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What can one eat while on ABX that would help in not developing yeast, fungus?

Can one have a small amount of fruit a day (a apple or mango) and a small amount of bread such as a bagel or is it best to totally stay away from sugars and carbohydrates like bread and pasta?

I am at a loss to what to eat at breakfast. I am not suppose to take flagyl on an empty stomach, so what can one have?


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Cut starches out like pastas peas beans bread if you must whole grain,certain cheeses,etc.
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There are lots of things you can eat for breakfast taht don't feed the candida, I have now found out. And do take it seriously, cuase I didnt at first and paid later with bad symptoms.

Today, I had pancakes, made out of quinoa flour, unsweetened soy milk, etc... Recipe was found at WholeApproach.com, a website dedicated to fighting Candida. Obviuosly, maple syrup cannot be used on these, but so great anyway. Go to their recipe section, then to the breakfast foods subsection. This recipe was called super simple quinoa pancakes. They also have detailed lists of eat as much as you want foods, limit foods, and dont eat foods that you can print out.

Yesterday I had 2 scrambled eggs, and an equal or greater amount of suateed savoy cabbage. I eat these together with a little Braggs liquid Aminos. I had a long day ahead of me yesterday out of the house and wanted to tank up. Might not be your cup of tea, but I am learning to up vegetable intake when I can, it levels out the acidity of the eggs to eat with vegetables. We grew up eating eggs with grain, but it is a bad combination.

They sell cream of buckwheat cereal at the healthfood store. I also just heat up leftover grains (quinoa or millet) and eat with Braggs liquid amino or unsweetened soy milk, depending on my mood. Left over soup is great also.

Another, kind of stricter diet you can look up is BED, Body Ecology Diet. They also have a website, and a book.

The book I've enjoyed most is Complete Candida Yeast Guidebook, revised 2nd edition, by Jeanne Marie Martin. A big detailed book, about half on medical, candida issues, and the other half some realy good recipes.

All three of these sources vary slightly on some issues, like one says don't ever eat a potatoe, another might say eat only red potatoes, and another you can choose one of these limit foods a day.... But the basic are pretty much the same, leaving you to find out what speaks and works for you.

And there is definitaly life and food without wheat, yeast, sugar, gluten grains, white rice and fruit, or dairy. It does seem daunting at first, but if a vegetarian like myself can find a path, you can too.

Happy eating


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Yep, eggs are good. I also have Atkins bars when I'm on the run and have to take meds.

Leave out traditional breads. A Granny Smith apple here and there is OK, but don't go overboard.

here's more info [the first link has information on diet...you don't have to follow it to the letter all the time....just when the candida gets out of hand]

Candida elimination: http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html
Lyme symptoms list compared with yeast symptoms http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021202.html

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Eggs are good. Sometimes I have Atkins bars when i'm on the run and have to take meds.

I would leave traditional breads alone. Granny Smith apples are OK. They have less sugar, but don't go overboard.

The following link has information on diet. You don't have to follow it to the letter, as long as your yeast is under control. While taking abx long term, it can go out of control VERY easily and very quickly.

Candida elimination: http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html
Lyme symptoms list compared with yeast symptoms http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021202.html

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There are 2 great books out there. One is the Yeast Connection and the other is the Yeast Connection Cook Book, both by author named Crook.

Dr. B's guidelines, in Tree's post, also has a good overview of the diet. Dr. B says some fruit is ok, but never on an empty stomach. The fruit he allows is high fiber, including pears and granny smith apples.

When you are starting, I'd suggest staying away from all breads and pastas. If you get to maintenance diet, and don't seem to be having yeast problems, you may be able to add some grains in. But stick to whole grains and high protein grains. Quinoa is a great high protein grain and is kind of like couscous.

If you do eat grains, besides the high proteins, the general rule is as high in fiber as possible and the longer it takes to cook the better. So long stem wild rice would be the best rice. This is because it's less processed and doesn't turn into sugar as quickly.

I also recently bought frozen hamburgers. They are easy to cook, no carbs, and filling.


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cooked brow rice and veffiews was one food that seemed vey good. My doc had me take, in a glass of water, grapefruit seed estract, 10-25 drops twice a day between meals (depending on how much your stomach tolerates). This has some antibiotic effect, as well as being anti-yeast. And, of course, yogurt is great for antiyeast.. Wheat germ is good, and highly nutricious (NOT sweetened, though! Soy milk seemed ok- I drank lots of that with no problem. Most important, though, always be concientious about the acidophilus-- and don't skimp. Don't take it to close to an abx dose, though, or it's an exercise in futility.
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quote:
Originally posted by Aniek:

I also recently bought frozen hamburgers. They are easy to cook, no carbs, and filling.


You mean meat patties, or what?

Dave, what's "veffiews?"

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i think the hardest part of this whole diet is that we are SO DAMN TIRED and it is a whole lot more work to shop for these foods and to cook them.

A bowl of cereal is easy.

I have cheated a little..... and so far so good -

be really careful about your pro-biotics - take lots of em.

Take them an hour after a meal or two hours before a meal.
I take two right before bed also. I think that helps.

Good luck.......


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quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:
You mean meat patties, or what?


The box I buy says hamburgers. Basically the same thing, I'd think. I make sure they are 100% meat with not fillers or additives.

On the energy side - you actually can get more energy when you adjust to the anti-yeast diet because it stabilizes blood sugar.


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Thanks Anie...so there's no bread with the meat?? To me, a hamburger means the whole thing! So I was a bit confused.

Now if we just knew what "veffiews" is!

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Breakfast is my main concern.

A granny smith apple, but not on a full stomach, OK what else? I take flagyl and biaxcin just after breakfast.

What about non gluton bread or rice bread?


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