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derk diggler
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just always been curious, are the floaters in my eyes that i see are the spirochetes or are they floaters and what is a floater, thanx guys im still learning

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Spirochetes are far too small to see. Floaters are debris. Wiki has a pretty good basic description.

You really should have your eye doctor take a look, though. Floaters can be serious if from a tear in the vitreous tissue -

- or not at all immediately serious (although it probably means you need more antioxidants to "gobble" up waste particles, of a sort).

You also may not be getting enough good fats. Do you take fish oil, krill oil or OmegaBrite? Those are really important for the eyes.
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I've had floaters for years. An eye Dr checked me out and said they were normal, but they can be a sign of retinal detachment if they suddenly become more numerous and /or are acoompanied by flashes.

It really reassured me to have the eye Dr check it out.

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I wonder why they are listed on Burrascano's symptom list?

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I've had a single floater in one eye since high school. Come to think of it, I haven't seen it in a while. Wonder if it is possible that it went away?

Also, it was a very specific shape, and I always described it as a lasso looking squiggly. But now, I could say Spirochete?! Maybe, maybe not?!

Isn't it possible that something extremely small like that was magnified in some way due to proximity to all the eye mechanisms?

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I just went to see an opthamologist recently... they had a brochure about it. It's just what Keebler said. It usually happens after age 40 or so.

Some people here thought they were parasite related, etc. but I don't think they are in most cases. It happens as we age.

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quote:
Originally posted by aperture:
I wonder why they are listed on Burrascano's symptom list? [/QB]

because they are common with lyme

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I've had floaters for a while. If they are a symptom of lyme, do they go away with treatment?

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Keebler
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Larae,

Yes. Most often if from oxidated "debris" "trash" or whatever you want to call it -

- but then it also REALLY helps to have all kinds of bright colored vegetables each day - and also take some good antioxidants. Some are more specifically suggested for eyes such as

ASTAXANTHIN (just search Google and PubMed).

This holistic doctor's site and his book are also excellent:

http://eyeadvisory.com/

The Eye Care Revolution - by Robert Abel, Jr. M.D.

http://eyeadvisory.com/eye-conditions/floatersretina/

Floaters


What helps:

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Topic: MAGNESIUM LINKS sets


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.
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A word about seizures and the eyes. I know some others here also deal with seizures.

I've no formal research on this, only my own personal observations. Seizures are not good for the eyes.

I'm far too tired and my dinner is about done on the stove so I can't elaborate as to all the things I do to try to offset the stress on my eyes after a seizure but most of it is just common sense.

Arnica homeopathic immediately afterward, pellets under the tongue, seem to help but I immediately take Fish Oil and antioxidants, too after the 20 minutes for the homeopathic to melt in my mouth.

Then, resting in a dark room which is good after a seizure, anyway, to calm the adrenals, etc. Progressive muscle relaxation, guided imagery, Reiki, or other soothing routines are also good.

It's best for anyone with any kind of seizure activity to always avoid fluorescent lights but, especially, for a day or two after a seizure.

Camera flashes, too. Duck under a table if you see someone about to flash (you can take at as good advice for all kinds of flashing, eh?).
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Heehee! Good one Keebler !

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Floaters in my eyes disappeared, along with all Lyme eye symptoms, when I started drinking mangosteen juice, an anti-inflammatory antioxidant juice.
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GlitchyMomma, I've had the exact same thing. They can be squiggly or have a kink, or sometimes very symmetric. I describe them as almost wormlike in configuration. I've wondered the same as you, if it is something magnified.
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I have had the squirmy looking floaters come and go my whole life, never worried about it.

Since I got lyme there has been a huge increase in the tiny round floaters and new visual problems.

My eyes have been checked by a dr.and he said they were fine in spite of the constant weird visual symptoms and floaters.

I feel confident my eye symptoms and floaters are tied into this disease just not sure how. I'm not quite 40 yet so I don't think it's an age thing for me.

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I never, ever had floaters before lyme. Now I can see little things swimming around. If I look at a white background I can really see them. Don't know what infection they are from but one if them is causing mine.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jamers:
I never, ever had floaters before lyme.

Me either.

This is what mine look like.


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The weird thing is, whenever I take any kind of "killing" medicine or supplement, they start to get tangled up and look like they are in a knot.

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Where did you get that photo Hambone and what is it supposed to be? This is sort of what I have but I only get one "string" in my visual field at any given time....sometimes none. Also, a blink may or may not change its configuration.
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quote:
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Where did you get that photo Hambone and what is it supposed to be?

This is a photo of candida under the microscope. I Googled it. I also saw a very similar photo in Dr. S's book about mold.


There is also info out there that liver congestion can cause increased eye floaters.

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Hambone,

Excellent to remind us that "liver congestion can cause increased eye floaters."

That is where the antioxidants are so very helpful to sort of gobble up the debris, so to speak -- but also be sure to have specific liver support, too.
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Depending on which part of the eye the floater is you can see microscopic floaters.

You can see spirochetes in the Premacular Bursa

I have dead spirochetes

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this is a drawing of some of the ones I can normally identify

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So does it mean I'm not crazy when I say It looks like I'm looking into a microscope sometimes and can see bacteria moving around? Well, it looks like bacteria or spirochetes at least...

I also have floaters, but the other thing looks like a slide with bacteria/cells under a microscope.

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