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sofy
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Im really in a brain fog mess lately but have been reading about taking lot of freeze dried garlic posted by Gigi.

As I gather this is suppose to be taken on an empty stomach and you cut down when you start to reek like garlic.

Last year I was eating raw garlic with almost every meal and then my daughter said she couldnt stand to be with me in the car or room cuz I smelled.

I stopped the raw garlic and bought some odorless garlic by Kal. The body reek went away.

I cant see why raw garlic wont do as good for us as freeze dried but I dont know how much to take and when to take it. Is with meals ok or should it only be after food?

Does the same rule apply about cutting down until you no longer reek for it to be evvective for us?

fyi = I never did see that raw or odorless pill for did any good for me cuz I still taking the pills and still just as brain & body dead as ever.

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GiGi
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I have posted so much about Garlic. I have posted everything I know and everthing Dr. K. ever put out.

Only take organic garlic.
Do not take garlic close to taking other herbs/plants. Garlic counteracts them if you take it at the same time. Space them apart.
Take garlic only right after you eat when the digestive juices are still flowing.

Or take the capsules and empty them into a cup of hot water to release the allicin and then drink it. If you make the tea out of it, you do not have to take it right following a meal.

I took a lot of garlic, Freeze Dried Garlic, because I had it available three times a day and I didn't skip around taking it one day and not the next day because I r

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I have posted so much about Garlic. I have posted everything I know and everthing Dr. K. ever put out.

Tget the most out of garlic, use only organic Garlic. The odorless is not recommended. Or all the other different forms do not work as well.
Freeze dried - it retains all its qualities that you need to do the job. It is freeze dried in a way to retain it all.

To get the most effect, do not take garlic close to taking other herbs/plants. Garlic counteracts them if you take it at the same time. Space them apart.

Take garlic only right after you eat when the digestive juices are still flowing.

Or take the capsules and empty them into a cup of hot water to release the allicin and then drink it. If you make the tea out of it, you do not have to take it right following a meal.

I took a lot of garlic, Freeze Dried Garlic, because I had it available three times a day and I didn't skip around taking it one day and not the next day because I had run out of it. If you do this as a protocol as antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal, you need to do it every day and stick with it for a while.

Once you have saturated/titrated your body and your daughter refuses to be around you, reduce the intake to where it is tolerable and you can be around people. It does not take much to get to that point. I started out with 3-4 capsules of Organic Freeze Dried Garlic 3 times a day, and then reduced it to where I was still liked by my children. Everybody is not the same as far as how much.

The garlic bulbs that you buy in the grocery store is usually not organic and contains already a number of heavy metals and toxins that I don't think you really want in your body. Especially the ones from China! Be careful.

The nature of garlic is such that it picks all these toxins up even from the ground where it grows or from the water and air while it is growing. Most onions fall into this sulfhydril group of plants and are superb detoxers for that very reason. We take it so it can do the same thing for us and take away anything that makes the microbes, of any kind, welcome in our body.

Please pull some of my posts about garlic when you have a better day.

Take care.

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Thanks Gigi
I buy raw organic garlic at the grocery store that is grown in California so Im comfortable with eating and cooking with it.

I dont remember ever reading anything about taking raw garlic and if you have to take it after the meal for it to be effective like the pills.

Taking it with 3 meals a day and not with any other herbals sure will make it difficult. But then what isnt difficult.

Ive read most of your posts but dont remember them all and searching is VERY DIFFICULT for me but I will do it

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Sofy, here is more - why freeze dried garlic and why organic garlic California garlic unless certified as organic is not organic and if you want to get the best out of it, to help your ailments, it is recommended to use organic only.

The following is what Dr.K. tells his patients:

" Garlic (allium sativum) and wild garlic (allium ursinum)

Garlic has been shown to protect the white and red blood cells from oxidative damage, caused by metals in the blood stream - on their way out - and also has its own valid detoxification functions.

Garlic contains numerous sulphur components, including the most valuable sulph-hydril groups which oxidize mercury, cadmium and lead and make these metals water soluble. This makes it easy for the organism to excrete these substances.

Garlic also contains alliin which is enzymatically transformed into allicin, nature's most potent antimicrobial agent.

Metal toxic patients almost always suffer from secondary infections, which are often responsible for part of the symptoms.

Garlic also contains the most important mineral which protects from mercury toxicity, bio-active selenium. Most selenium products are poorly absorbable and do not reach those body compartments in need for it. Garlic selenium is the most beneficial natural bioavailable source.

Garlic is protective for heart disease and cancer.

The half life of allicin (afer crushing garlic) is less than 14 days. Most commercial garlic products have no allicin releasing potential left. This distinguishes freeze dried garlic from all other products. Bear garlic tincture is excellent for use in detox, but less effective as antimicrobial agent.

Dosage: 1-3 capsules frees dried garlic after each meal. Start with l capsure after the main meal per day, slowly increase to the higher dosage. Initially, the patient may experience die-off reactions (from killing pathogenic fungal or bacterial organisms). Use 5-10 drops bear garlic on food at leas three times per day."


You can also empty the freeze dried garlic capsules into hot water, as a tea, let it sit a couple of minutes, and then drink it. You then do not have to wait for using it following mealtime. It will be absorbed this way.

Do not take Garlic at the same time as you are taking other herbal products. Garlic interfers with others.

Take care.

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are kal or kyoloic brand of garlic acceptable?
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Trails, I dont know if Kyolic is as good at killing bacteria as the bio pure but I just got off the phone with them and they do use only organic garlic grown in Calif or Japan so as least the product sounds safe.

I want to get better and would like to not reek from 2 blocks away also so Im thinking about taking a mix of raw, cooked and perhaps the Kyolic stuff.

Here are some shortened bits I copied from web sites when I was looking to see if cooked, raw were the same effective for killing bad guys.

Apparently they are all good, it depends what you are looking to do. I want to do most of it so will have to mix it up.
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from: http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T23003.html

In what seems to be one of nature's contradictions, raw garlic has less biological activity than when processed in some way. When it is "damaged", by slicing, cooking or chewing, the enzyme alliinase immediately converts alliin into allicin, which gives garlic its characteristic odor. Research is continuing to help define which forms of garlic are best for which purposes.

For anti-bacterial or anti-viral effect, raw garlic is better than cooked. Both raw and cooked garlic seem to have cardiovascular, decongestive and anti-cancer benefits. Eating more than three raw cloves a day can cause gas, bloating, diarrhea and fever in some people. Cooked garlic is gentler on the stomach.

Allicin was once thought to be garlic's principal active ingredient but researchers now know that allicin is rapidly oxidized into more than 100 biologically active compounds. While allicin may still serve as a general marker of garlic's potency, research increasingly points to S-allylcysteine and other compounds as the most therapeutically active ingredients in garlic.

So how should you take garlic? Most scientific studies have, for consistency, used a standardized garlic extract in capsule or liquid form. However, just about any form offers some benefits. If you enjoy the taste of garlic, and others are not offended by the odor on your breath, use it liberally in your food. Otherwise, deodorized garlic provides the desired benefits without the odor. Either way, garlic is good for your health.

from: http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfree.asp?DOCID=1G1:16594803&ctrlInfo=Round19%3AMode19b%3ADocG%3AResult&ao=

Raw or cooked? The effectiveness of garlic differs when it is eaten raw and when it is cooked. Raw garlic kills some bacteria, boosts immune functioning, and may help prevent cancer. On the other hand, cooked garlic contributes to lowering blood cholesterol and keeping the blood thin. Eating garlic both raw and cooked provides the maximum benefits.

from sofy:
the more I read the confusder I get so am going to go in the kitchen and eat eat eat all the garlic and pills. You will know me when you smell me comin"

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Trails,

I have not used the products you mentioned, so don't know if they have they are freeze dried and have the allicin potentcy left that is necessary to kill the bugs. I always only used freeze dried garlic which retains the allicin.

"The half life of allicin (after crushing garlic) is less than 14 days. Most commercial garlic products have no allicin releasing potential left. This distinguishes freeze dried garlic from all other products."

From Dr. K's website:

The active antimicrobial in garlic is allicin (Ankri & Mirelman, 1999).

It has MIC (minimum inhibitory concentration) values very similar to antibiotics and antifungals for their prospective targeted organism.

For example, the MIC for Staphylococcus aureus is 26, Escherichia coli is 44 and Candida albicans is 36 (these are all astoundingly low numbers, indicating that allicin is a potent antibiotic or antifungal for these organisms!).

Allicin also kills protozoa's such as Cryptosporidium, E. histolytica (Mirelman et al., 1987) and Giardia (Harris et al., 2000).

Allicin is effective against viruses such as the Rotavirus (Blake, 1983), Influenza virus (Fenwick & Hanley, 1985) and viruses from the herpes family (i.e. HHV-6 and others), to name just a few (Tsai et al., 1985).

Yet it is not cytotoxic and does not harm the beneficial bacteria in the gut, i.e. the lactic acid bacteria such as Lactobacillus acidophilus and Bifidobacterium bifidum (Rees et al., 1993).

That's enough on garlic, I think. In any case, I tried.

Take care.

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