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lazerorca
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I post this thread periodically becuz I wanna know if others are having luck with their tremors. this doesn't seem to be resolving with antibiotic treatment. I am planning on seeing a homeopathic doctor soon in hopes of maybe he/she will be able to help me out with this problem. I am NOT taking anymore anti-seizure meds seeing that none of them have worked and they turn me into a zombie. I am considering seeing a neurologist if this doesn't subside soon.
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Hi Orca,
First, B12 and B vitamin deficiency is definitely a problem with lyme. If you do a search for the Dr. Burascano protocol you will get a lot of help in answering a lot of your questions...it will also lay out a map of abx's and natural supplements that I found helped me quite a lot...somewhat cost prohibitive now that I am on dissability.

Second...the tremors...are they do you think a more emotional variety...as in anxiety like you feel like you're shaking inside and not that noticeable on the outside?? If that's the case then you may want to try Lexapro...it's a ssri and helps also with depression and anxiety for me and I've noticed the tremors are at a minimum.
If they are more noticeable like a parkinsons/lyme condition. A friend of mine has Parkinsons/lyme and she got on a antiviral medication that she told me has not eliminated but greatly reduced her tremors.
I don't blame you for getting off the anti seizure meds...they help some folks but they did nothing at all for me.

Make yourself a copy of Burascano's protocol and follow it...especially the supplements...I know you'll feel better...but give it time to work also like about three to four months you should notice less symptoms bothering you.

Good luck....................the zman

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You need to take bcomplex to help repair the damage on your nerves. Spirochetes remove the sheath covering the nerves its sort like haveing a group of telephone wires carring signals now peal the covering coating off the wires and rub them together youll here the wrong person on your phone or no one at all. Shorts out weak signal.
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I take Sinemet the Parkinson's drug. It's not a seizure med and for me has NO side effects. It works. For me 1 tab now works for 3 hours, though 5 years ago 1/2 tab would work for 4. Still, I haven't found anything else that works. If it wasn't for this drug I'd rip my leg off and beat it senseless just to get it to stop twitching!

PS I did about 15 shots of IM Magnesium last month in the hopes that this would help. It diod not work for me, but since many Lymies have an Mg deficiency you might want to try it.


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I have myoclonus (more like really big twitches and Tourrette's-like tics). It got very bad when I was on Biaxin, and reduced when I switched to Levaquin. Not sure why.

It's starting to pop up again though. So far, I've linked it to lack of sleep, too much caffeine (often combined with the lack of sleep, and stress.


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Hi all,

I had (!) experienced tremors for 18 years. They are in complete remission now.

How?

I was given a healing through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. It went like this,

First, successful Lyme disease therapy.

Second, (and most important), MERCURY chelation. Remove all of your "silver" fillings with a competent dentist. Then a sensible mercury chelation program.

It worked. All the way. For real. 18 years!

To give you an idea. I squeezed the toothpaste tube with my left hand for the first time last week! No big deal to many, BIG first for me!

Keep on, keepin' on!

-Lyme Wolf


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Hi all!

I'm gonna comment on Lazer's tremors and hopefully he will chime in and correct me if I tell something wrong

.....the way I see Lazer's head tremor is kinda like when you get a sudden chill and have a split second of a twitch thing.

This seems to happen randomly and if you aren't really looking directly at him when it happens, you really don't see it. I notice it mainly when he is carrying on a conversation and I am looking directly at him.

I have seen it too when he is in motion, like bending to pick up something or reaching for something.

His hand tremors are a little different. If he holds his hand/arm outward it's a side to side kind of motion with his fingers. Almost a jerky type movement, side to side. Not the whole hand shaking.

He says that doing fine tasks with his hands (like tying fishing line) is very difficult. His hands don't want to work right.

He also says he's been having tremors in his shoulders. This is a new symptom.

He has some "twitching" when he sleeps. I have seen this several times mainly in his face in the cheek and mouth areas. This lasts for longer periods of time rather than just a split second thing.

He also "jerks" when he sleeps. Like if he were dreaming that he was falling and suddenly jerks. This is more of a whole body thing but I've seen him do this and it only be a leg or an arm.

Lazer is actually very entertaining when he sleeps! His brother and I get a kick out of listening and watching him when he dozes off in the recliner.

He will moan, mumble, and talk in response to what is on the television. Even curses sometimes : ) Grinds his teeth too...

Lazer, you didn't know we were watching did ya?

Love you buddy!


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From Mom's description, it sounds like myoclonus to me. The sudden chill is just what mine is like.

Terter's posted a lot about this.


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Hi Lazer... I have much the same thing w/ hand, arm. Mine happens when I trry to hol something for a period of time - say the phone to my ear - suddenly hand will start shaking bad - like you can not only see it in my hand but also in the receiver - have to switch hands. Also notice it happens more in my left hand than right. Also do the body jerk when falling asleep. It really sucks cuz I barely sleep, then when I do manage to get to sleep - the jerking actually wakes me up. The twitching is everywhere - but mostly arms, shoulder, legs & eyelids. My left eye seems to be triggered by touching it - like if I rub my eye it immeadiatly starts twitching. My twitches always seem to get better altogether when on babs med - mepro/zith - but comes back w/ time.

Aniek -I've never been tested for myocolus - what is that exactly? Spiro, protozoa, other? Testing - lyme lab or will GP be able to run it from local lab? Thanks for any info.

~Cindy~


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Cindy,

Myoclonus is just the name of the symptoms, there's no test. It's uncrontrollable jerks. I realized I had myoclonus from some of Terter's posts, and then doing a google search. Here's a link to information: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/pubs/myoclonus_doc.htm#whatis

I mentioned it to my LLMD, and she told me to up the magnesium. Then the jerks/tics started in front of her and she said "Oh my, you have myoclonus."


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what exactly causes myoclonus... and is this a symptom of lyme??
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our llmd provider doesn't seem like she has taken a hint... so we are going to see someone else about getting mg injections... we will see if this helps. we are gonna continue to see dr. J in NC. it seems as though they will gladly prescribe me anti-seizure medication at the drop of a dime, but will quickly dismiss a suggestion like Mg therapy. I don't know why they don't at least consider it. they seem to wanna stick to the conventional method of medicine which is fine I guess. they are assuming that the lyme infection is causing my symptoms and that they will resolve when the bacteria is eliminated from my body.

I mean they are the doctors, but it seems to me that this may not be directly associated with the actual infection, but maybe a secondary thing... like as suggested in this thread maybe an Mg deficiency caused by lyme. I mean all they would have to do is TRY it to see if that is the case. covering it up with medication doesn't seem to be the way to treat an underlying problem. this just seems like a band-aid to me.

I mean u wouldn't fix a leaky roof by sticking a bucket under it... u would fix ur roof. this seems like an obvious thing to me. my provider isn't really taking this tremor thing seriously... she is working under the assumption that this is all caused by lyme, which I think is kinda naive of them to just assume such a thing. if lyme could be diagnosed with 100% certainty, then that would be a safe assumption. I don't think a bunch of half assed results from a lab like igenex that has very liberal standards for determining lyme should be the basis for why they think lyme is cause of my tremor. a lot of people from jersey are down here at ECU and I ahve heard at least 3 or 4 stories where their relatives were in much worse shape than me and were given less antibiotic treatment than i and are back to their normal selfs. it is just very discouraging and I feel underlying causes are being neglected by the all-encompassing lyme thing.

i have been in treatment since last october... there has been no improvement in my tremors. in all honesty they have gotten worse. some of u may say it is my treatment regimen and that they don't believe in what my llmd is doing or whatever. i have gotten a few of those post. i feel that going after this lyme thing 100% may be masking the real underlying thing that i may have.

the risks of long term antibiotic treatment are very high. I read a study about increased cancer risk with use of antibiotics. and these people in the study have done far less antibiotic treatment than I. I would suggest to anyone newly diagnosed with lyme to make damn sure ur diagnosis is sound b4 going through antibiotic treatment because from my experience, it is not working. it may be working for some people, but just don't get ur hopes up and believe 100% this is gonna cure u of ur symptoms. I have believed that pipe dream for way too long. but hey this may be only becuz I don't have lyme disease, and others do. that is what i am leaning towards the longer my treatment goes.

I don't wanna seem like I am trolling. i am truly concerned about possible misdiagnosis and I want people to know that this could also be a possibility. someone's condition could get much worse by believing everything falls under the all encompassing lyme blanket of symptoms. I don't trust anything that is driven by the dollar. and the fact that I have a 5 digit bill surmounted from my treatment so far doesn't really ease my mind. I know i can't be the only person with these doubts. things just don't seem to add up. and everything seems to be the exception to the rule of medicine when it come to lyme.

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there are a couple of incidents with my llmd that make me question their intentions. I don't wanna say any of this on the forum becuz I am afraid things may be taken the wrong way and i don't think it would be fair to newly registered users checking out the site for the first time. if anyone wants to know why, u can message me in private and I can get ur opinion on the matter if u wouldn't mind. I 80% believe that my llmd is doing the right thing. there is just a little 20% uncertainty there that bugs me and I can't ignore it. even my mother who I would say is much more optimistic about my treatment and diagnosis will express doubt on occasion. i don't want to put her on the spot in this forum tho.

but this is such a sh*tty disease. it is hard to believe certain things about it, and it truly takes a step of faith to accept some of the aspects of lyme and its treatment and I am not comfortable with that. for every bit of lyme info i find proving what many of u believe in this forum... i can find prolly 3 times as much info disproving it. I have to ignore a lot of stuff that i read to believe what i do about this disease.

no one seems to be getting better on this forum... and if they do, I question if they will relapse or if they even had lyme. i truly do want the truth and i want me and the people in this forum to get better. I think I and many of u have endured enough. my patience is wearing thinner everyday and my hope dwindles while waiting for some kind of breakthrough in my treatment. I mean if I were to develop a lyme specific symptom that would make me feel better if that sounds weird enough. it sux that everyone around me is living their life enjoying their youth while I am feeling like sh*t. as much support that I am getting from u guys on this forum, my mother, my roommates, and my provider, i feel like this is a lone battle. I know I am not the only person that feels this way. I wouldn't wish this sh*t on anyone.

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