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humanbeing
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This has probably been asked before..but does anyone know why if given the same strain of Bb or coinfections (whatever the wierd mix) and same duration and severity of symptoms--why do some do well in a few weeks while others take a year or longer?

I suspect it is yet another of the great lyme mysteries but any ideas? (I feel like there is this great divide between those who get well and those who don't).

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For sure, I don't know. I'm guessing it's because of the other things we have going on in our bodies... heavy metals, dental issues, parasites.

We all have a varying amount of these, I would expect. Some more, some less.

Plus, I guess we could have already had the bacteria before we got bit the last time. Maybe that last one just sent us over the edge.

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There are many people that believe there are different strains of Lyme...I forget if this has been documented or not.

Also as Tlady said...so much else going on in our bodies.

The coinfections make a difference too.

There are different strains of babesia, so you'd think there might be of Bb. The book I am reading is addressing some of these issues:
Biography of a germ.
I recommend it.
Got it at my library.

Also some LLMDs are saying it has to do with which bands are present or which bands your body is producing antibodies to. Some bands seem to create more chronic illness, and some more acute.

Anyone able to help me out here...the brain is on slow mo sunday morn.
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Thanks for the insights, do you know if the bands that tend to produce more "chronic" illness have been identified?

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Yeah, but I am not remembering which ones right now. I have foggy memory that one was 31. I do NOT have any published material on this,,,,I dont know if any exists.

ANyone else know about the bands that create more chronicity?

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trails, I hope you're wrong about the chronic bands being 31. I had a ++ on 31 and 41 was +++.

Hope someone has some additional info on bands questions?

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41 is for flagellin...not specific for lyme at ALL.

We all have spirochetes in our mouths that have flagellin, many people test + for 41.

Anyone know if 31 is specific for Lyme and if it might be one SOME docs have linked to chronicity?

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I checked on Treepatrol's links for bands and 31 is for the outer surface protien A which is specific for Lyme.

BUT---My foggy brain doesnt remember about the chonicity thing. I really DONT think it was written anywhere. It should NOT be taken as medical advice. It should NOT be a reason to stop fighting or feel that you are doomed. It was just somethng that some LLMDs were THINKING about and trying to figure out.

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kay?

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Now, that is intriguing. I have +++ at Band 31.

My body is in relatively good shape!

But my brain is not a pretty picture on MRI. Some lesions are almost 2".

I have no intention of EVER giving up. Stretches of headache-free time get longer with treatment. Each reprieve is new inspiration!

Keep that research comin!

Michelle

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It is my understanding that there are many variables that when added together produces the different results in people. Age, sex of the individual ( I have seen some articles that say female hormones play a role) immune status, overall health profile and coinfections. Strain of all of the diseases very important also. Add all that together, you have a slop pot of who really knows. I had 4 coinfections only a year and a neuro mess. I would love to be one of the ones to get better. Keep trying! [hi]
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