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daniella
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http://www.parasiteremedies.com/index.html

This web site is for the Sputnik.

I was wondering if anyone had used it or knows someone who has used it and what the results were? I know I read that someone here on the site has used it but I couldn't find the thread. If infact this works as they say it should be very helpful(if you think parasites are also a problem).

I am trying to think of my whole body health now. After years and years of abx for lyme which can cause low stomach bacteria ect. this could be a possibility.

AND... what about the connection to

www.lymephotos.com

? Couldn't it help resolve that if it was in fact the case. I donno.

I am just getting all excited thinking this might work Maybe it's just wishful thinking. Please let me know what you all think......thanks

daniella

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I thought I'd move this up just to get a few replys.....thanks for your input

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No takers on this one????.....


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IF the Sputnik works like the web page said it would be wonderful. Any other experinces out there??? I mostly took note of the oesteo arthritis info it blurbed on bottom of one page, sorry couldnt remember which. Never heard such info any where else. Always interested in what OA is associated with .
Sounds like something like the salt and C but without the Salt and c, interesting to say the least.
Dont know where to get such a screen tho.

Hope this gets more posts!!! cuz I remain--just don--

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I think GiGi's used it...don't know where the old post is or if it's been deleted. Might try a search using 'sputnik'


I'm not crazy enthusiastic about retrieving the thing and swallowing it again though....


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Charlie and Just Don,

Me neither. If I did it, I would get two.

Then use one in all the orifaces it says that you can ( wow, can't believe I'm talking about this! ).

But it has many uses it says.
Lastly, I would swallow it. Unfortunately because I'd get grossed out I would not retrieve it. Then I would use the second the same way.
daniella

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This is what I responded back in September 2004 when the talk was about Salt & C. I had posted about the Sputnik several years ago. Have no idea where the post went.

Both my husband and I used the Sputnik. Yes, we retrieved it, washed it in alcohol and swallowed it again, where it did its work for another round. The sensations while it is going through the digestive tract are great - you know you are really doing something to the many critters that sort of have taken over while the immune function is low. I can't understand why the disgust toward your own body's products! I guess we were taught from early on that this is "bad and ughhhh" What absolute nonsense.

Most patients of my doctor take the Sputnik somewhere during treatment.

Most patients also do a lot more to handle the parasite invasion, such as cleansings with Arise and Shine, Albendazole, Salt & C, etc, KMT22 instrument (see Klinghardt Matrix Therapy which I posted about recently) covering every possible invasive organism that most Lyme sufferers are holding onto.

As for whether or not the above work, they do. See us - we are well. Both my husband and I.

I have given generously - what I have been posting about over a number of years works.
It's up to you to learn to understand that Lyme Disease only takes hold and ruins your life for years when there are underlying problems. Everyone of us, just by the mere fact that you are living on this earth today and have probably resided here for a number of years, has these underlying problems. We eat the foods available, we breath the air, we drink the water, we are exposed to some 120,000 new chemicals every year; we let these ignorant people put mercury into our mouth; we let them do root canals; we stuff ourselves full of pharma drugs to poison ourselves even more............

Some more than others. Some get deathly ill when exposed to Lyme, others do not, even though they were exposed. That's where the underlying problems come into play. And unless you address them, Lyme hangs on.

So sorry, but that's the way it works, and nobody has yet been able to convince me (or my doctor for that matter) that it is any different. In fact, my doctor finds Lyme in the majority of chronically ill patients (including cancer), no matter what the diagnosis. The patient just was not aware of it.

Inform yourself - don't fight it - there is a lot more to Lyme than borrelia, babesia, etc.

Good luck.

P.S. Here is my September 2004 post:

Since everyone of us brings something different to the table when we get infected by Lyme, the treatment is different for every single one.
We did Salt and C, both my husband and I.
Though we both had had extensive treatment for parasites with drugs and the Sputnik
(look it up if you have never heard of it), our results were not as drastic as some people's I know. But I have seen and heard of some of the results of other patients that we work with and believe it or not, the things come crawling out of some of them.

There is no one single therapy that will cure Lyme; that has been our own experience and that of my doctor. People usually have to go through many different regimens to finally get the body to the plus side. As I have said a thousand times, many people are infected by Lyme and they handle it quite well; while some of us have a number of underlying problems to start with that makes it impossible to cure Lyme without addressing all others, such as metals, chemicals, parasites, viruses, fungi, etc.

For us Salt & C was a therapy that was easy to do and that added to the overall results, to the extent that both my husband and I are very happily well. In fact, I myself was quite well before we discovered the Salt & C. I did it merely to keep my husband company.

By the way, if you don't go quite the 12 gram of Salt & C, do less. For some, the high amounts are difficult to tolerate, and it depends a lot on how "contaminated" a body is. So start slow and move up gradually to where you can handle it and still be able to make it through the day without hitting the ceiling.

I think we can pretty much forget that there is one single remedy in this world of wonders out there that will kill Lyme and Co. Simply because most of us deal with a lot more than just Lyme and Co. I thought that both my husband and I were super healthy before my tickbite. Our treatment to get rid of Lyme taught us otherwise, and I do not think that we are the exception, but that most Lymies need to address all
"invasions" that should not be in the body in the first place.

I just was told of a recent (not officially published) study done by the U.S. Military
forces in Germany that 60% of all Germans carry Borrelia and co-infections. Relatively few suffer massive problems, starting with fatigue to paralysis, but the increase of neurological diseases in the last few years is unimaginable and exponential. More and more children suffer behavioral and developmental disturbances. Adults often suffer from mysterious neuro problems, Parkinsons, loss of memory, etc.

The average citizen 50 plus years ago, before we were bombarded with a zillion of toxins in our environment used to eat an average of 20 grams of salt a day!


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Thanks GiGi, that was most interesting.
Finding enough salt around here would be a challenge!
My LLMD suggested , when I asked him about salt and C, that I use 'loose salt' instead of salt pills which he said will burn a hole in your stomach where loose salt will not concentrate that way. How much salt is equal to a one gram salt pill? And can the body stand to take 12 or so grams a day? My RN daughters about went ballistic when they heard that one. But they advised against their mother getting a gastric bypass too and she is doing well with it so far. (lost 70 # and wants to lose another 70#.) The salt and C regimen sounds pretty doable with the Sputnik thrown in for good measure.
Thanks for the post, most informative.--don--

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if you are worried about parasites i would have a stool test done pronto.
http://gucfm.georgetown.edu/welchjj/netscut/id/parasite.html

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By the way, I forgot to mention here, though I have posted about it on many occasions.

Stool tests are inconclusive for many parasites that are found with other means. I thought I was totally clean according to stool test until I learned better. They are simply part of the picture of a chronic disease once the immune system is turned down. I have met many, many patients - assume I have met just a hundred of them --- all of them had to be treated for parasites, the ones that showed and the ones that did not show in lab tests. That's why a variety of agents are used to reduce their numbers. Just think how much material you can send in for testing!!!

Also, parasites thrive on B-complex vitamins! They get it all before you get maybe a little. Injectables work better.


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Wow....... GiGi

Thanks for the really interesting info! Was this the extent of your treatments or were there more? Can you be specific if you remember that far back. I'd really appreciate it. The salt and C treatment I'm going to start tommorow as well, I think. Did you have atest done for parasites? If yes where? And do your treatments claim to remove all of types? .......... thanx

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Just Don, you do not have to start with the whole 12 gram. Start with a little bit. Some patients also use organic apple cider vinegar in water instead of the C, with the salt, doing it several times during the day.

I made a fully saturated saline out of the Himalajan or Real Salt, and used this by the teaspoons in the vinegar drink. Nothing gets stuck anyplace. I have posted about this numerous times - just do a search here. I use saline for many purposes. You dissolve a pound or so of salt in good water until some of the salt stays at the bottom of the glass container and does not dissolve any further. That's the saline you use. Just add more water to it as you start to use some of the saline; as long as there remains salt at the bottom, it is totally saturated. www.americanbluegreen.com. for info. Use 1/2t, l t, 2 t, 3 t per glass, orwhatever you can tolerate.

Start slow - and work up. If you see something that looks like apple seeds, those are the eggs of a tapeworm! I found that out just recently from a patient-friend.

Do not worry - if you have eaten in a restaurant over the years, you have parasites. Often they are parasites that are common in other countries.

Sushi eaters - beware!!!!!

Take care.


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www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/salt.htm

We have been brain-washed for years! Not only about amalgam, but also about salt.

My motto - Learn all you can and you will be way ahead of the game.

Take care.


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I ordered 3 sputniks 8 months ago. I have them. If someone wants to try it, e-mail me. No charge. I ordered three, because I did not want to reuse them.......even though I'm tough enough to do it.......probably prefer to take a bullet, than reuse it......I got on the Marshall protocol and never tried them. Wy wife looked at them [ looks like a miniture sputnik] and laughed. truth is I would probably need a few beers, before going for it.....I'm well from the MP, so no need to do it. I was thinking of getting my buddies together and playing poker, the loser downs the sputnik. I do think it might work, so if you need it, let me know.
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Semper Fi,

Wow!....Just my luck. I was just going to order two myself for a small fortune plus shipping from ireland. I insist on paying you back the asking price at least(I will mail you). I am dying to try it. Are they big? Are you scared to do it because it is bigger than you thought? This would be great I could do it and report how it was going and what was happening! Just like a reality show.. Please write back asap. I'm very excited now!..........

daniella


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Gigi,

If you have emf sensativities, wouldn't Sputnik make you go overload????!!!!! Does it kill babs and blood parasites. I've done hundreds of parasite cleanses and never noticed worms. yes, I do look. Thanks, Michael

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Hobokinite,

What is EMF? And how do you know if you have it? What are the cleanses that you have done?.......
I imagine the sputnik kills all kinds of kritters including lyme, babs, etc. or at least I am hoping.

daniella


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Don't worry about this rare symptom. EMF is a sensativity to electrical things. Only a few of us here have it on Lymenet.
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ZipZip,

I'm not sure the tests are reliable. I had 1 neg. but was told you need 10 to be sure. It seems lke a very inexact science if you ask me. Thanks for the info.... very interesting........ do you have anything else? send it on if so.....

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I promise I will read the link, but I was just gigglign to myself...

is this something you gotta swallow? And then uh- retreive?

Ok Ok I will read the link

Hobokonite: I dont like to hijack threads, but just to let you know, ALOT of lyme patients suffer with emf sensitivities.

I tend to blow out light bulbs and zap everyone around me constantly


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Gigi,
If you have emf sensativities, wouldn't Sputnik make you go overload????!!!!! Does it kill babs and blood parasites. I've done hundreds of parasite cleanses and never noticed worms. yes, I do look. Thanks, Michael

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Hobokinite,


Hobokinite,

I have no knowledge concerning using the sputnik while being in a place that
has a EMF problems. My EMF problems had been solved when we got to taking the sputnik.

One possible concern would be that:
as with any treatment (vitamins, food, whatever really...) if you are
administrating that treatment while living in a place or exposed to EMF that blocks your regulation, which means that your autonomic nervous system is literally stuck unable to respond properly, you may not get the full benefit of the treatment. If it is stuck, healing cannot take place in the way we expect it to. The Sputnik is pretty powerful, so it may still do its job regardless.

But if you want to make sure that you get the most out of your treatments and whatever you take, you should solve the problem of EMF. Since many (most) patients are heavy metal toxic, the EMF is often a problem. Most of these people have electrogalvanism in their mouth by having a variety of metals in the mouth. The different metals and saliva sending signals back and forth.
If you want to get well, it's something to pay attention to.

Neither my husband nor myself made any great improvement until the issue of metals was resolved. No patient at my doctor's does. That's why this is always priority number one.

If you live near microwave towers, pay attention. Pull the fuses at night, do not sleep near plugged in lamps and wiring, Electric clock, or even worse, electric blankets.

Viruses do real well in this type of surrounding - they thrive, and the patient gets more and more sick and can't figure out why.

Take care.



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GiGi,

How would someone know if they had this? They would know wouldn't they?........I agree about the current draining our energy. When I sleep with the computer on I am even more tierd in the morning. Tonight I'm going to start unplugging things and see if it feels different.........

daniella


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Semper Fi,
I also would be interested in your offer at an agreed amount of course. IF you have one left to give.

I do have electrical sensitivity. I start going into gastric duress when hands are in direct contact with elec. motor. I thought I was going bonkers when I discovered that weird one. Asked tons of ducks about it and got this real weird stare. And no I dont need a mental health review thank you, duck.

Also when driving a car and holding the steering wheel I get same thing alto milder. Found I HAD to chew sunflower seeds or gum to help. A bottle of pepcid (or something like that)made me sicker than already was.

So tell me again because I am REAL slow. The Sputnik is 'safe' if you have the elec. sensitivity??? RIGHT??? And it helps with that??? How perfect if true???

Semper Fi, feel free to email me with any info and way to help you out. At least your favorite charity, if nothing else.
Thanks for the super thread!!! cuz I still be --just don--


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Gigi,
Had the metal taken out of mouth (and mercury) years ago. Didn't help, Mike

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Danieele, I will send two to you, FREE, on Friday. Just don, send me your address and I will send you the third one. I do not think I need it now, so no sense in them going to waste. Good luck and God Bless.
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Hobokinite, I don't doubt it for a minute that taking the metal out of your mouth didn't help, unless you also took it out of the rest of the body (brain, joints, tissues intra and extracellularly) by going on a supervised detox program that could last a year or 3-4 years, depending. But whatever you remove from the load, benefits you as you go along. It's got to be done right, with someone that knows how. It is not a do-it yourself job. In fact, it is downright dangerous and you could shift metals into areas where you really do not want them. You want them out of the teeth and out of the body.

Good website to learn more about it - www.healthydetox.org. A very legitimate doctor that I have also known for many years.
So do not fear you are being misinformed.

Take care.

P.S. Haven't we talted about this before? privately?


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Gigi,
Could you please e-mail me.

I also am concerned about doctors availability in 'this' area. And how often do you have to see the detox doc? Is this a hands on type thing or something that can be accomplished long distance with supervision?

Lots more questions than answers for me I guess. cuz I'm still--just don--


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I forgot one more thing. I was trying to read the site you had linked Gigi and the text didnt fit my computer window without scrolling back and forth. I clicked view and made print smaller but it didnt do anything to this print. SOOOO --- I said I will fix that and print it and read it(much easier for me) But lo and behold it printed it off to one side too so was missing whole one side of the page. How do you adjust so it prints every thing? great site, great link GiGi thanks --just don--
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GiGi,

Do you think the drops are enough or woyld someone actually have to have all their fillings replaced. It seems to me to be very extensive and expensive... The drops are DNF.Have you treid them?

Just Don,

Are you going to take the sputnik voyage with me?........We can compare notes


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GiGi,

Is detox for mercury the same as using those DNF drops? Is it always neccesary to remove fillings?

Just Don,

Are you going to do the sputnik journy with me?
OOpps Sorry to repost!
daniella

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Danielle, did you mean NDF drops?
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Yes GiGi,

Have you tried them? What do you think of them? Did you have your fillings taken out? And did you get my email?

Daniella


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Have you tried them? What do you think of them? Did you have your fillings taken out? And did you get my email?

Daniella, yes we used NDF. Though under the strict watch of a doctor. NDF releases mercury over the kidneys and we only have two kidneys. If they get hurt, not good. We have no throw-away kidneys; the do not regrow or regenerate themselves.

Yes, I removed all metal out of my mouth and then followed it with a detox program to get the metals out of brain and rest of body.

No, I did not get any e-mail from you.

It might help you to read some of the many posts I have put on this site over the years. It is all repetitive and nothing has changed much since I posted in 2000. The only thing - I am well, my husband is well, and I am only here to tell other people that sticking with an abx program only is not helping the majority of the people. Only the whole-body multi-approach works. That has been my experience, that of my doctor, and many, many Lyme people I have become acquainted with over the years.

Most of the ones that say just Rife did it, or just this or that did it, are not telling the whole story. Most of them do not spell out exactly for the rest of the readers what else they did. What other major and minor therapies they did before they got to rife.

I know for a fact that several posters here were, maybe still are, heavy metal toxic and either treated themselves or were treated for it, while on rife or before. It is very disappointing to me for people to put out this kind of info and it is very misleading for the people that are so desperately wanting to do the right thing. Rife alone gets very few totally well if they have any of the underlying conditions that most ( my doctors says 100%) Lymies have. Many people get infected with Lyme and are not bothered by it.

Hope you find this helpful. I did not quite believe it either when I was first told that heavy metals can ruin one's life.

Do some serious research here - find a doctor without tunnel vision - and take care.
Try your e-mail again if you want to.



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Gigi:

Did Dr. K recommend this?

"Most patients of my doctor take the Sputnik somewhere during treatment."


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