Remembering Act Up's powerful slogan, SILENCE = DEATH
We could do something similar....
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
Lyme Literates NOT Infectious Idiots
(ok, admittedly it needs work)
Posted by northstar (Member # 7911) on :
ILADS: An international standard of care committed to the patient.
ILADS: An international standard of care that supports the patient
An international standard of care for a global problem.
ILADS: an international standard committed to the individual.
(I cant get it down to 2 words, if international is one of them!)
ILADS: global standards for a global problem
ILADS: Where the Individual and International Are One (unite?)(meet?)
ILADS: International Platform for a Global Disease n/
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
Interesting. HA!
Not sure we'd win any awards with this stuff.. but it is a good start!
At least you are thinking about it!!! This is a HARD one for sure! It's got me stumped!
Keep thinking about it if you will and here is what I pictured...
A patient heads to the ducks office with a recent tick bite and needs help.
What "jingle" would stick in their mind so they could immediately tell the duck they want ILADS guidelines... NOT IDSA.
Anyone?
Posted by robi (Member # 5547) on :
Oh yeah ............ TB has got it! It is catchy AND you can dance to it!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by northstar (Member # 7911) on :
duh.....I see, something so they can remember the initials!
Slick grace here. N/
actually, ilads is easier to pronounce. It rolls.
The other one mechanically causes my tonque to get stuck in my teeth and spew droplets of spittle...!
Yee gads, I want ILADS
I'll be sad without ILADS
I'll not be sad with ILADS
(rhyming words with ilads)...must look up
scads, glads pads ballad be glad ilad
anyone can run with these....just ideas
n/
[ 21. January 2007, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: northstar ]
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
Trueblue -- that is great! The best slogan I have seen, I would proudly carry that on a poster...
Posted by wiserforit (Member # 9732) on :
How about "Once Bitten; Twice Shy"
Or "ILADS = patient CARE"
Or "We don't need no stinkin' ELISAs..."
I'm trying, I'm trying... this is hard!
Tori
Posted by groovy2 (Member # 6304) on :
Ht All
-- Just One Bite and You Are Me ---
--- Jay ---
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
I'd Like A Doxy Script
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
quote:Originally posted by robi: Oh yeah ............ It is catchy AND you can dance to it!!!!!!!!!!!
(especially since I got the idea from yours)
Posted by humanbeing (Member # 8572) on :
Demand Care, Demand ILADS Guidelines
Don't Undertreat- Request ILADS Guidelines
Posted by Jill E. (Member # 9121) on :
Hi Cave,
You bring up very valid points.
Most people think Lyme is not in their area. Even my neighbors, who know I was bitten one mile from my house, won't take any precautions.
Even one neighbor, who is from Connecticut, thinks Lyme is just a bout of arthritis.
Most people don't know it's systemic, progresses from one stage to another like cancer, and can cause disability and death - basically, it's not taken seriously.
I hate to use scare tactics, but the reality is, we are doing two things: increasing awareness of Lyme/educating people about the seriousness of it, and then have them seeking an ILADS practitioner.
Hmmm, that hardly fits on a bumper sticker.
I wonder if there's a way to combine the ILADS thought with a Lyme seriousness/awareness thought, like "Get an ILADS doctor. Lyme is a ticking time bomb."
Well, there, that will give me worse nightmares than usual - I think I scared myself.
Let's go back to something we can dance to - I love Trueblue's slogan.
Maybe there's a "get believed angle" like "Get believed. Get treated. Get an ILADS doctor for Lyme Disease."
OK, doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, either.
Jill
Posted by Katcon (Member # 9812) on :
I'd Like A Doctor not an idiot Soon
Sorry very tired and cranky. It's not too obvious is it?
Posted by Katcon (Member # 9812) on :
Get serious about Lyme Disease look for ILADS.
Entrust your health to professionals. ILADS
I'd Like A Doctor Seriously
It's the best I can do with the impaired brain I have.
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
Well now..
You're catching my drift.. good!
Getting some fun and catchy ideas too!!!
Then along came Cave to spoil it all.
Ok dear Cave..
Let's say we start REALLY pushing our cause to the folks who don't have a clue what is going on. Then some day when they actually finally have that big moment.. and find a tick...
Instead of saying ouuuuu eeeeee and running to the CDC website.. they will think of that little "jingle" we've been plastering all over the place... and get treated.
THAT is what I am trying to do. I know.. my brain only works in bits and pieces.. but I am trying to get on paper what I need!
I noticed, for example, Northstar had something short..
"Yee gads, I want ILADS"
I'm laughing. Not sure ILADS would like to see that slogan on bulletin boards or bumper stickers .. or hear it sung on tv commercials.. but we are getting there.
I think a couple of good ones promoted would be nice. One for if you first are bitten.. then another for promoting the right guidelines.
I've been using.. as the closing to letters.. as appropriate..
"Have a safe summer and don't forget- do a tick check."
Not the most catchy.. but a bit different.
I think all the ideas so far are interesting and can be developed into maybe something useable?
Keep it up... at least I am laughing!!
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
I still like "IDSA's 'Cookbook' Lyme Treatment Guidelines Could Really Cook Your Goose"
or " 'Cookbook' Medicine Could Cook Your Goose"
Maybe people are not familiar with the expression about "cooking one's goose" in all parts of the country?
[ 21. January 2007, 11:54 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by Beverly (Member # 1271) on :
I love all the suggestions above!!! You guys are rockin"
The only thing I can think of is... I'm glad I have Ilads! or Choose Ilads and be glad!!
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
Enjoy nature but be aware ticks can hide anywhere.
So play it safe and cover-up and check for ticks so you don't get sick
sorry this ended up to be too long- maybe someone with better gray matter could trim it down...
The ending I really wanted to say" ...
"So play it safe and cover up so you won't have to see a duck"
but don't think everyone knows the other meaning to the word duck Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
Sorry My lyme brain just kicked in- KISS
Lyme Disease ILADS saves lives..IDSA takes lives
Posted by LisaS (Member # 10581) on :
After my name...
Posted by Mo (Member # 2863) on :
it's hard finding something to rhyme with ILADS that works. besides "eee-gads!!" or "gonads"
i'll keep thinking.
in the meantime: i assume from what i've read that this should not be an IDSA bashing slogan, but more an ILADS (Lyme literate) promoting slogan.
"Diagnose and treat Lyme to efficacy: look to ILADS."
"ILADS: efficatious diagnosis and treatment of Lyme disease."
i may well have to think longer.
mo
Posted by 5dana8 (Member # 7935) on :
I like mo's very much. Here's some more of my brain misfires:
"Beaware lyme disease is everywhere"
"check yourself for ticks-lyme disease can make you sick"
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
I Love All lyme literate Doctors who SAVE CHRONIC LYME LIVES!
I LIKE ALTERNATIVE DOCTOR SITUATIONS
long-term antibiotics give your life back, short-term antibiotics are deadly!
yep, one very hard assignment
[ 22. January 2007, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: bettyg ]
Posted by northstar (Member # 7911) on :
More rhymes to work with:
chime
prime climb rhyme slime dime mime
sublime
daytime nighttime anytime
please disease appease
ilads ballads clads
Now, how to use them............
Daytime, nighttime, anytime: check for ticks that may carry lyme.
Daytime, nighttime, Anytime is prime time To check for ticks that may carry lyme.
Be aware please, Of ticks that carry disease.
(I feel like a Burma Shave sign)
Northstar
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Hm...Lyme ads say ILADS
playing with the idea of an ad for them...
Posted by zing (Member # 7124) on :
how about:
Treatment for lyme? Use ILADS guidelines every time!!
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
If Lyme sidelines, use ILADS guidelines
Posted by 3greatkids (Member # 3838) on :
TICK BITES DEADLY and DANGEROUS
GET THE FACTS!!!!!!Save A LIFE!!!!!
GO TO www.ilads.org Posted by robi (Member # 5547) on :
How about:
JUST ASK TINCUP!
ok ok don't smack me ......... i can run faster than you ....... on a good day.
Well, it meets the 3 word max, anyway.
hugs, robi
Posted by Areneli (Member # 6740) on :
ILADS cures Lyme disease
Posted by robi (Member # 5547) on :
Ok, on a serious note,there is a saying in the Disability Rights Community: "Nothing about us without us!"
It is succint and to the point. We need something like that. Just throwing this in as part of the brain storming. My brain is currently on vacation. I'll get Minocaut to check this out. She is great with words.
robi
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tincup: Instead of saying ouuuuu eeeeee and running to the CDC website.. they will think of that little "jingle" we've been plastering all over the place... and get treated.
Which raises the question: Why don't we have television ads about Lyme disease? Are our associations that strapped for money? [I think I know the answer to that one!]...but asking anyway.
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
MS-FMS-CFS-ALS---COULD BE LYME!? See an ILADS physician soon!
That's my try. Kelmo
Posted by northstar (Member # 7911) on :
ILADS, the Answer to Lyme
ILADS, the Path to Lyme Recovery
ILADS, your Guide for Lyme
ILADS, Your Choice for Lyme N/
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Lyme Disease? Use ILADS, please!
Posted by robi (Member # 5547) on :
up
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
interesting suggestions...
Posted by Vermont_Lymie (Member # 9780) on :
IDSA = Ideologically Driven Scientific Assessment
IDSA = Insurance Driven Scientific Analysis
[ 24. January 2007, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: Vermont_Lymie ]
Posted by treepatrol (Member # 4117) on :
ILADS = Lyme Logic
Logic,from Classical Greek λόγος logos (the word), is the study of patterns found in reasoning.
The task of the logician is to set down rules for distinguishing between valid and fallacious inference, between rational and flawed arguments.
Traditionally, logic is studied as a branch of philosophy, one part of the classical trivium, which consisted of grammar, logic, and rhetoric. Since the mid-nineteenth century logic has also been commonly studied in mathematics and law.
More recently logic has been applied to computer science. The parts that make up a computer chip are often called 'logic gates'.
As a formal science, logic investigates and classifies the structure of statements and arguments, both through the study of formal systems of inference and through the study of arguments in natural language.
The scope of logic is therefore large, ranging from core topics such as the study of fallacies and paradoxes, to specialized analyses of reasoning using probability and to arguments involving causality. Logic is also commonly used today in argumentation theory.
ISDA = Informal Fallacy
In Philosophical logic, an informal fallacy is a pattern of reasoning which is false due to the falsity of one or more of its premises.
It is in constrast to a logical or formal fallacy, which is false due to a fundamental flaw in its argument structure.
Thus I give you the difference between ILADS and ISDA. Truth and lies.
Posted by micul (Member # 6314) on :
Got Sick? Think Lyme - Get ILADS Dr Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
I really like Tree's response a lot! (Logic always wins in my book.)
Although, Robin's slogan has the catchy rhyming thing going for it. Like Robi says it's got a good beat and you can dance to it. Posted by Cassie (Member # 2106) on :
Our Ontario support group gave out bumper stickers
LYME DISEASE A-TICK-ING BOMB
it has a picture of a tick with a bomb beside it.
Take care Cassie
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
Whoa...Cassie and Trueblue...I like yours!
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
i like tureblue's :
"Lyme Literates NOT Infectious Idiots"
or something like the saying that someone here signs off with:
"If camp A was right there wouldn't be a Camp B"
ie:
Lyme has two standards of care: A (IDSA) and B (ILADS). If A worked we wouldn't need B.
uh oh. i'm on a roll. this is for MO-our "Protest Cheerleader"
MO-"Why do we need Camp B (or say ILADS) ?????"
all answer-"Cuz Camp A (the IDSA plan) FAILS"
Posted by sizzled (Member # 1357) on :
I will ALWAYS remember and like the one a dear friend sent me a looooong time ago...
"It's LYME Time You Knew!" Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
i like cassie's idea!
LYME DISEASE A-TICK-ING BOMB
Posted by kelmo (Member # 8797) on :
We'll never know what delivered the disease to my daughter. No tick bites that we know of.
So, I don't know if we should narrow it to ticks. That would eliminate many other vectors.
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Persistent Lyme Disease: Another 'Inconvenient Truth'
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
I.njurious D.issembling S.tone-walling A.lliance
[ 24. January 2007, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Withdraw I.(calculably) D.(amaging) S.(imply) A.(bominable) Lyme Guidelines Now!
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Choose I.L.(yme-literate)A.D.S Guidelines Not I.D.S.(imply)A.(wful)Guidelines
[ 26. January 2007, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by Spotted pony (Member # 4963) on :
ILADS leads!
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
ILADS Leads With Lyme/co Needs!
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
lol fightfire, your adjectives are practically begging for a song. I'm going to try Doe A Deer here, and then, yes, I will transfer it to the CD site where it belongs...
I, oh dear, Injurious here D, Dissembling, Damaging Docs S, they're Simply Stonewalling A, it's Awful and A bomb
I-DSA Guidelines -- NOT! 'cause no Lyme/co's can be caught Only ILADS should be taught -- That will bring us back from woe, oh oh oh.
[ 24. January 2007, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: Robin123 ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Cool, Robin!
Just happen to have my dictionary handy. Here are some more for you to play with:
Please note: I have not had time to consider all the permutations that might result using these words. I ask that no obscenity or profanity be used in conjunction with the strings of words I've assembled nor any names of particular persons.
[ 31. January 2007, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Oh dear, fightfire --
I Do See Alotofpossiblepermutationshere!
I Dare Some AddingAdjectiveAction...
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
BEEN TICK-BIT?
What % of ppl w/Lyme don't recall bite? What % of infective bites don't result in "bulls-eye"?
If you can't answer these two questions, you may need ILADS.
ILADS BITES BACK!! (IDSA JUST BENDS YOU OVER)
ILADS - takes the bite out of Lyme and offers hope to those infected with tick-borne diseases.
IDSA does not.
Sorry 'bout that, couldn't resist.
TICK-BIT? BITE BACK with ILADS! Don't roll over for IDSA!
Posted by lymedesign (Member # 8791) on :
ILADS...The Truth about Lyme Disease
Treat Me With The TRUTH!!
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
Two Physician approaches to treatment of Lyme Afflicted Patients:
IDSA = I'll Deny Symptoms Attributable
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
If IDSA flies - PEOPLE DIE!!
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
Got TICKS? Get ILADS!
IDSA turns it's back on patients who have diffuculty responding to brief treatments.
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Enough ABX for Lyme in Time Saves 9 Different Meds On Down the Line!
(Say, could that be a problem in some quarters?!)
[ 28. January 2007, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
12-28 days just might not do, Do you want IDSA treating you? Go-o-o-o-o-o ILADS!
Posted by imanurse (Member # 7022) on :
Lyme Disease is NOT a fad...
Thank goodness that we have ILADS.
Posted by Dancer (Member # 11039) on :
I LOVE ILADS
iLOVE iLADS
(the next bunch have a heart symbol after the "I" - not sure if it'll post right!)
I ♥ ILADS
I HAVE LYME I ♥ ILADS
I ♥ ILADS 4 LYME
I ♥ ILADS LYME DOCS
I ♥ ILADS DOCS
I ♥ ILADS LYME GUIDELINES
I ♥ ILADS GUIDELINES
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Get Real, I.D.S.A.! The Lyme Cat is Out of the Bag!
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Own up. Move on, IDSA Guidelines for Lyme Committee.
Posted by AliG (Member # 9734) on :
STOP PROPAGATION OF LYME MUTATION!(insert ugly tick here) Demand ILADS Guidelines for Tick-Borne Diseases! Remember ILADS = I'd Like ALL Disease Stopped!
(Fear is often the greatest motivator)
Posted by minoucat (Member # 5175) on :
Lyme Disease: What part of misery, job loss, and medical debt don't you understand?
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
ILADS: Intelligent Lyme-Aware Doctors' Site
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
The IDSA Lyme Committee is too tangled-up in other ventures to sort things out for patients.
[ 29. January 2007, 01:32 AM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Auditions for IDSA Lyme Committee......Next!!!
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
IDSA Lyme Guidelines Back-pedalling Us Off the Cliff!
(I think this is a paraphrase of something Pat Smith said at the Protest against the Guidelines in Nov.)
[ 31. January 2007, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
IDSA Horror Show Coming Soon to a Highway Near You: Neuro-Lyme Patients Without Their Meds!
[ 29. January 2007, 01:31 AM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
IDSA Lyme Committee:
Too Busy to Do Its Homework? Too Arrogant to Do Its Homework? Too Invested to Do Its Homework?
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
So many great slogans here! Thanks everyone for your entry.
[ 29. January 2007, 01:30 AM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Tincup, Sorry my entries are usually longer than you specified. I hope someone else can perhaps take the ideas and find a more compact way of expressing them.
[ 29. January 2007, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Idsa dangerous!
[ 29. January 2007, 01:33 AM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Idsa up to you and me to fight IDSA Guidelines for Lyme.
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
IDSA: Stop Making Patients Sick and Sicker!
[ 28. January 2007, 11:53 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by troutscout (Member # 3121) on :
IDSA: Hiding The TRUTH About Lyme.
Trout Posted by sizzled (Member # 1357) on :
Whoa! You guys are on a roll!!! Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Nice to see you here after an absence, Trout. Hope you and your wife are ok. We need your Tigerish spirit here these days!
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Got Lyme Guidelines? www.ilads.org Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Expose IDSA Lyme Guidelines To More Light and Air
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
IDSA Lyme Guidelines Need Disinfecting!
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
quote:Originally posted by FightFireWithWater: Got Lyme Guidelines? www.ilads.org
I like it, short and simple.
I like bunches of yours and everyone else suggestions but this seems easy enough to remember and short enough for a bumper sticker, bookmark, can make it really big on a poster and have it be seen from very far away...
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Thanks for encouraging our efforts, True and Siz.
I am wondering if the "Got Lyme Guidelines? www.ilads.org " doesn't still leave the public at risk of confusing the good guidelines with the bad ones sometime down the line. People will likely remember "guidelines" but may be confused should the other guys' guidelines appear in their sight line.
[ 31. January 2007, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
I.L.A.D.'s Lyme Guidelines Hit the Bull's Eye I.D.S.A.'s Guidelines Miss the Target
Posted by Nancy-FL (Member # 7986) on :
I went to bed and couldn't sleep, as I kept thinking about this, so here is my after-hours contribution. (Hope this looks as good to me in the morning as it does now.)
I.L.A.D.S. Insist On Literate And Dedicated Specialists
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
Good one Nancy! (Maybe I need to try sleep typing. ) How about yours and FFWW's together...
Got Lyme? Insist on Literate And Dedicated Specialists
Posted by Nancy-FL (Member # 7986) on :
Good job, True. I like that a lot, and it is morning!
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Yes, I like the word "insist" since it implies that there is a controversy and finding the right Dr. won't just easily happen.
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
*nods* You're right, insist is a really good word!
(heh, that Nancy... she can do this stuff in her sleep.) Posted by gabby (Member # 10647) on :
"When it comes to lyme, I.D.S.A - I * Don't * Seek * Answers, I just lie."
or
Lose The lyme_lies seek The I_LADS
or
I.D.S.A - Illiterate Ducks Suck *** ! Learn the truth about lyme.
or
ILADS - *Is *Lyme *A *Death *Sentance?.. Find out at ILADS.com
Posted by gabby (Member # 10647) on :
and by the way they spread their ignorance, they really are infectiousLY diseasED. >I think I got it now, HA!<
Posted by bettyg (Member # 6147) on :
quote:Originally posted by trueblue:
Good one Nancy! How about yours and FFWW's together... ************************************
Got Lyme? Insist on Literate And Dedicated Specialists [/QB]
I LOVE THIS RESULT! good job ladies! this is the most effective one i've read!! it's got my vote!
it'd be nice to start narrowing these down to a dozen and vote on! what do you think? Posted by Nancy-FL (Member # 7986) on :
Betty,
You asked what we thought. Well, I think the one just above that Trueblue came up with by combining my idea and FFWW's idea is great!
However, it is well suited for a bumper sticker, poster, rally sign, or wherever it would appear in print, but it's not really a "battle cry".
We still need a catchy phrase to "chant" when the need arises.
Short and not-so-sweet is probably what we need, so do some thinking, folks. Can't wait to see what you all will come up with!
Nancy
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
Nancy... Have you tried sleep chanting? That might be our best bet. Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Nancy, Good point. I agree that the posts on this thread contribute to several goals as the title of the thread would inspire. Tincup did specifically ask for a catchy slogan that would reinforce ILADS' name but her title implies that we also need things for rallies, sound-bites for the press, as well as cards to pass out to the public, etc.
One thing that occured to me belately is that anything with an "I" (for example the "insist" that we were thinking would be good") is actually problematic because it is in the other guy's acronym too and could lead to the very confusion that we are hoping to avoid.
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Don't Be a Dog in the Manger, IDSA! If you don't want to help Chronic Lyme patients, then leave those who do alone.
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
I(nconviently) D(iseased) N(eedn't) A(pply)
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
I(nconveniently) D(iseased) S(ummarily) A(bandoned)
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Why should those whose disinformation (the "hard to get, easy to treat" lie) that let to so many of us having chronic Lyme in the first place be the ones deciding how we can now be treated?
Posted by Nancy-FL (Member # 7986) on :
Here's another one for print. Still working towards a "chant".
I. D. S. A.
Intentionally Denying Serious Ailments
This is certainly not complete within itself, but I figured if I posted it, that others might be able to move it to the next stage. If we all post things as we think of them, then we can all work together to formulate something really good.
(I'll be back about 2 a.m. with the really good stuff. )
Posted by Nancy-FL (Member # 7986) on :
On a more positive note, maybe we should all be preparing phrases that can be used on signs that will be displayed outside Mr. Blumenthal's office when the investigation culminates victorious.
Guess what I am trying to say is - write down everything that comes to mind, post some here, so that when any occasion arises we'll be prepared!
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
I.L.A.D.S. I Like A Doctor's Support
I.D.S.A Ignoring Diseases So Astutely
I'm pretty sure I'm repeating myself and am getting no closer.
I.D.S.A... please make them go away; I.L.A.D.S... we need them to be our very best
I totally suck at this.
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Hey, True. We're brain-storming now- just keep the ideas flowing. Never mind about judging. We never know, something one person says triggers the next person's thinking and soon we have what we need.
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
IDSA Lyme Treatment Guidelines: What's Not to Dislike?
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
News Bulletin (dark humor dept):
A group of Lyme patients has announced that they are considering a temporary "species change" operation in order to be eligible for long-term antibiotic treatment. They say that livestock- dairy cows, chickens, and pigs are routinely kept for years on chronic antibiotics while the IDSA guidelines for Lyme treatment puts ABX treatment for serious human illnesses in jeopardy.
Mindful of the legitimate problem of antibiotic resistance, they say that in the case of the decades-long Lyme treatment controversy, the antibiotic-resistance question is largely a red herring. They believe that the controversy has more to do with covering-up past mistakes and guarding turf.
Tired of the struggle, and feeling that obtaining ABX "informally" is not their style, these patients are seeking a kindly young farming family to look after them until the truth is finally admitted and patients given the treatment they require. The patients, er...animals... would then be changed back into humans.
Currently, a pig is the preferred animal of choice for the species change. Patients note that pigs are very intelligent and very similar genetically to humans. Additionally, if the humans get confused about who the interspecies "pigs" really are, perhaps pigs will be found cute enough to be kept as pets and be spared the trip to the butchers until the business can be sorted out.
[ 04. February 2007, 09:54 PM: Message edited by: FightFireWithWater ]
Posted by trueblue (Member # 7348) on :
oink
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Oink, oink! Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Lyme Disease? www.ilads.org for the good lads (and lassies) with the good guidelines
(the "lads" in ilads could be underlined to reinforce the connection)
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Informed Lyme Patients and Their Drs.
"Take Issue" with IDSA Guidelines "Take Charge" of Their Health with
www.ilads.org Guidelines for Diagnosis and Treatment
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Feeling Like Lyme Disease Roadkill?
Scout out www.ilads.org for Lyme Diagnosis and Treatment Guidelines
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Body Armor for the Lyme Wars:
Lyme Diagnosis and Treatment Guidelines www.ilads.org Posted by snapcrackle (Member # 9977) on :
Great idea. How about:
IT'S YOUR CHOICE:
IDSA = BIOWEAPON$ DEATH DOCTORS
ILADS= BIOHEALING DOCTORS Posted by Walnut (Member # 6585) on :
I want the best care
Not two standards of care
Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :
HOLY COW! Take a bow!
You all have been VERY busy! It is starting to look a lot like Christmas here with all these slogans!
I was thinking how hard this is to do.. so maybe we should just change the name of ILADS to something we can RHYME!!! Do you think they will mind? HA!
If you noticed in the trash article from Forbes.. one of our slogans made it to the article.. Wormser Lies, Patients Die!
OBVIOUSLY they are NOT happy with us... boo hoo hoo.
So keep it up and let's continue to share these great ideas!
I like them all.. well MOST of them.
I noticed Robin's is short, simple, polite, and to the point... and rhymes!
She said..
Lyme Disease? Use ILADS, please!
Hey Fight Fire.. you getting out some hostility? Good work!
Posted by FightFireWithWater (Member # 5781) on :
Thanks, TC. Greeat to have you back! I do admit to being frustrated...very frustrated ...and fed-up with our precious time and energy being squandered by this not-nice game-playing.
Posted by CJ (Member # 169) on :
WOW! Such wonderful ideas! I can't think of any new ones. I like the "tick-ing bomb" and I like the "insist" one.
One thing to remember with a slogan - stress the positive! Don't even mention the negative.
As with political campaigns, all they do when they bash someone is make people remember the name of the person they were bashing.
So my thought is to just concentrate on ILADS and don't even put out the name of...... what was it? I forgot!
Does that make sense?
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Been up with Tincup? -- Grin, yup...
Thx for the heads up...
I see a lot of terrific slogans(yo, tons!)-- use and enjoy!
An oink especiesially to fightfire... Posted by Amanda (Member # 14107) on :
Sometimes I think it might be better to not even mention the IDSA. I know this isn't short, but in honor of Dr. Suess, here it goes....
Lyme disease causes terrible pain and can even drill holes in your brain
I never thought I could get so sick just from the bite of a 1 mm tick
no pain medicine I took, large or small made any difference, none at all!
But then an ILADS doc gave me antibiotices and after 3 years, by jove, we got it!
But then some researchers that never see patients ignored the improvement of thousands of patients
They based their assumptions on 4 flawed studies and even took money from their health insurance buddies!
So that the one thing that helps to rid us of pain, we are now told, "we don't think it works, so just tough it out, suffer in vain"
I thank the stars for the ILADS docs, who treat thousand of patients, around the globe, around the clock!
So to end my tale of woe and want to escape from lyme hell see someone with expereince treating lyme and tick infections, get an ILADS doc, they will get you well!
Posted by momofthree (Member # 19490) on :
Legalize Chronic Lyme find out why at ILADS,org
Posted by thejoje (Member # 19976) on :
LYME DISEASE... coming to a city near you! Get the facts: ILADS.org
Posted by hshbmom (Member # 9478) on :
ILADS for my lads!
Posted by hshbmom (Member # 9478) on :
Lyme: Time for a new paradigm!
It's about time for a new paradigm!
High time for a new paradigm
Science is insistent Lyme's persistent
Science is insistent Lyme's resistent
We're insistent Lyme's persistent
Negligent
(The treatment of) Persistent Lyme is not a crime
New direction(s) for Lyme infection(s)
Those with greed cannot read
Those with greed refuse to read
Coinfections demand new direction
Don't be duped by Lyme's toxic soup
Deception >>> Infection
IDSA's deception leads to chronic infection
Relapse brain lapse
Ignore the facts & you'll relapse
Lyme: Learn the facts, prevent relapse
Inability disability
Posted by hshbmom (Member # 9478) on :
Avoid derision, choose revision
decision division
education altercation violation
speculation
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
May 2010 Lyme Disease Awareness Month Hiphop -
I know you can't hop, and there's a pain in your hip, But we're telling you: stop - from this refrain, take a tip -
What you don't know can cause you woe, 'Cause Lyme and co's, they can take away your go.
We got to educate everyone Or we will all be gradually undone.
It's up to you to learn about Lyme and co's, since your life they can reroute.
Bacterial infections, plus protozoa From ticks, bugs and us - say whoa -
Better change our habits and start to protect So from Lyme and co's we don't all get wrecked.
Learn about the two standards of care So you can get to ILADS to stop Lyme/co flare.
It's up to us to start telling the docs We expect nothing less than the truth, 'cause it rocks.
From "there's no Lyme in" fill in the blank, To Lyme this whole world it will tank
Unless, unless, we all get hip That we must all hop to save our earthship.
Posted by 17hens (Member # 23747) on :
How about...
don't get mad, get ILADS
don't be sad, get ILADS
ILADS - your best bet for better health
ILADS = healing
Demand ILADS, Demand Health
Demand ILADS, Demand Hope
ILADS, I Hope IDSA, You Joke
ILADS = Hope, IDSA = Joke
Hmmmmm, I'm thinkin'...
Posted by onbam (Member # 23758) on :
I remember that some poster hadn "Lyme: forbidden government fruit" in their siganture for a while. That'd be an ok one.
Maybe bumper sticker with "who is [insert coverup architect's name], and what is [he/she] doing to us?!" with a picture of someone in a hospital.
"CDC: Center for De-cephalization" with an image of diseased brain scans and a link to lymecryme.
All the really good ones I'd get banned for posting.
[ 06-28-2010, 01:58 AM: Message edited by: onbam ]
Posted by payne (Member # 26248) on :
"The Tick" cartoon started around same time? alittle lighthearted = youtube/the tick vs_____
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You guys are rockin"![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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IT'S YOUR CHOICE: ![[puke]](graemlins/puke.gif)
IDSA = BIOWEAPON$ DEATH DOCTORS ![[woohoo]](graemlins/woohoo.gif)
ILADS= BIOHEALING DOCTORS ![[bow]](graemlins/bow.gif)
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