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Jellybelly
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I am lookong into a product that is loaded with herbs. Good friends swear by this stuff. I have had some serious arrythmias and would like to know if any of these herbs have a stimulating effect like caffeine or Sudafed, both of these I avoid. Otherwise, I want to give this stuff a try.

Here is the ingredients:

Alfalfa Herb (Medicago sativa L.)
Acts on the cardiovascular, nervous, and digestive systems. Used to stimulate appetite, increase peristaltic action of the stomach and bowels. It is highly nutrient dense and rich in important minerals.

Angelica Root (Angelica archangelica L.)
Is effective for appetite loss, digestive ailments, urinary systems and gastrointestinal tract spasm. It is considered to have antibiotic, analgesic, diaphoretic and expectorant properties. It is used to treat menstrual conditions and helps maintain a woman's health and well being during and after menopause. It also serves as a blood mover and has immune system enhancing properties.

Celery Seed (Apium graveolens L.)
Used as a diuretic, for blood purification, for regulating elimination of the bowels, for glandular stimulation, pneumatic complaints. Celery Seed is also used for weight loss due to malnutrition, for loss of appetite, exhaustion, and as a prophylactic for nerves.

Chamomile, German (Matricaria Chamomilla)
Is a carminative, used to treat flatulent nervous dyspepsia, nasal catarrh and nervous diarrhea. Chamomile is effective for gastrointestinal spasms and inflammatory diseases of the gastrointestinal tract. It has antiphlogistic and antispasmodic effects. Naturally promotes relaxation and acts as a reinforcement for stress.

Dandelion Root (Taraxacum officinale L.)
Promotes a healthy liver. Improves function of the pancreas, spleen, stomach, gallbladder and kidneys. It is used for disturbances in bile flow, as a diuretic, for loss of appetite, and dyspeptic problems. It acts as a blood purifier by straining and filtering toxins and wastes from the bloodstream.

Gentian Root (Gentiana lutea L.)
Used for digestive disorders, such as loss of appetite, fullness, and flatulence and dyspepsic complaints. Good for liver and spleen function.

Hops Flower (Humulus lupulus L.)
Naturally promotes relaxation and exerts calming effects, thereby inducing rest. Effective for treating sleep disorders, nervous conditions, anxiety and mood problems. Also, good for pain, stress, circulation and muscle cramps.

Horehound Herb (Marrubium vulgare L.)
Used for dyspepsia, loss of appetite, bloating and flatulence, liver and gallbladder complaints. It has long been noted for its efficiency in the lung.

Horsetail Herb (Equisetum arvense L.)
Strengthens bones, connective tissue, hair, nails and teeth. Increases calcium absorption. Used for post-traumatic and static edema.

Licorice Root (Glycyrrhiza glabra L.)
Effective for blood purification and detoxification, circulation, fatique, weight loss, environmental related conditions, thyroid and mental alertness. Also has soothing benefits for the stomach, digestive tract and as an antioxidant.

Mallow Herb (Malva rotundifolia L.)
Used for the inflammation and ulceration of the digestive tract, hiatal hernia, excess mucus, asthma, urinary tract infections, irritating coughs. Digestive system stimulator. Has a soothing effect on inflammation and irritation of the alimentary canal and of the urinary and respiratory organs.

Malva Flower (Malva moshata L.)
Used for the respiratory tract and the gastrointestinal tract. A mucilaginous herb that is an expectorant, soothes irritated tissues in the throat and chest and reduces inflammation. Has a calming effect on the body.

Passion Flower Herb (Passiflora incarnata L.)
Used for the treatment of nervous anxiety, stress, sleep disorders and neuralgia. The anti-spasmodic, anxiolytic, sedative and mood elevation qualities have value.

Peppermint Herb (Mentha piperita L.)
Used internally for cramps of the upper gastrointestinal tract and bile ducts, irritated colon, catarrh of the respiratory tract and loss of appetite. Aids the liver and assists circulation at the capillary level.

Quassia Wood (Quassia amara L.)
Recommended to treat the formation of acid substances during digestion. Improves appetite, aids stomach and digestion. Used to help relieve irregularities (diarrhea or constipation), bloating, low energy levels and menstrual difficulties. Also aids sinus infections and certain types of eczema.

Sarsaparilla Root (Sarsaparillae radix L.)
Known as a blood purifier that facilitates the removal of wastes from the blood, either by promoting better circulation, or improving liver and kidney. Used as a diuretic and dysphonic.

Saw Palmetto Berry (Serenoa serrulata L.)
Supports prostate health and ``well being''. Maintains proper urinary function. Considered an expectorant, sedative and diuretic.

Thyme Leaf (Thymus vulgaris L.)
Effective for symptoms of congestion of the upper respiratory tract. Acts as a bronchial antispasmodic, expectorant, and carminative.

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Jelly...I would PM Jimbo or GiGi,Their the "Herb-heads" in this neiborhood.
One of the better sorces for herbs is Rain-tree.com.
Not only do they practice sustainable gathering,they publish their plant-research finding so that pharmasudical Companys cant patent plant-chemicals and the profits from harvesting are much more likely to go to the local tribes. Alan [Cool]

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I posted on your other thread about this, too --

I'm by *no means* a master of herbs, nor am I a doctor, but (if I weren't already doing a heavy herbs/supps protocol) I wouldn't hesitate to give this a try! There are a lot of great herbs in there that are beneficial to support of the body as a whole.... the only real problem with doing an "all in one" product like this is that if you have an adverse effect from it, you don't know which of the herbs is causing the problem. If you are taking the herbs separately, you can experiment with them and figure it out by process of elimination.

Experts: feel free to disagree with me or point out errors in my thinking -- I'm flying by the seat of my pants on this whole herbal/supps business!

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robi
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I think it would be a good idea to consult a trained herbologist or chinese medicine practitioner. There are many herbs in the formulation. Some may be good for YOURr condition , some may not be. Also, what we have to remember is that the answer is not the sme for all. May be a great product for me but make you severely ill.

You need to work woth someone that knows YOUR body and is an expert in herbs.

JMHO,
robi

PS Dr. K in NM .... should know about this

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You do NOT state WHY you want to take these herbs, nor do you state WHAT you are on already. EVERYTHING has to work together and what might be good for some diseases and symptoms may NOT be good for another.

I agree with minimonkey, that it is difficult to tell WHAT is doing WHAT when you get a complex drug.

I steer away as much as possible on the complexes, myself.

ALSO NONE of these are on Buhner's Protocols, except for the Sarsaparilla, so I personally would stay away from them. HE is the Master Herbalist, and has researched and studied much more than anyone on this board has, so I have found it is BEST to stick to what HE says at least for the most part.

Are you using Buhner's Protocol?

IF not WHY not?

Hope this helps at least a little for you.
Jim [Cool]

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Jellybelly
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Thanks for your thoughts. I think Mini's point is very valid, and that will weigh heavily in my decision.

I'm not on Buhner's......WHY? I never looked into it. I haven't ever really used herbs.......WHY? Because I am already in such a high state of remission.

I still have a few kinks to work out, and maybe I should consider herbs for that last 1-2 punch. Geesh, I've tried so much other stuff, why not herbs? My arsenal is pretty big, but I don't have any herbs yet.

Thanks Robi for the idea about Dr. K. I'll try to track down his email and send him a copy of this to see what he thinks.

Any other opinions would still be appreciated.

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A combo of herbs can be great and can be bad and not suitable for you. Synergy plays a role with everything we put into our body.

Licorice for instance is also used to raise low blood pressure. I would never know why this is not taken into consideration when combined with other herbs and I would not want to guess.

I treated most of my Lyme etc. with herbal/plant products. But I would not dare to do that on my own, but only with someone who has extensive training.

Take care.

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seibertneurolyme
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Don't know the doses of any of these herbs. Hubby has probably taken at least 75% of these herbs in differing amounts for one reason or another in the last 5 years.

As GiGi pointed out, licorice can raise blood pressure with large doses, but it is also commonly used as an herbal for stomach ulcers.

In small doses, I would not have a problem trying this combo and seeing what happens. The majority of the herbs on the list improve G.I. function or act as extrememly mild sedatives and nothing is really toxic or extremely potent. Don't think anything on the list would have much effect on killing any bacteria or viruses. This is more in the lines of an herbal tonic for strengthening the body.

This is my opinion and not medical advice. Let us know if you try it what results you get.

Bea Seibert

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