Linda LD
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Burrascano thinks it can be transmitted sexually.
Found out my old flame was treated for Lyme--haven't actually talked to him about it...when we broke up he had mono and my thyroid was hyper--it would take me over 10 years to get diagnosed for the thyroid and the Lyme.
Me and my husband meet and traded bugs...his first wife is as healthy as a horse--but he really believes he has had Lyme since college--I think different people have different immune systems...
You both need to be treated.
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Sexual transmission is STILL up in the air. NO studies whatsoever done on it the last I heard.
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Just because there are no studies...doesn't rule it out.
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Linda LD
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If babies can get it from breast milk and your trading spit with hubby--I'd get treated...as the first George said, "It would be prudent!"
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I work and play in the woods. I've been bitten a lot wife hunted once in a area that I use to hunt at that time there I never saw a tick.
She got tested a couple of years after I was confirmed with lyme 2 strains and coinfections.
Both her 3day urine and western blot came back poss+++.
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My husband has lyme and we (we meaning us and our llmd) are %99.99 positive he got it from me.
He had never been bitten by a tick (city boy!)....and shortly after we got married he got really sick...high fever and aches and pains. His temp reached 104 so I took him to the emergency room.
They said he had some kind of infection but didn't know where it was or what it was!
About a six months later he tested positive....our llmd said it was the most positive test he had ever seen...indicating that it was a fairly recent infection.
We were both virgins on our wedding night...he couldn't have gotten it from anyone else.
Thankfully my hubby has no symptoms after a year of antibiotics.
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My husband and I both have it and the coinfections. He worked in our old house's yard- planting. landscaping, etc. Our lot had deer and the longer we lived there we learned lots of ticks. I never remember a bite but he did. We both go to Dr. B after years of trying to battle this disease. First thing, he did with us was to sit us down and tell us it may be sexually transmitted. All three of my kids have it too. Dr. Jones thinks my younger son got it through the pregnancy or breastfeeding process. It makes sense. The bacteria can live in bodily fluids so why on earth couldn't it be passed on?
Studies have found the spirochete in horses semen. I think he talks about it in the Hope to Heal Lyme video if memory serves me right. He beleives partners can transmit it back and forth- so it is so important both get treated and tested properly.
Make sure you use Igenex labs. We did years of MDL PCR's and nothing came up for a awhile. I must of had 15 PCRs before I had a positive.Igenex tests just seem more accurate.
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My whole family has Lyme. I didn't have any idea that I had it, though, until almost 2 years after my son had been diagnosed. Didn't suspect that my husband had it until I started adding up all of his symptoms - His list was quite long! After he tested positive, I had my other 2 kids tested...positive. I guess that I could have gotten it from my husband but don't think that I passed it to the kids (who are now 19 and 22).
We vacation in Old Lyme, CT and live in Southcentral PA. Enough said! I can't even look at wooded areas now without thinking 'ticks'!!!
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About 2 months ago, I tested ``very high positive'' for Lyme using the Bowen Q-RiBb test. I was concerned about ``passing'' it to my boyfriend.
He got tested last week, and he tested exactly the same as I did - very high positive. His numbers are exactly the same as mine. Both of us have the highest numbers you can get, and we are the highest numbers our ND has ever seen. We both tested negative on the co-infections.
This does not mean that my boyfriend got his Lyme from me. Although it is very coincidental that he began having neurological and other symptoms within about a year and a half after we got together, there are just too many variables to consider.
I'm just glad we know now . Hopefully, he will never have to go through what most of us have.
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quote:Originally posted by JimBoB: MAYBE it is time for the jerks who RUN this system WE have to live in, get busy and DO a study, correct? Jim
The fact we know everything about borrelia except the sexual transmission says it all. Some old studies have shown horizontal transmission but all research in that area has been squelched. The jerks no darn well it is. From male to female transmission is very possible. With married couples it's almost a certainty. Female to male is alot tougher.
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My LLMD told me that probably 7 out of 10 people in Lyme, CT have Lyme Disease, but all don't know it. He believes it all has to do with ones immune system. He said I had a really crappy immune system, and after we finish treating the Lyme, we're going to work on the immune system....getting it stronger.
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In lyme endemic areas, up to 12% of the population is infected. (According to Dr. P)
Wouldn't it make sense since most people never saw the tick bite...maybe it wasn't a tick bite.
I also agree with the immune system playing a huge role. My family has a long history of autoimmune diseases like alopecia, vitaligo and RA. My hubby may have steel running through his veins and I have spiroketes.
This means that every time I get well, I could be getting reinfected by hubby w/o knowing it. That's it, he is getting treated whether he wants to or not. (But he is a good guy thank God).
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How could this be. How could you have lyme and not be symptomatic.?
I think we have alot of answers. The first thing to understand is the difference in "lyme borrelia" and other strains. It's not possible to have "lyme borrelia" and not have symptoms. There's a genetic screw up in the borrelia which causes inflamation / disease in the host. Other strains of borrelia cause different problems depending on the strain and most people with borrelia are asymptomatic.
Dr. Harvey imo seams to understand the problem best. I just found this in pubmed. Here ya go.
'Lyme disease': ancient engine of an unrecognized borreliosis pandemic?
Harvey WT, Salvato P.
Diversified Medical Practices, Texas, Houston, USA. [email protected]
Unexpectedly we have found large numbers of chronically ill Borrelia burgdorferi PCR- and seropositive patients in Houston, Texas, a zoonotically 'non-endemic' area. In order to understand this finding prior to sufficient data availability, we chose to examine critically currently accepted but troublesome 'Lyme disease' concepts. Our method was to analyze each foundation 'Lyme disease' premise within the context of available medical and veterinary literature, then to reconstruct the disease model consistent with the preponderance of that data. We find the present conceptualization of the illness seriously truncated, with a high likelihood of two distinct but connected forms of human B. burgdorferi infection. The yet-unrecognized form appears to have a broader clinical presentation, wider geographic distribution, and vastly greater prevalence. We conclude that 'Lyme disease' currently acknowledges only its zoonosis arm and is a limited conceptualization of a far more pervasive and unrecognized infection state that must be considered a global epidemic.
PMID: 12710914 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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JimBoB
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HOW are they ever going to agree on HOW it is transmitted when they can't even agree on what percentage of people have it or get it.
One duck says that 70% in an area have it and another says that only 12% in an area have it.
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The fact it is shaped liked syphilis - related to syphilis - acts like syphilis - can be found in semen - makes me think it is sexually transmitted.
I have more to back up my theory including numerous UTIs after intercourse with my husband which would only respond to Levaquin and Zithromax....Macrobid never worked.
Of course we both were big hikers, went to Nantucket, moved to NC where the ticks were so bad we actually woke up to one crawling up our bedroom wall one morning...yeah YIKES!
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quote:Originally posted by humanbeing: I also agree with the immune system playing a huge role. My family has a long history of autoimmune diseases like alopecia, vitaligo and RA.
Is your long history of autoimmune diseases really autoimmune or the same borrelia being passed down each generation? I'd say the latter. As to reinfection my llmd always checked the partner.
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