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char
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Hi,

My son, who is 12, has gained a lot of wieght recently and has puffy hands and fingers (endema).

I just read that these can be symptoms of adrenal problems. How is that treated for people with lyme and kids with lyme?

Char

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My kids have been seen by an endocrinologist. Jake's testing was normal but Jordan continues to see his endocrinologist.

They tested their endocrine system not just the adrenals.

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My son had residual adrenal problems after his year of lyme treatment. We went to a local MD/acupuncturist/herbalist. He performed some testing and determined adrenal problems as well.

Essentially, the adrenals get into a heightened state with a long-term illness like lyme and never really go back into relaxed mode.

Following is what he prescribed for my teenager. Please note, my son was about 155 pounds at the time so you may want to adjust accordingly. Additionally, this regimen cleared his adrenal problems in about ten days, it worked very well.

P-day doses
400mg magnesium
normal dose pantothenic acid
normal dose B-complex
normal dose Omega 3
normal dose Vitamin E
Vitamin C [bowel tolerable dose 10,000-12,000mg p-day]

He also stated that yeast may be the culprit and recommended a good probiotic along with freeze-dried garlic capsules immediately after meals.

Good luck.

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This is one of the contributing factors:

"Acetylcholine signals the (alleged) sodium pump in our bodies, and turns the electrical current ON; choline turns it OFF."

Bb needs our choline.

So...low choline = sodium pump is ON when it should be off/should be controlled by acetylcholine instead.

With metabolic acidosis...too many hydrogens IN the cells...in goes sodium (Na) 3:1. Edema.

Major antioxidant problem. This is where the vitamin E comes in. The antioxidants...all of them...as well as the antioxidant enzymes can help.

Now...research the HPA axis and find what nutrient will help to restore it. This is the "communication" between the hypothalamus, the pituitary and adrenal glands. They signal one another. Stress...mental or physical... causes cortisol to go up, then drop as adrenal exhaustion happens.

Only ONE nutrient (supplement) contains acetylcholine.

Bb takes from us the nutrients we need to make acetylcholine (it can't break it down) and it blocks acetylcholine release.

Bb follows both the glycolysis and cholesterol pathways. We make ATP using sugar or oxygen. We make a LOT more ATP using oxygen, but Bb has us stuck in the glycolysis pathway via an enzyme called PFK. We need to INactivate that enzyme. It is using our sugar...fermenting it...to make its own ATP. The end products are harmful, esp. ethanol...if vitamin E is deficient.

The ongoing high sugar level triggers acidic insulin = glycogen into fat storage.

This is a fairly easy to understand website:

http://www.biosbcc.net/barron/physiology/endo/panc.htm

Bb wants our zinc and cholesterol to make its cell walls. This combo. is VERY acidic. This is the "toxin". Bb causes our liver to keep pumping out VLDL->LDL cholesterol. Without enough choline and phosphorus = fatty liver ultimately. This only shows up on a liver ultrasound.

We need to INactivate another enzyme, called HMG CoA reductase to shut off cholesterol production in the liver. (We do/will get cholesterol from foods, since we must have some, not excess.)

Lecithin contains choline and phosphorus. It is what makes chocolate "smooth". It is a fat emulsifier.

We have to put the brakes on the glycolysis and cholesterol pathways simultaneously.

Hitting this from the glycolysis pathway alone helps, but doesn't cure. Hitting it from the cholesterol pathway looks to be more effective.

We want to prevent the zinc+cholesterol cell wall formation. This weakens the bacteria. This is what antibiotics are supposed to do...damage the cell wall or prevent its formation.

Bb has a UNIQUE cell wall! Only mycoplasm have cholesterol in their cell membrane (they don't have cell walls). ALL other pathogens have a LPS outer cell wall (think: sugar).

Once the cell wall is no longer there, other factors come into play to "finish the job". See my post about how to lyse a gram negative pathogen.

We need to prevent Bb from going into a cyst formation. This prolongs the disease.

We are supposed to be slightly alkaline.

Watch closely your son's blood sugar level and pH levels. Learn how to monitor them and adjust accordingly.

He may be hypoglycemic and you may need to focus on the complex carbs, not sugars, to prevent this. Complex carbs do not cause an insulin SPIKE...this is what we need to avoid.

If his pH is too low...this is when he needs extra minerals...we know that the body chose Mg from the outset to fight. Since we DO absorb things thru our skin...a nice 20 minute epsom salt+baking soda bath may help.

If your son is on antibiotics, it is absolutely CRITICAL that he take good probiotics one hour before meals with a full glass of water. The water will help dilute the stomach acids so they don't destroy the beneficial bacteria and the hour will allow them time to reach the intestine where they help us to absorb and MAKE many nutrients for us.

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Foggy
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I have adrenal insufficiency and it needed 2 ACTH tests to identify the problem.

A low dose of Cortef has helped the fluid issues. Took a few months to regulate itself.

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