quote: Servus with one another, something discovered, what can probably really help with Borreliose (Success ratio over 90% already after 5-7 treatments): Quite somewhat to, therefore here again extra could be thread. Photon therapy with bio NIC 880 system therapnostika.de - your partners fr diagnosis and therapy - empiric report Borreliose Possibly already does someone have experience thereby? According to Dr. Woitzel, it has Pforzheim thereby in the last seven years 500 patients successfully treats. Are on search for something, with which one can destroy the exciters completely. The Dinger would like to have had to remember also absolutely from my head (to mean thoughts) and not always, when the Viecher breaks and makes the life for me hell. With my physician again over the salt/Vitaminc if therapy will speak now and if it does not have (or no large) doubts, I will probably after-push this and possibly still the bio NIC 880-Methode will try. Greeting Carrot
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quote: I already made the therapy. It did not help me, although I tried it over longer time.
In addition, I know not reliably whether my complaints of the Borreliose or of the heavy metals come.
That could say to me surely so far no therapist. Some patients seem to have obtained an improvement, which was however not permanent with all.
However is very deeply seized 5 to 7 treatments. Often at longer term one therapiert. However one can not eliminate the Borrelien as far as I know with the photon therapy also, but strengthen in such a way in the favorable case the immune system that it has the Borrelien better in the grasp. Love of greetings
Reading further, there was one poster who was not helped, but felt it was ok to try. Then some discussion of salt/c and rife.
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quote: I was over 2 years with mentioned physician in treatment.
Beside bio NIC also still some other hedgehog achievements were used.
Result. Within this time has I mean ability to work lost, what conversely meant that its therapies led to a degradation, an improvement cannot I however to 100% exclude.
Until today Dr. W maintains that his procedure for 90% success has without also only a voluntary patient in particular to designate. When exact looking it is noticeable that Borr. - Successes were registered so far exclusively by Dr. W.
With its ang. Studies is to be occupied the effectiveness of this equipment. Although the practice of one the largest Borr. Specialist in Germany (Dr. Kleemann) from its practice gives it is distant for air line only 500m to today no co-operation.
Dr. K would be to be let treat surely not averse an control group parallel with bio NIC. A meeting bio NIC costs by the way 45 euros with neither the physician nor aid to be present must (duration approx. 25min). In its practice are mehrer devices in use. More easily one cannot make its money.
In practice after clearly more than 5-7 meetings are recommended to my experience. Who then still money over has can with it also still another so-called ETASCAN (�hn. Oberon) for 350 euros per meeting make.
I can only guess/advise that to everyone very very well to consider itself; -)....
quote: me for a long time considered whether I write in addition something, but I must it simply. I am now for 15 years active as welfare practical men and measures me a certain know-how on. before 2 years I experienced from the bio NIC. I bought it then, although I am rather against equipment medicine. concerning the borreliosetherapie I can unfortunately achieve no success with my patients. I acted exactly thereby after instruction, only as said without considerable success. with treatments a stress reduction aim at, is the bio NIC surely be worth worth. it works fear-solving and exercises a clearly easing effect. to that extent the employment within the psychosomatischen range is worthwhile itself surely and can be meaningful as support. I hope, I could help you winy.
(a later post... today only again in the forum looked. In principle we treat each patient individually. Each patient " its own; Borreliose" , which should be treated also patient-specifically. Unfortunately we learned that we cannot rely on laboratory values. Thus we test the accordingly needed means with the tensor or kinesiologisch, out. Here we work with Nosoden, Hom�opathika, Spagyrik (ISO) or also with queue poisons, for example at heartbeat disturbances. We always consider body soul spirit. Therefore we work additionally with methods from the energetic psychology (BodyTalk, EFT, EBT), in order to stabilize the mental condition. Regard I the therapy of a Borreliose personal as a considerable challenge. To that extent I may not speak of a healing in the medical sense, very probably however of a symptom-freeness, which is then, if reaches, for the patient a benediction. I hope, with my answer konnt I a little explain.
These last two posts were by some type of natural health practitioner. The rest of the discussions bemoaned health care practices, how he handled a new patient, and just miscellaneous stuff unrelated to 880.
Really, not much in there that has not been brought up here.
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Seems one holistic practitioner who has experience with the Bionic 880 said it didn't help & it was only for psychological/psychosomatic improvement... Who knows?
Photodynamic therapy - breakthrough in the treatment of Lyme disease
When Lyme disease is a bacterial disease, the tick bite after both as well as other insects causes. The Borrelia bacteria are the root of the spirochete zugeor DNET.
On basic scientific research is well known that the cells themselves using photons maintain their metabolism. When Lyme disease disease is the invasion of Borrelia in the cells and the budget of the photo cell is minimized significantly.
For this reason, the photo therapy for the treatment of Lyme disease into consideration. The photo-therapy with the Bionic 880 with eight different frequency ranges in the infrared range allows us to the energy balance, metabolism and the regeneration of the cell to influence positively.
Furthermore, we have found an elegant way, without administration of antibiotics to Lyme disease successfully treated.
About 6 years before parents came with their 3-year-old daughter to me, they asked me to find out whether it would be possible to the Lyme disease illness in their child alternatively to treat.
The parents objected to a high dose antibiotic therapy, which suggested they were from. I have knowledge because my parents suggested that a photo therapy to try. Already after four treatments that the child is completely free and complaining, it is up to the present time remained.
This was the reason that phototherapy further.
The treatment of Lyme disease with photons is now a standard therapy in my practice. Because of the significant achievements we have an enormous inflow and can be pleased to report that we have well over 90% complaint could achieve freedom. The relapse rate was initially about 5%, which was not ruled out whether it is acted Reinfektionen.
With this initial success, we introduced an application observation in collaboration with the laboratory center Ettlingen, and were also on the immuno logical reaction surprised.
On average, ranging from 5-7 treatments in order to achieve freedom complaint.
To assess the illness Lyme disease were both laborparametrische values as well as energy measurements carried out while the energy measurements indicating that Lyme disease in resonance with the body and the metabolism was modified.
These standard therapy has already been a number of colleagues and healing practitioners also successfully transferred. It is important to note that the standard therapy in the medical school antibiotic therapy, and it is the patient beforehand to explain the effects of the photo therapy.
Photo by cell therapy is to be able to eingedrungene bacteria (including viruses and toxic strain) from the cell herauszutransportieren and a modernization of the metabolism Normali bring. With the elimination of Borrelia from the cell it comes to a reaction with the immune lymphocytes, which ultimately destroy the Borrelia. In this phase, the patient just noticed that his immune system reacts, we can very clearly to the regular tests detect lymphocyte transformation.
Because of a large surveillance may be said: When initially high lymphocytic responses to Borrelia comes after phototherapy to a quick Normali-tion, ie the test is after 5-8 treatments within the normal range. (The patient noticed a continuous improvement in its complaints.) At very low lymphocytic reactions, there is a rapid increase in the immune response, according to therapy in about 2-3 months normalized.
This is partly to strong reactions when Patienten.Die treatment of Lyme disease means Photons has a success of well over 90%. Our experience with phototherapy now cover a period of 7 years and we can be pleased to report that we have only a relapse of 3-4% have.
Condition and treatment: Bionic 880 and Lyme disease-nosode plus possibly Borrelia afzelii original setting on the Bionic 880: Power: 100%; frequency: F3 (9.88); time: 395 sec (It may also in some cases not be nimble , F1 (2.47) instead of F3 (9.88) to use. This one requires special testing methods.)
Treatment: The original nosode plus possibly Borrelia afzelii are 3 fingers below the sternum attached. This leads to a demonstrable and measurable burden of the whole organism. It will then be treated following 8 points: Both inner wrists, both ears, the frontal brain (third eye), 7 Chakra, thymus, the solar plexus. Prerequisite for a positive treatment success is the application of Borrelia in the solar plexus, otherwise no purposeful reaction can take place.
Cycle of treatment: The treatment is 2 x week. Between the treatments should be applied 2 days free to congestion and to avoid over-reaction.
Overall, 5 treatments and then both an energetic testing as well as a laboratory test performed. Should the energetic testing positive, takes place at the same or the following day a new photo therapy. Then for a period of one month, the reactions were observed, without a more energetic treatment means Photons carry.
Checks should be made monthly and those with a positive result is a unique phototherapy said. In the application of observation were 108 persons over a period of 3 years treated controlled and monitored.
The success rate was over 96%.
In 7 years we have well over 500 patients treated successfully, we have had only 6 patients in whom there is a renewed outbreak of Lyme disease came. Were often re-tick bites or stings from other insects crucial.
Dr. Ingo Woitzel specialist in general medicine, natural therapies and Umweltmedizi s Hohenzollernstra�e 81 75177 Pforzheim
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We do have to be cautious about people posting on message boards... we really don't know who they are & why they may be posting.
If the infrared light works (ie: Bionic 880, etc.)... the drug companies have ALOT to lose!
Many drug companies that sell products around the world are located in Germany & Switzerland.
i can't see how anyone could say that using infrared light is psychosomatic. It seems unprofessional to me especially in light of the numerous studies done in eastern Europe for a number of health conditions & the studies done here in the US by NASA & the military...
Beware of dis-information.
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