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dbpei
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I recently learned that I have 4 areas (where wisdom teeth were removed) in my jaw where the bone density is very poor and it looks like cavitations have formed. I have had symptoms in one of these areas for many years, including buzzing, sizzling, tinnitus and burning sensations. This is in addition to having lost almost all hearing in the ear on that side.

I have always suspected dental cavitations, but because so little is known about them, I have been reluctant to pursue treatment.

The conebeam x-ray I had also shows a lot of inflammation in the floor of my left sinus as well as a retention cyst that my ENT thinks is benign.

A new (well respected) periodontist I recently saw wants to do cavitation surgery on all 4 areas at the same visit. I am petrified and reluctant to do this in one visit because I am afraid of how traumatic this will be to my system.

I also have a lot of dental anxiety and requested sedation. All this dentist can do is give me Ativan or Xanax before and during the procedure.

Does anyone here have experience with dental cavitation surgery? I would love to hear from you about your experience and whether it helped you to turn the corner in your recovery. Thank you!

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I think so.

Check out betterhealthguy's experience.
http://www.betterhealthguy.com/cavitation

Also, my friend has been struggling with Lyme for 6 years and sees dr K in Seattle. They found she had cavitation a even though no other dentist thought she did. She had surgery and it was true. What's even worse they found PARASITES living in the cavitations along with gangrene. They parasites tried to wriggle out of the bowl once removed. Gross.

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dbpei
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Thanks for this info bcb. But what I would like to know is if your friend who had the cavitation surgery has recovered from the trauma of her surgery and if she feels that this helped her to turn the corner and get well. I can't imagine going through that!

I am (so fortunate) not very sick when compared to most with this illness. I am not bed ridden. I am not exhausted with fatigue. Instead, I must learn to live with annoying symptoms of buzzing and sizzling in my head 24/7. I have damaged hearing and balance due to this infection, but hopefully I have put a hault to that with aggressive antibiotic and herbal antimicrobial treatment.

I wish there were more here who could tell me that cavitation surgery made a huge difference in their recovery. I have Perry Fields' book and will read about her experience with it. I have also gone to some Lyme support groups where this topic was discussed.

It is a gamble and there are some huge risks involved. In my case, I just don't know if it is worth the risk... Better Health Guy states it can actually take up to a full year to recover. [Frown]

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I guess I don't quite understand all this dental stuff ... but ...

Not too long ago when I had a wisdom tooth removed, they said they found a cavitation in there, and treated it by injecting ozone.

Is this the same thing? Is there a reason that surgery is needed to treat a cavitation?

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From what I understand, cavitations are often caused by wisdom teeth removal when the dentist doesn't remove or 'debride' enough of the attached ligament. The bone may not heal properly and it becomes soft and spongy (porous) - often dying and this forms voids or holes in the bone. These areas become an ideal place for bacteria to live and grow.

There are mixed reviews on ozone treatment. I tried it with a very reputable dentist a few years ago. I think it helps some and for others, it is not enough. It may depend on the severity of the cavitation. In my case it didn't do anything to help my symptoms.

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I did 7 cavitation surgeries.

Yep, 7, not a single on my wisdom teeth though. I know wisdom teeth (when removed) are preferred places for infections, but I was 'lucky' not to need surgery there (until now).

First surgeries, I was fighting lyme badly. One of the surgery was during a new infected bite, I was screaming with symptoms, specially babesia.

The first 2 times, i was anxious, always.

The next surgeries, it was just like another dentist appointment, to tell you the truth.

my lyme doctor went with me all the times. He's done so many of these surgeries that I trusted him, really.

For all these 7 times I took teeth off + bone scrapped, I took no single day of antibiotic.

No anti-pain, medicine, nothing.

I did feel pain for one week. I did one tooth at a time, due to impact on my weak body. I think once I took 2 at once, but I can't remember any longer...

Homeopathic treatment few days previous to the surgery and few days after the surgery helped.

The dentist did a nosode with my dead tooth, and gave it to me to drink for a month (my lyme doc recommendation). That was my 'antibiotic', purely energetic as it was not even homeopathic, but an imprinted copy (radionics).

In the last teeth I took off, I has my violet ray already. I did it before the surgery, then after the surgery.

I swear for those 2 teeth I took off, I felt zero pain after!

The pain usually last about a week. No cold water on the teeth, please. It is awful.

But if you have a violet ray (I would invest in one, as it is less than 50 dollars for the cheapest models), then take some homeopathic pellets (that cost about 20 dollars or so), well, you feel practically nothing.

I'm TERRIFIED of cavitations, because I know what it does to my heart. I'm glad I took them off, even though I became toothless... I mean, I can't take implants, so I did partials.

One of my worst cavitations left symptoms for about 8 years or so. No kidding. Whole bone infection, through my face... I still feel the spot today, a bit.

If I had to do that all again, I would do that. No dead tooth in the mouth, is a feeling like taking a shower from inside out, and the feeling that you got rid of something that weighted like stones, inside your bones /teeth...

That is the way I felt, once the worst teeth went out. An amazing relief for the body.

I can't tell you I got immediate results for my health, in general. But I could only reach total lyme remission after the last cavitation was out.

I would do it all again, but this time, never forgetting to do the violet ray before and after!

I wish you good luck. I wouldn't do all 4 at once, just one at a time, or maximum 2. (for example, from one side, then from another, otherwise, you won't be able to eat at all, as you can't chew. )

It takes about a month for the hole to close (I mean, against food rests). Then within the next months, the hole will totally close.

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Thanks for your input Brussels. You have been through a lot. I have the Tesla violet ray and will get it out to use again! (forgot about this!)
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Old thread but anyway I just needed it. In general, I want to do dental cavitation surgery and other plastic surgery on my face, and at the moment I am looking for reliable companies where I can call.

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Welcome, Lauren!

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Hi Lauren,
I am not familiar with the company you listed. But there is a Facebook group that has a lot of information on cavitation surgery that might be of help to you. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1491839717746119

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This is a really very serious problem, why you didn't visit a doctor earlier? My father has suffered for many years with health problems because of what all his teeth collapsed. I could barely pull him out to the tooth to make him a new jaw. Several doctors refused to even try to restore his teeth. Fortunately, I found *** who helped us with this issue. For the first time in many years, he will finally have solid food and smile without constraint

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LehhyDav, this IS a very serious problem and most of us here on Lymenet try very hard to investigate our health issues, visiting doctor after doctor. That is one of the biggest struggles for all of us - being taken seriously and knowing how to find a good doctor who understands Lyme disease and all of the damage it causes.

I have seen many dentists, oral surgeons, and specialists about my symptoms through the years. Dental cavitations seem to be a mystery area of science and the jury is out on whether the surgery will help you or harm you. I have done lots of research on this and unfortunately, there seem to be as many who regret having the cavitation surgery as there are those who say it has helped them. Most of the science on it is anecdotal.

I was scheduled to have cavitation surgery this month, but cancelled it after my instincts told me not to do it. To help me with my decision, I saw a trusted oral surgeon, who told me that he would NOT recommend I have the surgery because he thought my conebeam x-ray looked normal for someone my age. He felt it could do more harm than good and that is my feeling as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by LehhyDav:
This is a really very serious problem, why you didn't visit a doctor earlier? My father has suffered for many years with health problems because of what all his teeth collapsed. I could barely pull him out to the tooth to make him a new jaw. Several doctors refused to even try to restore his teeth. Fortunately, I found https://perfectasmile.com/ who helped us with this issue. For the first time in many years, he will finally have solid food and smile without constraint

I just went into my natural dentist and she said capitations are silent. So it's not people just ignoring issues. I know when I had a tooth out, I had no pain, but got much worse with lyme. I needed oxygen injections, even though I had no symptoms in my mouth.

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