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I've been trying Niacin, and think it may be one of the most underappreciated tools we have. It seems to do what nothing else does, clearly opening up circulation with the famous flushing effect.
Used in conjunction with an oral chelation protocol (like ALA and DMSA), would this be helpful (making the chelation process more effective through the increased circulation), or potentially harmful in that it may just more effectively redistribute metals to different tissues?
Hope that makes sense, forgive me if it doesn't...
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I use flushing niacin quite a bit.
Yes its vasodilating effects ARE tremendous...aren't they?
As to your chelation theory...who knows?
I know that when I am getting overwhelmed with my environmental sensitivities...good ole niacin really helps..and gets my nose running.
TRout
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Both my husband and I took Niacin (working up to 6,000 mg quite rapidly) for many months.
This from Dr. K.: "For the psychiatric presentation of Lyme Disease I use large doses of Niacin. Niacinamide and no-flush Niacin do not work. 3-6 grams in 3-4 divided doses often show amazing results. It appears that Niacin has tremendous antibiotic potential against all types of Borrelia. I suspect that our mentor and genius in orthomolecular psychiatry, Abraham Hoffer, MD, discovered a treatment for Bb long before Lyme Disease was known."
I studied Dr. Hoffer's work twenty years ago for a schizoid relative! He is still at it somewhere in Canada. Amazing!
Niacin works great as an addition when getting into the Sauna. Anyone interested, let me know, and I will give the details here later.
Take care.
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Tom Grier wrote 1-2 articles in which he referred to niacin's function with respect to the quinolinic acid production caused by Bb. for those interested, it might be on http://www.wildernet.org. i read the hard cp form in a now-defunct lyme newsletter.
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Here are some comments for Ibrake re Niacin, DMSA, etc. These are from notes I took at a Klinghardt seminar re "latest findings and research in the field of chemical and heavy metal detoxification".
"My favorite challenge I already told you about: Is taking a hair analysis - you put the patient on an oral program for six weeks and repeat the hair analysis. This is the most intelligent challenge you can do. If the levels in the hair go up, it reflects what was mobilized in the last six weeks. It is a far more intelligent challenge than giving somebody a very toxic drug, like DMSA, in an environment you don't know what is going to happen, and then see what is mobilized in the first six hours. Because it is going to give you what you mobilize in six hours - but I am not interested in mobilizing somebody for six hours - the patient needs to be mobilized every day, 24 hours a day, for two or three years.
The challenge tests are very misleading and show what you kind of can get out in a punch situation; but it is not doable - you cannot give somebody 500 mgs every day. If have seen many people becomne schizophrenic from DMSA. I have seen people and children triggering seizure disorders, and I disagree with DMSA deeply and wholeheartedly, because I see all the complications. If there should be a website, it should be ``DMSA Backfire.com'' - not ``DMPSbackfire.com''. It is a criminal drug, but it is used by many people and for some reason it seems other people are not seeing any problems with it, which I do not understand, because the same people that go on the lecture circuit and say they had never seen a problem, I have three or four of their patients that did have the problems. The patients just don't go back to them after they have the problems. So many people live in the illusion that they are doing something that is side-effect free that can be quite severe."
My well meant advice: Please seek the advice of a MD physician expert (not a chemist) before dealing with DMSA and ALA.
Take care.
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Gigi, thank you. Does Dr. K think ALA is dangerous, too, or useful?
I've been reading Dr. K's website, which doesn't discourage DMSA, and actually promotes it as one of the options. It looks like he's changed his views since those articles, and you may want to suggest that he update his website to reflect his current thinking. I know you have posted a lot about this, and I will search your other posts before asking more questions.
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