Topic: Probiotics - acidophilus - with or without food?
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Hi everyone,
I have done numerous yeast cleanses with ND's years ago, and always had taken the probiotics on an empty stomach.
Since being in lyme treatment, I have tried various probiotics, and have found one to work well, but am wondering if it should be taken on an empty stomach by myself, instead of taking it with food like the bottle says. There is different opinions on this, what are all of yours.
The bottle says to take it with food, and I now see that most probiotics say to take it with food, where as years ago, say about 12 years ago, all my ND's had me taking the probiotics on an empty stomach. I had tremendous success years ago battling yeast with the ND's.
I am going to try this tomm, taking the probiotic on an empty stomach, see if it works better.
How does everyone take their's?
Trish
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Marnie
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Nutritionist told me...
One hour before a meal with a full glass of water.
The stomach acids are so strong, they will knock off some of the good guys...thus have to dilute the stomach with water.
The timing...allows them to reach their destination so they can set up "housekeeping".
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I just like to how things work. Any answers would appreciated.
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Jill E.
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The Lyme naturopath I used to see told me to take them at least 30 minutes before food. That's what I've been doing and I've had minimal yeast issues during my two years of antibiotics.
I also use Saccharomyces boulardii in addition to probiotics, but I take them at different times. The s. boulardii can also help reduce/prevent yeast, but I'm taking it mainly to try to prevent a C. Diff. infection which can happen on antibiotics - a friend of mine had that happen even before she got Lyme so it made me more aware of the issue.
Take care, Jill
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5dana8
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The pro-biotic pearls say they can be taken with meals because they bi-pass the stomach acid and are supposed to deliver to the intestines. Something to do with how the round pills are coated.
I have always taken my pro-biotics on an empty stomach. Because when you eat there is alot of stomach acid & bile released that can kill the deilcate organisms that are the pro-biotics.
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I loved the convenience of those little pearls, but my thyroid seemed to swell with them. As I recall they have seaweed or something else with a lot of iodine that could be the explanation.
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1. I take a probiotic last thing at night before I go to bed. This gives it no competition for several hours and has helped my morning fog a bit. 2. I take a few different kinds of probiotic and switch my main one with another one so that my body doesn't get used to just the one. It's really helped me. 3. If I am having a late afternoon energy crash, I take a probiotic about 2 hours before my aftyernoon crashes have been happening.
Alison
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And, of course, by "two" I mean "three". LOLOL It's the new Lyme math.
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Aniek
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I was told to take with food, but more important to take 2 hours away from abx. Honestly, I take them when I have a chance in the afternoon (between abx and chlorella) and always before bed.
I alos recently discovered a product called Candida QuickCleanse by Zand. It's supposed to help kill the yeast and make a better environment for the probiotics to take root.
I had bad heartburn for the first week and cut back a bit. Now it's my first time in many months with no thrush at all on my tongue. So I'm thinking it works.
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Marnie
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Our stomach is very, very acidic...to digest, breakdown, foods. In fact our stomach is so acidic that the cells are replaced
DAILY!!!
Now...it makes NO sense to take beneficial bacteria at the same time as food.
BECAUSE...
When food hits the stomach, this triggers the release of ADDITIONAL acids.
Acids destroy bacteria...good and bad.
It takes about 2 hours for food to leave our stomach and enter the intestines.
Remember waiting to go into the swimming pool after eating (old wive's tale)?..oh, oh...I'm dating myself...
Anyway...dilute the stomach acids with water. Take the probiotics with a full glass of water. Then wait until they reach the spot where they are supposed to be...the intestines. Then "feed" them ie., eat a meal.
Logical.
Now...of course the gelatin capsule kind help protect the "better" probiotics and of course the really good ones are in the refrig. section of health food stores. And of course...not all are created equal.
Oh how I wish OUR yougart was as tasty as that made in Germany! It is absolutely delicious...very, very different from "Dannon".
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On a somewhat off topic subject, I know *exactly* what you mean about the German yogurt. Every time I eat yogurt here, it is like a joke, compared to the REAL yogurt over there.
Last week I discovered my mom's old yogurtmaker, and started making my own yogurt, determined to re-create the Fantastic Amazing German Yogurt.
So far, I am getting close, but still refining. I just discovered that there is this special yogurt starter that I can order that is meant to make "European" style yogurt so we shall see if it indeed does, but it's a longer more complicated process.
Anyway. I just wanted to write back and say I know exactly what you mean, I miss it too, soooooo much!!!!!
Alison
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Aniek
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Marnie,
There is disagreement about whether the refrigerated are best. Many believe the probiotic pearls, that are enteric coated and don't require refrigeration, are better.
Also, the enteric coating fights the digestive enzymes much better than a gelatin capsule.
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