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Robin123
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I have seen this topic mentioned in a couple posts.

First, the question as to whether they are considered a vector for Lyme/co's. I hope not. Has anyone heard anything?

Second, a post tonite mentioned someone suffering from them. I found a nontoxic way to get rid of them. The product is called TKO Orange. It's a concentrate made from d'limonene, an organic chemical in the peel of an orange. It's how the orange protects itself against bugs. TKO Orange kills bugs on contact.

You put a little bit of the concentrate in a spray bottle, fill it up with water, then spray your premises and let it air out for about one half hour. Should not be used if there are any cats in household.

I am extremely chemically sensitive, and I "pass" this. You can spray around the perimeter of your bed and they will not come near you.

Catch: this is biodegradable and you need to do it every 24 hours. But better than getting bitten.

The national number is: 1-800-484-9969. Different prices for different amounts. One bottle lasts a long time. Good to share with others if it's a group situation that's being affected.

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MariaA
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oh my GOd, do we now have bedbugs in SF too??? I knew they're in New York, but...

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Beverly
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Yes, Bedbugs can transmit diseases.

I had a nasty encounter with them at a hotel in New York, we had to leave at 2:00 in the morning and find another hotel. They look like ticks but bigger. [Eek!]

I feel bad for anyone who has them in their home.

It's nice that you are sharing a way to get rid of them. [Wink]

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Beverly
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I wish I had a reference too Cave. [Wink] After our ordeal in New York, I asked my son's LLMD and he said yes, they definitely do.
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Don't forget body louse, which can also reside in the laundry.

The question has to be not if it can happen, it is whether or not the disease can be passed generationally from one bug to its offspring, which will make it much more likely to happen.

A repeat bite from a single insect that has bitten an infected person is recognized as a means of transmission for a large number of diseases.(this is without passing the disease to the bug offspring) But I honestly have not seen reports on bed bugs, but I would not be suprised if it can pass it on from one person to then next as they do bite more than once.

There are also many reports of infestation in even the premium hotels....just what you needed to hear eh..

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There was quite an article on the "TODAY" show a while bacl 6-12 months ago. I posted about it back then. Might be in archives YET.

Just wanted to add to Robins request to spray around the bed,,, the 'biggest' resvoir of bugs they said at that time was behind the headboard. SO if you move the headboard and see some cast off body parts,,,you have them period!!

I would think you could even spray that orange peel stuff right on the sheets unless you are alleric to it. Try spraying on wrist with a bit,,,like perfume,,,if it reacts wash it off with good ole soap and water!!

I would think the underside of the lower part of the bed(like where the springs used to be on beds) would be another hotbed of bug infestation.

Original info I saw said "IF" you have them in your house,,,entirely possible these days,,,you NEED to hire an exterminator to get rid of them with multiple visits by him!!

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Yes, bedbugs have been spreading in the downtown area and have been found in many hotels. Aren't I a great tourist agent?! I bet the hotels have been spraying with pesticides, usually synthetic pyrethrins. I think a strong dose knocks them out for three months.

Cave, thx for input about the insects. The discussion about ticks seems to focus on how much time they're attached as to whether they can transmit. But a mosquito/biting fly etc isn't going to hang on for 36 hours. So transmission could be instant with some insects? I suppose this question probably belongs in a more general post about insect transmission...

Beverly, am curious as to whether you could contact your son's LLMD and ask if he has any further info.

Don, spraying anywhere around the bed will work. But I wouldn't recommend spraying where we would touch the spray. It burns a little when I get it on me and I wash it off. The sheets and bedding can be washed in hot water.

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"yeah--- we know what "not currently known as" means:

There has been almost no research done, subtitled-- If I don't look, I don't find"

Hey Sparky.. that's a keeper!

HA!

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Thx, Cave. I had read about the ketes being in ticks' midguts and all the discussion about how much time it took for them to come up.

In saliva -- well... then why are we even discussing how many hours it takes if it could be instantaneous? Part of the erroneous debate?

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I found this info about bedbugs, with pictures, and an enzyme cleaner that is supposed to kill them.

http://naturalginesis.com/remove_bed_bugs_the__nontoxic_way_.htm


I have no idea if this cleaner is for real.

Carol

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Bedbugs were just discovered at a Hilton or a Hyatt here in Phoenix. It was an opera singer visiting town who found them in her bed.

She is suing the hotel. So..as of this week, they are definitely here!

However, I should say, that when I went to college in northern AZ back in the 70's, I would see mattresses sitting outside the dorm that were infested with the critters.

The news this week said they don't carry diseases...Puhleeeeez. Tell me which parasite/vector does NOT carry some kind of disease??!!!

Kelly

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