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Muscle Car55
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Pretty remarkeable some of the information surfacing about how well cannabis works for various diseases and disorders. VICELAND has a new show called Weediquette, that showed various stories of people where cannabis worked for them, in episode 4 they showed how well it worked for a young man with chrons, no other drug would work for him, the mother basically broke down crying saying it saved their sons life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMZCq56tToc

Real Sports with Brian Gumble had a special that showed how 50% in the NFL take cannabis for pain, in that episode a doctor from Israel showed studies that cannabis helped heal mice's injured brains faster by 50%.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9_zJBLODnQ

I was all pretty skeptic myself, until I tried cannabis oil two months ago. I haven't tried it since I was in school. The anti-inflammatory of this herb is very remarkeable, I felt a difference instantly! I've been using Turmeric over the years, I think it's no where near as potent as cannabis is when it comes to being anti-inflammatory.

Lately I've been trying various antibiotic protocols to get me to 100%, many of the European antibiotic protocols. Nothing seemed to work real well, until I got on cannabis. I'm lifting weights now and even though most of the pain is away, it still flares up because basically I'm using my body more.

It's still up in the air whether or not some of these lasting symptoms are from persister cells or just some type of autoimmune condition. I'll give you my own personal thoughts.... When I got on antibiotics for the 1st time, muscles all over my body started to twitch. This is common symptom from killing the Lyme bacteria in the early stages, after 4 years of antibiotic treatment has passed. A lot of the symptoms mellowed out!

Well when I got on cannabis oil for the first time, I started to get those same twitches in my muscles and tissue again. Same symptoms I got when I was in early antibiotic treatment. Just a coincidence or is the cannabis killing the spirochetes? Just as most of you feel, I think there's these last persister cells that antibiotics can't kill, whether it's due to biofilm or cyst form.

Since John Hopkins report released Fluconazole works well for persister cells, I've been using that drug along with cannabis oil and it seems to be working well for me. For inflammation and for some of my other remaining minor symptoms. Honestly, I think I'm done with antibiotics, there come's a point where you have to stop taking them. I have bad breath from being on antibiotics too long, either way I want to try new things. I think you reach a point in antibiotic treatment, where you think you may be doing more harm than good.

Personally though, I'm having really good positive results with cannabis oil and Fluconazole. I know many people complain of feeling dizzy when you're high etc... But I think if you learn to take it in the right amount of portions, you wont be as bad. I think your body adjusts longer you're on it...

Again, no magic cure, but I think cannabis oil, like Rick Simpson Oil can seriously speed up the progress with healing Lyme. Most plants automatically tend to be antibacterial, but there could be more going on with the cannibinoids with this plant. Like some type of healing process!

I've only been on RSO for 2 months, but other Lyme patients have taken it longer, like Shelley White https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=307cbbKw0xM

Her Story http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/09/12/amazing-story-the-healing-power-of-cannabis-oil-on-lyme-disease-and-lyme-co-infections/

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After hearing the many different cannabis stories over the years, I think there's definitely some soul saving going on here!

I know there's some harsh criticism over this plant, but first analyze how many Prescription Opioid deaths happen each year and then compare it to cannabis....
http://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/data/overdose.html

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Some more interesting news, the pharmaceutical company that took the CBD cannibinoids from the marijuana plant and put it in a pill for people with seizures, there stock recently just doubled...

https://www.google.com/#q=gw+pharmaceuticals+stock

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Yup...my husband's LLMD suggested CBD oil and it made a BIG difference in my husband's pain...big difference...

I AM A BELIEVER.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPmfeVDIZ18. This is ilads president saying that they cant kill borreliosis in vitro much less in vivo and asking for a doc to come help him in is practice. Cbd..? Oh ya all the years of consumption i believe kept mine in the background ...i wish i could try it again...

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CBD oil is legal.
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States vary in their laws.

For those new to this, be sure of the source, how it's grown, tended and what it's been fed along the way, too. I was surprised to see so many pesticides are approved.

Organic, as with other plants, would be best but even then, there would need to be some treatments to prevent fungal growth, etc. I've not had the money to explore CBD oil as I'd like for seizures but when a friend started looking around, just to see, the different strains / varieties were mind blowing.

Each strain, as with medicinal herbs in the same family, can be very different in their properties.

I'm not so sure how many strains are used for the CBD oil, though, as it's just out of my league.

At one time I got a quote for CBD oil for $150. an ounce and I would need many ounces a day as per use to address seizures. I stopped my searching right there.


http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/01/oregon_issues_list_of_pesticid.html#incart_2box

Oregon's new list of pesticides OK for marijuana means changes for some growers

By Noelle Crombie - The Oregonian - January 11, 2016

Oregon on Monday issued a list of more than 250 pesticides cannabis growers may be able to use on their crops. . . .
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Quality high CBD cannabis oil is amazing and the effects can last me many hours.

It takes A LOT of flowers to produce a small quality of quality grade CBD oil so it's very pricey, unless you're getting it 'cut' with say, glycerin, coconut oil, EVOO or cosmetic grade topical oils.

I've been using essential oils for a very long time to address pain & other symptoms. Adding the essential oils to topical cannabis oils/salves has made a difference in the lasting relief from inflammation and pain for me.

Keebler's so right... definitely try to get oil from a reputable quality-controlled (preferably organic) grower that does 3rd party testing for consistency & potency. Mold, microbes, pesticides and any number of things can make their way into a batch of inferior grade cannabis oil.

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quote:
Originally posted by bluelyme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPmfeVDIZ18. This is ilads president saying that they cant kill borreliosis in vitro much less in vivo and asking for a doc to come help him in is practice. Cbd..? Oh ya all the years of consumption i believe kept mine in the background ...i wish i could try it again...

Thanks for the clip! Yeah, John Hopkins study revealed they need to use Mitomycin C(Chemo) to fully kill it.

And that's why I decided to use Fluconazole with the cannabis oil....

I think everyone's going to find out, with all the different strains in the world, you'll have to find the right type of antibiotic combo that works for you...

Flagyl+doxy+ceftin Works well for a lot of people, but then you have those stubborn persister cells that this combo might not be addressing

As Doctor Dr. Fritz Schardt found out, for some strange reason Flucanzole works great! As time later passed on, the John Hopkins study found it to be great against persister cells.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15337633

Even still, with all these different protocols we use today, we still might not being addressing the biofilms...

This is some good talk though, hope it helps others...

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Originally posted by momindeep:
Yup...my husband's LLMD suggested CBD oil and it made a BIG difference in my husband's pain...big difference...

I AM A BELIEVER.

I'm so happy to hear that!

quote:
Originally posted by Blymey919:
Quality high CBD cannabis oil is amazing and the effects can last me many hours.

It takes A LOT of flowers to produce a small quality of quality grade CBD oil so it's very pricey, unless you're getting it 'cut' with say, glycerin, coconut oil, EVOO or cosmetic grade topical oils.

I've been using essential oils for a very long time to address pain & other symptoms. Adding the essential oils to topical cannabis oils/salves has made a difference in the lasting relief from inflammation and pain for me.

Keebler's so right... definitely try to get oil from a reputable quality-controlled (preferably organic) grower that does 3rd party testing for consistency & potency. Mold, microbes, pesticides and any number of things can make their way into a batch of inferior grade cannabis oil.

Personally, I would take Rick Simpson Oil instead of CBD if you have Lyme, that way you get all parts of the plant to kill the bacteria. But I do understand why some people can't tollerate the high feeling. I think everyone can adjust, but say you have a full time job or something, CBD is a great option for the morning and then then the RSO with THC at night.

I tried this hemp oil from this company called Special FX Labs, which is basically CBD. Man that stuff was still strong and knocked me on my ass. https://www.facebook.com/SpecialFXLabs/

Scientists don't exactly know how the cannibinoids work, but even the CBD could be antibacterial in some way. Here's a good article about cannabis being used on antibiotic resistant strains of MRSA https://www.technologyreview.com/s/410815/a-new-mrsa-defense/

Recently all the dispenseries got raided here in Detroit, so they removed all the cannabis oils from the shelves. Stupid ordinance the city snuck somehow, but it's understandable taking into consideration the reactions people are having with edibles. City officials just need to understand the difference between the edibles and oils... I for one don't really care if they ban edibles, but the other stuff that works well for diseasesed patients need to stay.

I went up to Ann Arbor to get some Rick Simpson oil, top dollar over there. $175 for 2 1/2 grams of RSO. The oils do cost more, but believe me, they are more reasonable in other locations. I had bought a co2 cannabis oil with 3 grams from dispensery in Detroit for $60, brand name too. Dispenseries are definitely price gauging in some cities like Ann Arbor, but I do tend to hear Rick Simpson Oil does tend to go for $50-$100 per gram.

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Bluebird Botanicals...Bulletproof 6x was my husband's LLMD's suggestion.
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finally. ive been saying this for years. this shelly girl got the original info from me. as the stuff is illegal here i was shutting up.
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good stuff, but not for everyone.... sadly

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The CBD oil my husband uses does not contain THC...it is legal everywhere I believe...you do not get high from it.
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Oh man, this topic is kind of so outdated in 2020. I mean almost anyone knows about the benefits of mj.
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Dude, on the one hand you are right, on the other hand not everyone actually agrees with it. I mean, we have acknowledged that weed can actually be helpful for us in treating certain diseases. However a lot of people are against mj consumption even in 2020 because either they do not believe in those benefits we can get from it, or they consider that people would still consume it mostly for recreational purposes. I also treted marijuana not in the best way, until i got into a medical mj IL dispensary medical mj IL dispensary as i suffered of ptsd and nausea.

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quote:
Originally posted by Donna Campbell:
Oh man, this topic is kind of so outdated in 2020. I mean almost anyone knows about the benefits of mj.

Yes, dated 2016.

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Just a head's up, for those who want to know. Ask about the CBD you are purchasing to see if some THC has been added to it.

I bought some CBD oil from a woman who told me many add a bit of the THC, and don't disclose that.

My sister has grand mal epilepsy and does not drink alcohol. She tried the CBD but became high enough to walk into the wall, so will not give it another chance.

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I strongly agree with you! Cannabis can help to cure some health issues. For example, my brother suffers from chronic depression... He is using CBD from cannabis to get over his strikes of depression. It helps a lot. CBD is really useful for him, he is really happy that CBD is legal in our country and he can use it without any problems. He is buying the CBD subform of oil, it is called CBD oil, and he is buying it from ctfocbdonline.com. He says that he can become really happy and sometimes he doesn't feel like someone ill with chronic depression.

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