LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » Question about herxing

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Question about herxing
sapphire101
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 6638

Icon 1 posted      Profile for sapphire101     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I just got finished with 60 days of doxy 100 twice a day.(I know that isn't enough but that's all my doc would give me.)

Anyway, I herxed the whole time on it and spent 3 weeks in January in bed. I have an appt. with Dr. C in MO on Thursday and now I'm worried the abx he puts me on will make me sick the whole time like the doxy.

If this is what usually happens with one abx is it more than likely going to happen with them all? Since being off the doxy I have felt so much better(still not good) and I just don't want to get that sick again.

I just want your opinion on this. I know you can't say for sure what will happen. I just need to get myself prepared for this. I was able to do a little shopping Friday for the first time in over 2 months and it felt pretty darn good.

Thanks,
Sapphire


Posts: 495 | From KY USA | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
sapphire101
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 6638

Icon 1 posted      Profile for sapphire101     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Is this a stupid question?
Posts: 495 | From KY USA | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
NP40
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 6711

Icon 1 posted      Profile for NP40     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by sapphire101:
Is this a stupid question?

Not at all. It sure sounds like a herx, and I would expect more of it after you go to Dr. C.

Doxy at a 200mg isn't enough, as it should be between 300-600mg.
You may herx for a while, but ultimately these do settle down, and some real healing can take hold.

Talk to Dr. C about your concerns and he may be able to pulse your abx, or prescribe meds to alleviate the symptoms. Good luck !


Posts: 1632 | From Northern Wisconsin | Registered: Jan 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
aklnwlf
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 5960

Icon 1 posted      Profile for aklnwlf     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Nope, that's not a stupid question Sapphire.

I think herxing is different for everyone.

Here's something for you to consider though. Lyme doesn't go away and in my case it progressed to stage 3.

I wish to God that I would have been treated sooner.

Herxing has been like living in hell, but hey, at least my dog is here!!

Also I've been on orals for 6 months and on my last appointment with my LLMD was told that I've improved.

I pulse my meds and do alot of supplements and drink tons of water. And alas, very little sugar and low carbs and lots of veggies.

Really hope this helps.


Posts: 6145 | From Columbus, GA | Registered: Jul 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
treepatrol
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 4117

Icon 1 posted      Profile for treepatrol     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You deffinatly need more treatment. The way you reacted to the doxy was the same for me I herxed all the time. As the load of spirochetes lessons so does the herx. And when you stopped abx's = stopped killing spirochetes = stopped toxins thats why you feel better off doxy now. But the spirochetes will start reproducing as soon as the doxy clears the system.
Posts: 10564 | From PA Where the Creeks are Red | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
sapphire101
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 6638

Icon 1 posted      Profile for sapphire101     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thanks guys. I appreciate the input. It just had me worried since I was on such a low dose of doxy what would happen with a bigger dose of abx.

I know I have to go through it and there's no way out of it. I'm actually looking forward to my dr visit and getting started on some real treatment.

Thanks again,
Sapphire


Posts: 495 | From KY USA | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
mil
Member
Member # 5774

Icon 1 posted      Profile for mil     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I read extensively about Dr. C's philosophy's and practice's. He does NOT beleive that strong herx's are healthy and he will adjust dosing to accomodate your reaction. I recommend you ask specific questions about how to get in touch with him in the event you are herxing too strongly.

I can EMail you about 100 pages of his office handouts if you are interested. I'm sure you have some of them.

We may get ill on our medications, but I don't think we have to be incapacitated.

I can't spell right now. Sorry if I sound illiterate......
mil


Posts: 19 | From corpus christi texas | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
hatsnscarfs
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 6562

Icon 1 posted      Profile for hatsnscarfs     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I felt awful when I took 100mgs doxy 2X a day for 4 months. I felt like it couldn't catch up with the lyme and I was getting sicker. The toxins made me miserable all the time.

I finally saw an LLMD and switched to tetracycline 1,500 mgs/day. I immediately felt better than I did on the Doxy. The medication was stronger but was easier on me than the doxy.

After 2 weeks of huge improvement I had intense herxing for a week. I made it through and since then have continued to have great improvement.

In December I was flat out on the sofa all week while my friends went skiing. I could barely move, my blood felt like it was vibrating. Now just 2 months later I went on a ski trip and skied 4 whole days, truly a miracle.

So, a change in medication might be a good thing. Keep an open mind, watch your diet (anti-yeast)and keep on fighting the keets.
h&s


Posts: 956 | From MA | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lymetoo
Moderator
Member # 743

Icon 6 posted      Profile for Lymetoo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Don't worry another minute! Dr C does not believe in severe herxes. If you feel really bad on an abx, he says to cut back. Hold off at least a dosage or two until you feel better. A severe herx can be counterproductive.

------------------
oops!
Lymetutu


Posts: 96222 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code� is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.