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treepatrol
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What kinds of anaerobic bacteria could be a coinfection??

Please site web page or pubmed put link in thanks.

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Or tick borne

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Why are you asking this question?

If a person has symptoms that could be Bb or other anaerobic bacterial infection, abx should work (with the usual caveats).

As I am sure you know, they find a whole bunch of microbes in ticks, some of which don't even have names yet, so it is pretty certain we are getting multiple agents in one tick bite.

Here is one article on this subject. If you hit the related articles, might find more info.

http://tinyurl.com/rnl4j

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quote:
Originally posted by lou:
Why are you asking this question?


As I am sure you know, they find a whole bunch of microbes in ticks, some of which don't even have names yet, so it is pretty certain we are getting multiple agents in one tick bite.

Your second part lou and some other reasons.

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See url I added in edit of my previous post.
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I quickly googled anaerobic infections:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=anaerobic+infections

and found much info, such as:

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic2945.htm
You are in: eMedicine Specialties > Medicine, Ob/Gyn, Psychiatry, and Surgery > Infectious Diseases

(just a portion, it is comprehensive)

Bacteroides Infection
Last Updated: February 18, 2005
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Synonyms and related keywords: anaerobic gram-negative bacilli, AGNB, Bacteroides fragilis, B fragilis, Prevotella species, Porphymonas species, Bacteroides distasonis, B distasonis, Bacteroides ovatus, B ovatus, Bacteroides thetaiotaomicron, B thetaiotaomicron, Bacteroides vulgatus, B vulgatus, Prevotella melaninogenica, P melaninogenica, Prevotella intermedia, P intermedia, Porphyromonas asaccharolytica, P asaccharolytica, Prevotella oralis, P oralis, Prevotella oris, P oris, Prevotella bivia, P bivia, Bacteroides bivia, B bivia, Prevotella disiens, P disiens, Bacteroides disiens, Bacteroides melaninogenicus group, B melaninogenicus group, perirectal abscess, decubitus ulcer, bedsore, bed sore, pressure sore, intra-abdominal abscess, intraabdominal abscess, aspiration pneumonia, lung abscess, chronic otitis media, chronic sinusitis, oral cavity abscess, abscesses around the oral cavity, human bites, paronychia, brain abscesses, osteomyelitis, Bacteroidaceae

(I thought this was interesting):
Because culture results are often not available, many patients are treated EMPIRICALLY.

* Antimicrobial resistance patterns may vary. Some anaerobes have become, or may become, resistant to antimicrobials.

* The B fragilis group is almost uniformly susceptible to metronidazole, carbapenems, chloramphenicol, and combinations of a penicillin and beta-lactamase inhibitors. Resistance to other agents varies.
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(another good overview):

http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/anaerobic_infections.jsp

The anaerobic bacteria that most frequently cause infections are Bacteroides fragilis, Peptostreptococcus, and Clostridium species.

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(another good overview:)

http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec17/ch190/ch190a.html

I cannot get it to cut and paste.....mentions/discusses:
peptococci
peptostreptococci
bacteroides
actinomyces
prevotella
fusobacterium
All are found in normal body flora

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Chlamydia Pneumoniae is a gram negative anaerobic bacteria that has been found to be in the spinal fluid of many patients with MS, and we all know that many patients with MS also have lyme cysts in their spinal fluid.

Treatment for Cpn includes doxy,zith taken together with pulses of flagyl or Tini. Not unlike some lyme treatments.

In my husband's case, I consider Cpn a coinfection of Lyme. Although, the blood work doesn't prove a definitively that one has an ongoing or chronic infection, his Cpn IgG titer was very high at 1:256.

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Thanks [Big Grin]

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Thanks Lou & Northstar keep em comin [woohoo]

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Maybe some info here?
PubMed - Deer Diseases

Bacterial diseases of farmed deer and bison.Mackintosh C, Haigh JC, Griffin F.
AgResearch Invermay, P.O. Box 50034, Mosgiel, New Zealand.

The most important aerobic bacterial diseases of farmed deer and bison include bovine tuberculosis, Johne's disease (paratuberculosis), yersiniosis, leptospirosis, brucellosis, pasteurellosis, anthrax, salmonellosis and colibacillosis.

Anaerobic bacterial infections affecting the same animals include necrobacillosis and a number of clostridial diseases such as tetanus, blackleg, malignant oedema and pulpy kidney.

The relative importance of these diseases will vary throughout the world according to timing and circumstance, but bovine tuberculosis and Johne's disease are likely to present the most significant problems with respect to diagnosis, control, trade in live animals and the establishment of wildlife reservoirs of infection.

The authors summarise the aetiology, the principal species of animal affected, geographical distribution, transmission, clinical signs, pathology, diagnosis, treatment and control of these diseases.

PMID: 11974613 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE


or here?
PubMed-Infections Assoc with Pets
[Infections associated with pets][Article in French]
Geffray L.
Service de medecine interne, Centre hospitalier de Lisieux, France.

INTRODUCTION: Domestic pets can transmit numerous infections, including bacterial, parasitic, fungal, and viral diseases.

This paper reports the epidemiologic, clinical, therapeutic and prophylactic data of these zoonoses.

CURRENT KNOWLEDGE AND KEY POINTS: The routes of transmission are various. Bites and scratches are the most common health hazards and result in localized infections.

Pasteurellosis, various aerobic and anaerobic infections, and cat-scratch disease are predominant. Bites are treated by cleaning the wound, rabies and tetanus prophylaxis, and the appropriate use of antibiotics.

Other infections are transmitted through cutaneous, mucous, digestive or respiratory routes, by direct contact with the pets, excreta, or by arthropods.

The most common are gastrointestinal (campylobacter, salmonella, yersinia, parasites, etc), dermatologic (dermatophytoses, scabies, cutaneous larva migraines, etc.), respiratory (psittacosis, etc.), and multisystemic (toxoplasmosis, toxocariasis, leishmaniosis).

Certain people are at high risk for diverse diseases: small children (toxocariasis, helminthiasis), pregnant women (toxoplasmosis), and immunodeficient patients (cryptosporidiosis, salmonellosis, systemic pasteurellosis).

These infectious diseases can be partly prevented by avoiding contact with diseased animals, and by washing the hands following exposure to pets or pet-derived excreta.

Specific vaccines for humans and pets, as well as worming pets regularly, form an important part of the prevention. Veterinarians must discourage the keeping of wild or exotic animals as pets.

FUTURE PROSPECTS AND PROJECTS: National health survey institutions and new communication systems can improve our knowledge about the real epidemiology of pet-transmitted zoonoses.

PMID: 10573725 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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You got it thank you

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You're welcome!

Glad to be of service! [Big Grin]

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