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Since starting treatment, I've experience a lot of muscle twitches which I didn't recall before treatment. Could this be the reaction of muscle to the toxins of dying ketes? Apprecaite any insight on this?
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Hi, I have this too. Mine is due to neurological lyme and so many symptoms associated with the neuro part caused by the disease.
I notice it more with treatment, and go through stages of it being worse than other times.
Somebody that has been on here longer should be able to answer your question better than me.
I can usually "ignore" mine but it gets hard when I have the trembles and muscle spasms going on at the same time.
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I hate them. Almost constant now calves,toes, sometimed hands or arms. Looks like worms jumping
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I got em all over. The first time I was treated I noticed increased twitches with each antibiotic pill. That was the only herx response I recall.
I have so many twitches now it's hard to tell what the antibiotic is doing. When I go to bed it's hard to fall asleep because I feel like there are creatures jumping underneath my skin.
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I too have these. I had them before treatment and they got really bad once I started antibiotics. They were constant. I have been in treatment now for 13 months and they are finally resolving. Knock on wood. I maybe get 15-20 a day now, which is better than per minute.
Take care and peace.
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It can be toxins and it can also be the Lyme itself. Twitching recently worsened for me, and I was on a much lower dose of abx. Really wasn't treating the Lyme. My LLMD says its a sign that we lowered abx too soon and the Lyme is really showing itself.
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Beside skin burning, twtiching is my main Lyme Symptom.
High doseages of Mag takes care of them. MAg is a muscle relaxant.
When I take Mag I do NOT twitch.
You do not have to worry about taking too much. It is also a stool softener, so work up to that level and then back off.
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This is a very common Lyme disease symptom, and it will get worse when you are herxing.
To take care of the twitching, our bodies need magnesium. You should take MAG TAB SR daily, not cal/mag supplements because they are not absorbed. I use magnesium sulfate injections 1 gram 3x weekly and it stops my twitching completely. You need a prescription for the injections, I do them myself. Hope this helps some of you!
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I have twitches, but they are more like a combination of the chills and tremors, and they seem more neurologically mediated because they happen all over. They could also be described as mini-muscle spasms all over, causing arms, legs and torso to jerk.
The neurologist said they were due to anxiety, ha ha.
How much Magnesium SR should be taken?
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The easiest way to tell if magnesium will help with twitches and tremors is to try an epsom salts bath or footsoak. The body will only absorb as much magnesium as is needed and the sulphur will help with other detox functions. Do a search on Lymenet -- lots of previous discussion on magnesium.
If this helps with twitches and tremors then extra magnesium is needed. The dose must be individualized -- too much oral supplementation will simply cause diarrhea.
If the epsom salts bath makes you feel worse that is a very strong indicator that you are toxic and probably need more sulphur and could possibly be deficient in glutathione as well.
I give hubby IV magnesium 1 or 2 times weekly. If you get mag sulfate by IV you will feel flushed when the tissues become saturated. Dr B on Long Island taught me to test hubby's reflexes and to do IV's when the reflexes were too fast.
Bea Seibert
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Aniek
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Jeff,
The jerking sounds like myoclonus. Myoclonus is uncontrolled movements.
My myoclonus often causes repetitive movements, similar to Tourette's tics. One movement is my right hand repeatedly tapping my left shoulder. Often I will repeatedly turn my head to look over my right shoulder. It usually ends up having to stay in that position for a few seconds.
Lately I've been getting more intense movements. I woke up a few times last night and was basically thrashing in bed. At times my whole body basically jumped to the left, then to the right.
Honestly, I don't think magnesium helps with this. I really believe it is neurological. Watching somebody with similar symptoms activates. Like watching Michael J. Fox speak. It's also semi-controllable, in that I might have it while stopped at a red light, but it stops as soon as I start driving again.
Besides this, I actually get muscle twitches, which is just feeling a muscle kind of pulsate or move just once. That usually does not cause any movement of a limb. It just feels weird.
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Magnesium is essential for neurological Lyme disease. The injections really work best. if you are on IV antibiotics, ask your LLMD for magnesium IV's 2-3 times per week, it makes a world of difference with the twitching and jerking. The Mag Tab, take to bowel tolerance, you can take 2 caps 2x a day, if you get diarrhea, cut back by one tablet. All magnesium will do that. I do injections 1 gram 3x a week and take oral mag tab twice daily and have no problems at all, it helps so much.
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That was my main symptom also! My twitching is intense at night when I lay down. It makes my whole body jump right off the bed. It feels like someone is kicking me right in the spine and it makes me arch my back. Totally uncontrollable and annoying! I take 1000 mg of MAG-OX daily and my twitching has been alot better except for at night.
Also I have hyper sensitive reflexes. A normal reflex when tapped on the knee by a doctor your leg will fly out just a bit, however; in alot of Lyme patients their leg will overextend and go flying way up in the air.
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