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Could someone please let me know what Photon Therapy is? I'm interested in learning about it. C.P.
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Thank you so much to everyone! I appreciate all of your help and insight in regard to learning about photon therapy. This is the best Lyme website in the world! C.P.
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- C.P.
Some here have gone to Germany work with the doctor who wrote that chapter above. There are some thread s here, most likely under the subject heading of
BIONIC 880 - if you want to search archives and then follow up for updates with posters if you intend to do this. It's been THE turn-a-round for some. -
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Thanks Keebler and LuluBelle. I will search for the thread to research further. I know Connie went to Germany for treatment, and she lives in the same state as I do. It almost sounds to good to be true. There are people in the U.S. who are in training to provide Photon Therapy to patients, but that Dr. in Germany sounds pretty amazing. Thank you, C.P.
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Keebler - Thank you so much for the links! you have perfect timing as I have decided to give this a try from a practitioner here in Minnesota that was trained by Johan Boswinkel.
I am not sure how different this is from the Bionic treatment because as far as I know she does not use the nosodes.
I will update next weekend with my opinion after trying it.
Thanks to C.P. for this post.
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- Adding a stray thread that just reappeared today with some same, some not-the-same posts as above:
quote:Originally posted by LymeXtu: I am not sure how different this is from the Bionic treatment because as far as I know she does not use the nosodes.
If it doesn't use nosodes, it's not the same treatment. That doesn't make it bad, it's just not the same thing just like herbs are different from antibiotics. There just different.
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I also have an old thread here, called the PE1 and the Bionic protocol, and old thread of 2009.
I also got my lyme dormant using nosodes and photons. So did my daughter. Since 2009, we are lyme free, thanks to that treatment. We did at home
If you don't find my old thread, I can a search for you. I m not sure I had my old screenname, hardynaka or this BRussels.
Good luck!
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- Judie just posted this in another thread today. Wanted to be sure it's included here, too:
Blog about a trip to Germany (keep in mind this is from 2008 and the blogger is still doing treatment to take care of symptoms):
. . . A number of patients have traveled to Cham, Germany to pursue this method of detoxification. Some have had remarkable progress while others have seen less notable benefits; though this is the nature of a chronic illness such as Lyme disease. . . .
In an apheresis procedure, blood is removed from the body from one arm, filtered through a series of filters, and then returned in the other arm minus many of the compounds that contribute to illness.
I was interested in the procedure academically, but was at a point in my recovery where another trip to Germany for medical treatment was not high on my list of considerations. . . .
. . . [scroll down to see his personal experience / outcome / thoughts Update May 2015]
- He's been a consistent & excellent source of gathering / conveying key detail about lyme treatments and various ILADS conferences, etc. for many years. If there is anything you consider, be sure to check his site to see if he's written about it. -
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Let's not perpetuate Dr. W's treatment here. here is my experience:
I went to see Dr. W in Germany for the biophoton treatment for a total of three trips and three months. Got worse each time. None of the lyme patients I talked to got any better afterwards. I didn't see a single case of improvement from about 10 patients I saw there.
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Rainbowriver, I wonder if you didn't improve because maybe the co infections are not the same as the ones here? The ones here are wicked. Either way, sorry to hear this.
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I heard that from my naturopath: she said, how did you get better from that biophoton treatment?
She said: 'most patients I hear of don't improve'.
The point is: I got treated before with other methods, and while I improved, my lyme kept coming back.
When I used photons, the way dr. W's does, that put my lyme dormant for good.
Suppose I HADN'T treated before these things:
- CAVITATIONS (I had loads of them)
- HEAVY METALS (I still treat these)
- amalgams (13 in total)
- scars (one was still red and itchy 2 years after the surgery)
- viruses
- parasites
- food allergies (that was bad, it was a turning point in my lyme treatment)
- psychological issues (like not wanting to heal, but I was not aware of it)
Or stuff like that, I wonder if I would be lyme free after more than 7 years now.
Dr. W's type of treatment treats ONLY Borrelia, guys. All the rest, you got to treat in other ways!
Had I got those many dead infected teeth (my immune system cannot reach these dead tissues), no wonder in the planet would make me lyme free.
Specially, because I get constantly bitten by ticks, even today.
Both daughter and I are lyme free for more than 7 years. Fully active, doing sports, our vacations are fully active, our brains working, we are 100% lyme treatment free.
And we are still being bitten by ticks, every year!
Photons + Bb nosodes treat only Borrelia. It's not a full lyme disease treatment.
If the immune system is broken, and Bb hidden in dead tissue in my teeth, or you get bitten again, Bb will be back (or never really gone).
Lyme is not a Bb disease ONLY. Bb is only a tiny part of the problem.
People in the area of dr. W are mostly all contaminated with Bb in their bodies. The great majority. I live close-by.
But only a small percentage fall sick with lyme.
Lyme is an immune system disease, and fixing the immune system is the ONLY thing that takes you out of chronic lyme, multiple re-infections cycle, multiple relapses.
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Borrelia wasn't the only issue with me (or with anyone with Lyme) so I had to treat the other conditions including coinfections, parasites, heavy metals, nutritional imbalances, etc. If I hadn't treated the other things as well as using the photons for the borrelia, I wouldn't be well.
IMO, photons only treat borrelia. There is ALWAYS much more to Lyme Disease than borrelia alone.
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My son had biophoton treatment done by Dr. W. in Germany and it did not help him.
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- For those considering complementary support methods / or other avenues entirely:
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
BOOKS - Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
knowing which methods offer assertive & direct impact, which are only support and which are both. And when to use what, how to combine, & when to step back.
You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . .
Links here to two major sources: Buhner, & Zhang. Be sure to get their books.
Washington University [in St. Louis, MO] will open second PROTON CENTER for cancer treatment as others shut down
By Blythe Bernhard - St. Louis Post-Dispatch - December 8, 2018
Excerpt:
Proton beam therapy, which has struggled to live up to its promise for treating cancer, is poised for a resurgence in St. Louis. . . .
. . . "Where the insurers like to say that proton therapy is not beneficial is often because they do not perform an adequate review of the evidence,” said Scott Warwick, executive director of the National Association for Proton Therapy.
“We have notified the payers that they have often either misinterpreted data, reviewed older evidence or omitted key evidence in development of their coverage policies.” . . . .
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