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fenway
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Hey Everyone,
I am curious, does anyone in this community use a service dog? If so, I would be very interested to learn about it and share information as I myself have a psychiatric service dog due to my lovely lyme neuropsychiatric problems.
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Fenway

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quote:
Originally posted by fenway:
Hey Everyone,
I am curious, does anyone in this community use a service dog? If so, I would be very interested to learn about it and share information as I myself have a psychiatric service dog due to my lovely lyme neuropsychiatric problems.
Thanks,
Fenway

I don't have a service animal, but I have an animal assisted therapy pet. It is a med. sized parrot,(Solomon Island Eclectus). Her name is "Nani". She rides with me often and travels with my husband and I. She goes with me/us to keep me company because of my anxiety and depression. Her last trip was to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and San Diego.


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I think that puts her in the category of a service animal because she assists you with your anxiety... has she had any training??
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I don't have a service dog, but I know a lady who volunteers to raise and socialize puppies that will be trained as service dogs. It's really a great program.

Just curious what kind of dog do you have? I love dogs! I have an 18 month German shepherd that I had in a training class, but I had to drop it...feeling to lousy at the time.


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I have applied for a service dog. The last I heard, they were to contact me soon.

I am really looking forward to it.

I do expect to recover my health, but it will have been 3 years in October since I gone from working full time to very limited functioning. I have been on treatment for about a year.


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Service dogs are available from many sources and great for depression...I don't even have a "service" dog, but I can tell you that in my first year of treatment, my dogs were a big factor in overcoming depression no matter how black...just because they needed me!
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Thanks for the suggestion!!!! If I keep on the path I am on. Do not want to bother anyone. Can`t afford assisted living nor do I want to.

Am fighting & doing everything I can to extend my time living alone.

Never thought of service dog for myself.

Only problem I have these condo`s do not allow dogs, as my fog is clearing, just remembered.

Hope doe`s not come to that, but have lost due to death or move close fam. & friends.

It sure would have been a help for me this week. Just would need to teach it to go pick up my meds & grocery,lol.....

Good Idea for some of us who have numerous illnesses, & alone...

Hugggsssss


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quote:
Originally posted by fenway:
I think that puts her in the category of a service animal because she assists you with your anxiety... has she had any training??
fenway


I checked with a few organizations that certify dogs as a service animals to see if a parrot could get certified. Apparently, only dogs are able to be designated as a service animal. There are no guidelines for animals other than dogs. That is what my "research" showed. I even spoke to someone who certifies these animals. She said there are no agencies/ Vet. schools that certify other than dogs. I wrote a letter explaining what, why and how "Nani" is a animal assisted therapy pet and got a Dr. to sign it on his letterhead. We have not had any problems traveling with "Nani".

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A good source of information on service animals is IAADP.org, as well as DeltaSociety.org.

And yes, a trained parrot can be designated a service animal. Service animals are not limited to dogs, though traditionally, dogs serve in that role. The two main keys are that the person has a disability that affects major life activities, and that the animal is trained both for public access and specific tasks that specifically mitigate the disability.

There is no such thing under ADA law that service dogs must have any specific certification, though programs do provide their own certification. The behaviors that dogs must have to be in public, however, would mean that the dog should have something equivalent to a Canine Good Citizen certificate (see AKC website) at a minimum to even start training.

Unless you are a dog trainer, or have extensive experience training a dog, you would likely need to get a program-trained dog, or attend group classes and obtain additional ongoing training from a private trainer experienced with service dogs. Service dog training for the team is ongoing for life. Both you, the handler, and the service dog constitute the team.

Among the trained tasks that a service dog might do for a person with neurological Lyme disease (mind you, the actual tasks depend on your specific and individual needs): helping with mobility for joint, muscle, pain, and balance difficulties; awakening the handler; reminding the handler to take medication at specific times; leading the handler back home when handler is disoriented or overwhelmed; helping the handler distinguish between hallucinations and real events; stopping at curbs until cued with special words to prevent handlers with seizures from stepping into traffic unaware; responding to seizures in handler by seeking assistance from others, pushing button on emergency phone, or staying next to the handler; helping to pull off clothes; bringing the phone when the handler is unable to move. For another example list of tasks, see IAADP's section on psychiatric disabilities.

Though depression is a condition that is disabling, the mere presence of a well behaved dog does not qualify that dog as "trained" to be a service dog. The dog must be able to perform a reproducible, trained physical task.

To begin working with a service dog, it would help to have a letter from a doctor or psychiatrist citing that the handler is disabled and a service dog is recommended. You need to start a paperwork trail and documentation of all that you have done to ensure you and your dog qualify. This is important if you are ever challenged over whether you dog is a service dog or merely a nice pet providing emotional support. Therapy dog teams do not have the same rights as service dog teams as far as access is concerned.

But if you and your dog are indeed a qualified team, you have certain rights that enable you to go in public with your service dog (or animal), for example, restaurants and even hospitals. You can also travel with your service animal on board airplanes. And a service animal is allowed in housing even when there is a "no pet" rule. The service dog is an extension of you, as vital as a wheelchair, for instance.

Even so, regardless of rights, a service dog team tends to encounter many confrontations, since many people do not know the laws that apply to service dogs. Thus, if you choose to work a dog in public, you should expect a lot of confrontation and be absolutely up to date and accurate about the ADA laws as they apply to service dog teams.

Most service dogs are "dressed" when in public, that is, they wear vests identifying them as service animals. Some cities provide state dog license dogs that indicate the dog is a service dog. But as I said, there is no specific requirement on certification. Often, however, it helps to have some visual identification and or documentation.

Hope this helps. And yes, I have a service dog, which is how I know about all this.

Pooch


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thank you Poochini, you made every point I would have in your response. I have a service dog who provides many tasks for me, I would not be able to exist comfortably without her. Mine was trained, but like Poochini said, you can train your own. We havve been met with many access issues, and they must be fought as they come. Certification is not required, but it tends to give credibilty to the dog. A doctor's letter is a very important item, in fact I carry mine with me, along with my dog's ID card. The Delta Society is a great place to look for info. There is also another site www.psychodog.com this is a great site with lot's of info, and a more realistic list of tasks a pychiatric service dog should perform. Again, thank you Poochini for all the great info. BTW, my service dog is a minature wirehaired dachshund named "Ozzie"
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quote:
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The Delta Society is a great place to look for info. There is also another site www.psychodog.com this is a great site with lot's of info, and a more realistic list of tasks a pychiatric service dog should perform.

Fenway,
I think you meant to write www.Psychdog.org --though we all feel psycho on some days!

Poochini


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Once again thank you Poochini... I am having one of those "left my brain in my other pant's" days... I am glad you saw that and corrected it. The woman that runs that site, Joan, has been very helpful to me and I like to give her a mention whenever I can...
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and don't forget the MINI HORSE they have recently begun to train mini horses for companion and assistance animals for the blind. I believe 60 Minutes did a deal on one. Raised in NC, and gone to live in Maine, or the other way around. I remember them going for a test "trot" around Crabtree Mall in Raleigh.
One great advantage mini horses have over dogs is that they live longer...about 40 years.
Which of course is wonderful as they can be your companion for that long.
This guy wore special little horse shoes, sneakers, so he wouldn't scratch up the flooring.
He also had a pen outside.
As far as psychodogs, I have known a few of them...
My health is sooooooooooo much better I am now planning on owning some critters, two horses and a dog to start ...
anyone want to buy a nice condo on Cape of Cod?? great location...pet allowed also.
And speaking of condo and all, I wonder if the ADA laws will help a condo association to include a companion pet.

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Yes you can have a companion animal under the fair housing act... i don't know about a horsie though. Can you ride a mini horse??
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Originally posted by once bitten:
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And speaking of condo and all, I wonder if the ADA laws will help a condo association to include a companion pet.

By companion pet, I assume you mean an emotional support animal that is not trained but well behaved. There are some provisions for ESAs in public housing, meaning, that which is government subsidized, though I don't believe they would cover rental housing in general. For an ESA, in any case, you would need a doctor's "prescription."


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The Fair Housing Act covers housing that is not government run, but Poochini is right, you would need a doctor's letter to have an ESA.
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